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    Location: Midwest | i looked up the cliff's notes. in case anyone is interested. Dr. Laura Schlessinger has written another book that deserves a place on the best seller list with six of her other books, such as Ten Stupid Things Women Do to Mess Up Their Lives and Ten Stupid Things Men Do to Mess Up Their Lives. The Proper Care and Feeding of Husbands, from this unmarried man’s perspective, is an excellent manual for women on how to get want they want from men and marriage and, generally, how to be happy. Dr. Laura makes a number of important, practical points, based on her experience in private practice, from advising her radio callers, and from literally hundreds of letters and emails she received from men and women while she was writing the book. Here are the points that struck this writer, together with commentary: 1. Men Need Women, and This Need Gives Women Huge Influence. Dr. Laura states the point as follows: “[M]en are simple creatures who come from a woman, are nurtured and brought up by a woman, and yearn for the continued love, admiration, and approval from a woman.” Women have great power and influence over men, and wives in particular have tremendous power over their husbands. How they use this power essentially controls the relationship, because women are the masters of most relationships and marriages. That’s why Dr. Laura says that she probably won’t write The Proper Care and Feeding of Wives: wives already have most of the power and their marriages depend, for the most part, on them. 2. Women Err in Favoring Children Over Husband. A friend once told this writer that once a woman has children, her husband is relegated to the moral equivalence of a piece of furniture. How sad if this is true in many marriages. Here’s how Dr. Laura puts it: “Once wives became mothers, they had no time to be wives. The men would even compliment their wives on being great mothers, but expressed considerable pain over not being shown love, affection, or sexual interest. The typical reply from a wife challenged with this was ‘I only have time to take care of one person, and our child is that person. I’m just too tired for you.’ This puts fathers in the ugly and uncomfortable position of feeling competitive with and resentful of their children, whom they love so much.” 3. Men and Women Are Different. That men and women are deeply different ought not to be notable, but for the fact that it is so often challenged today. Dr. Laura says that society tries to make both men and women “unisex.” But men are happiest being men, and women are happiest being women, with few exceptions. The differences start to manifest themselves very early. In one study Dr. Laura mentions, a barrier was placed between 1 year-old babies and their mothers. What did the little boys do? They attempted to get around the barrier or knock it down. The little girls? They cried until their mothers’ picked them up. Men tend to respond to things physically, women verbally. In fact, the two sexes are just right for each other. 4. Not Every Thought and Feeling Needs to be Said. Women tend to be so verbal, so expressive, that they can tire out men easily unless they exercise some restraint. Dr. Laura reports that wives generally overwhelm their husbands with communication. “Husbands imagine (so foolishly) that their wives are telling them something they actually need to know because they’re supposed to do something about it. Otherwise, men can’t imagine why the ‘communication’ is happening at all. It confuses them, frustrates them, and their response is to turn off. That’s when they unfairly become labeled insensitive.” Husbands and fiances are not girlfriends or psychologists, and women who want attention should adjust their communication style accordingly when speaking with them. 5. Men Are Not Mind-Readers. Most men are not very intuitive compared to most women. Many women “get caught up in the absurdly romanticized notion that ‘if he loved me, he’d just know what I’m thinking, what I’d like, what he should say.’” If a woman wants her man to do something, she should just ask him plainly, without nagging, and show appreciation when he does it. To act otherwise, as many women do, shows arrogance and lack of respect for the husband’s difference, and it leads to unhappiness in the marriage and in the family. 6. Man Is an Embodied Soul. No, Dr. Laura didn’t put it that way; “embodied soul” is a Catholic concept. But that concept is what underlies her discussion of how important it is to a man that his wife try to keep up her appearance. What does it mean that we are embodied souls? It means that our bodies are integral parts of who we are. We are not just souls. Our bodies are not like clothing that we can take on or off. There was no time during which we had only souls and not bodies, and in eternity as well we will have bodies. It is through our bodies, in fact, that we communicate to our loved ones and to the rest of the world. One thinks of the beautiful line from the old Anglican marriage rite: bride and groom pledge to each other “with my body I thee worship.” It is ironic, but in many cases men–sex-crazed pigs in the minds of many women–actually have a truer understanding of the beauty of the body and the meaning of the marital embrace than their wives do. “Objectification” may come as much or more from the woman’s side as from the husband’s if the woman sees her own body as being separate from rather than an integral part of herself. Dr. Laura writes: “In reading all the letters from men, I was struck by their depth of senstivity about the issue of women’s appearance. It wasn’t an impersonal, animal reaction (as it is with women the men don’t personally know), it was a deeply personal one. The wife’s comfort with and appreciation of her own body and femininity, and her willingness to share that with her husband, actually fed his sense of well-being, his feeling of being loved as a husband and valued as a ‘man.’” 7. Infidelity by Omission. Brides and grooms make a number of vows, not only of sexual fidelity. Marital vows include and imply words like love, honor, protect, and care for. “[W]hen one breaches those vows by neglect, is that also not a form of infidelity? Perhaps we should start looking at the act of intentionally depriving a spouse of legitimate needs as infidelity, too, because it stems from being unfaithful to the intent of the vows.” 8. In the Bedroom. To her credit, Dr. Laura gives due place to the importance for marriage of the marital act: “The bedroom is the foundation of marriage and family.” St. Josemaria Escriva, founder of Opus Dei, that supposedly conservative institution within the Church, put it this way: “The marriage bed is an altar.” Enough said? 9. Women Should Appreciate Men’s Masculinity. Dr. Laura relates a trip she made recently to a swimming pool. A mom and a dad were wading with their infant child. Mom held the child against her chest, cooed to him, and swooped him up and down. She passed the baby to dad. He turned the baby’s face outward and swooshed him forward and up into the air. “Mom equals protection and nurturance. Dad equals autonomy and adventure. It is the perfect balance that helps produce a functional, secure human being.” Too many women, though, act like Alice Kramdens, constantly belitting their husbands, shooting down their aspirations, treating them like children. Dr. Laura writes: “When a wife treats her man like he’s one of her children, when she puts him down or thwarts his need for autonomy, adventure, risk, competition, challenge, and conquest, she ends up with a sullen, unooperative, unloving, hostile lump.” 10. Thou Shalt Not Covet. Dr. Laura contributes a novel (to this writer) and insightful contemporary application of the commandment, “thou shal not covet.” Specifically, she understands it as a rebuke to people who want it all, especially feminists. “Perhaps the feminist notions about women having power if they do it all has obstructed too many women’s ability to realize that in real life we all make choices, and that the true joy and meaning of life is not in how many things we have or do, but in the sacrifice and commitment we make to others within the context of the choices we’ve made. The Tenth Commandment, about coveting, reminds us that none of us can have everything there is nor everything we want. Without enjoying and appreciating our gifts and blessings, we create a hell on earth for ourselves and for those who love us.”
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          Location: Bastrop, Texas | I guess it sounds like most people who have healthy successful marriages may cite a variety of different reasons for their success, but if I had to pick the biggest reason for most of them, it boils down to putting your wife or husband before yourself....and having a partner who does the same thing. So obvious and simple to me, yet so rare in reality. For those of us who have failed in the past, we realize how rare and precious a healthy marriage can be. Traditional "roles" of husbands and wives have value as well as recognizing differences between men and women (Mars/Venus sorta things). I think it's fair to say that a healthy successful marriage is the most important lifetime accomplishment for most people, yet it is one of the most neglected endeavors. | |
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| IDK, something about the phraserubs me the wrong way. No one should be the master of any relationhship. Most of her points I agree with, my husband always came before the kids but we were on the same page parenting so we did not have any conflicts.
As far as a woman wanting it all, I agree, it is hard to do but a man can't want it all either, i.e. a working wife who also takes on all the responsiblitlies of a stay a home mom.
As Hotbear said, kindness and respect, put the other first. Simple gestures go a long way. I recently made an 8 hour round trip drive to pick up a new kitten. My husband offered to go with me just so I could hold and play with the kitty on the way home. I told him no, you are in your truck or stuck in a plane traveling for work all the time, you don't have to spend another day doing that for me, but it made me smile that he was sweet enough to offer.
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     Location: Texas | Marriage is such a strange animal. We're all different and every relationship is different so have a formula for a successful marriage is as real as aliens. For instance, my husband and I are alphas. I NEED an alpha however two alphas is pretty volatile. Most people couldn't handle our type of relationship but for us, we need the other to have that particular personality trait.
Some people that have long marriages have them because they give and take and all that. Others have them b/c neither partner, although possibly unhappy, doesn't have the personality to leave (change is tough) and there are some marriages that still exist because one partner may lack the means to make it alone (no skills to work, etc) yet we throw all of these long lasting marriages into the same "successful" bucket. | |
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| I've read her books. I'm by nature a very selfish person. My husband is not! This book reminds me that I need to take a step back and cherish him for the amazing person he is. I think it's amazing how good I can make him feel with a simple little thing like cooking him his favorite dinner (that I hate) or putting on something pretty even when I want to be a vegetable. Lingerie is just as good for watching movies as baggy t-shirts (who knew???)
It's the little things that make us giggle like little kids together, and they don't happen if I don't get off my high horse or whatever it is I'm riding around and tell him how great he is.
Sometimes me just saying, "I'm so sorry babe, today was hard and I'm being a *****. It's not your fault." or "Oh my God! You're making me crazy and it's your fault because ..... Can you please find a 60 foot perimeter immediately!!!!!" let's him know immediately whats up so he can decide what's next. Or honestly, he wouldn't have a clue and would be resentful of me.
I think Laura is trying to convince women that they're not too good to treat a good man well. She makes no allowances for the scummy men out there, saying that no woman should put up with that, BUT she has no sympathy for a woman that stays and makes the conscious decision to stay. I like her and am thankful for somebody pointing out that there are two people in my marriage!!
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Hungarian Midget Woman
    Location: Midwest | I don't disagree with most of the points in the article. Can't say anything about the book because I haven't read it.
Her advice is not bad overall, but I just can't stand her personality. She's annoying. lol | |
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          Location: 100 miles from Nowhere, AR | IMO, the Love Languages book is more useful. I haven't read it myself, but people close to me have and I've heard enough to recognize that it resonates. Being aware that my husband sees acts of service as love has helped me several times over the years. When he gets mad at me, a little mattress dancing, or cooking something he likes and he's happy again.
btw, the part in the article posted above about women putting the kids first and being too tired to be a wife? When you have a newborn, this is true and there's no way around it. The most challenging time in our marriage was when I was extremely ill and then recovering from major surgery while caring for a 3 year old and a newborn and dealing with some horrendous things happening to how I looked at the same time (brain surgery and severed facial nerves are not conducive to looking very attractive). My husband felt neglected and thought I didn't love him, but it was all I could do to survive at that point, so he had to get over it.  | |
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        Location: Broxton, Ga | HotbearLVR - 2014-01-08 9:27 AM I guess it sounds like most people who have healthy successful marriages may cite a variety of different reasons for their success, but if I had to pick the biggest reason for most of them, it boils down to putting your wife or husband before yourself....and having a partner who does the same thing. So obvious and simple to me, yet so rare in reality.
For those of us who have failed in the past, we realize how rare and precious a healthy marriage can be. Traditional "roles" of husbands and wives have value as well as recognizing differences between men and women (Mars/Venus sorta things). I think it's fair to say that a healthy successful marriage is the most important lifetime accomplishment for most people, yet it is one of the most neglected endeavors.
Very true...........I have had one of the worst marriges........and now the best.........1D all the way......which at one time I did not think was possible after my 1st..........and yes it is rare.........and yes it does boil down to putting yourself before you wife or husband..........most cannot do that........... | |
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        Location: Iowa, LA | bocephus's mama - 2014-01-09 8:47 AM Marriage is such a strange animal. We're all different and every relationship is different so have a formula for a successful marriage is as real as aliens. For instance, my husband and I are alphas. I NEED an alpha however two alphas is pretty volatile. Most people couldn't handle our type of relationship but for us, we need the other to have that particular personality trait.
Some people that have long marriages have them because they give and take and all that. Others have them b/c neither partner, although possibly unhappy, doesn't have the personality to leave (change is tough) and there are some marriages that still exist because one partner may lack the means to make it alone (no skills to work, etc) yet we throw all of these long lasting marriages into the same "successful" bucket.
I like your comment. Marriage and men has always been a big source of hatred for me. I grew up watching my parents making marriage look like the worst thing that can happen to two people. I have read this book years ago and what I remembered about it was to try to make your man feel like the "man" in the relationship. I am alpha in my relationships....I do what I want, and if they don't like it, "pack your ****". I never wanted to "need" a man because of what I witnessed and saw growing up. Honestly, I am happiest living seperate, but in a relationship. I begin to have panic attacks once a man asks for commitment and marriage. After counseling I learned to give in a little more and take more chances. This is the longest I've ever been married (2 years! LOL) and it is extremely difficult for me. Financially I do not need a man and never have. I have never wanted to have kids because of what I went through growing up. I always felt that kids were such an awesome, serious responsibility and did not want their happiness dependant on me. So, I have never "stayed" for the children. One day I went to see my counselor and just flat out asked, "How the hell do people stay married?!?". What I got, was a very real response. She told me that, honestly, most people stay becasue of the children or for financial reasons. They just tough it out. Then, my cousin told me basically she was still married for the same reason (for her financial) and from the outside this woman looks to have the perfect marriage. I never realized how unhappy she was. It made me feel better about all of my failed relationships. I've always felt so different than everyone else. Never had a desire to get married/have kids. Marriage is work.....PERIOD. No easy way about it. And I still have no idea how to have a successful marriage. At this point I feel like it's more about forgiving and moving on from each other's imperfections and communicating your feelings as often as possible. I am probably every mans worst nightmare! LOL | |
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| Honestly, I absolutely LOVED the book. I grew up in a pretty dysfunctional family with a mom who was divorced twice, and pretty much a man hater. I grew up with the "anything 'he' can do, I can do better" attitude, and always felt a need to prove myself... she made me feel like if I couldn't keep up with the man, I was less of a woman. To this day, my mom gives me a hard time that I dont do all the "man stuff" (oil changes, plowing snow, etc), and that I have become "Suzy home maker". What the book taught me was that these roles are actually GOOD for our marriage. By cooking and cleaning, taking care of him, greeting him with a smile when he get home etc. Im showing him love and respect in a way that he understands. By *letting* him do the "man jobs" in the shop and around the farm, Im allowing him to be a man, and showing him that I need him. My mom makes fun of me for this, but at the end of the day, she has 2 failed marriages, and we are almost 3 years into a great marriage, in which we very rarely argue, let alone fight. We respect each others roles, and honestly, I can see a distinct difference if I greet him with a smile, jeans on, and looking half decent while the smell of supper fills the air, as opposed to waiting for him to come into the house as I sit on the couch in sweats, and tell him to make a sandwich if he wants to eat. Of course Dr. Laura's ways may not work for everyone, but hubby and I have listened to her show a lot while rodeoing, and we really agree on most of what she has to say. I think we would both agree that its helped our marriage become even stronger. | |
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          Location: Kentucky | I don't think there are "man" jobs or "woman" jobs in a marriage. They're just jobs. I know how to change the oil in my car, help my husband lay down tile in the bathroom, and he knows how to cook and do laundry. It's all just crap that needs to be done. I have not, nor will I ever be, the traditional wife. There's too much stuff to do around our house to designate things like that. I don't let my husband be a "man" and he doesnt let me be a "woman" because we aren't concerned with that. I don't need to stroke his ego every time he lifts something heavy for me, just like he doesn't need to jump up and down that I folded his clothes. I just don't understand why we have to define ourselves in that way, but I guess with other comments, every relationship is different... thank goodness! | |
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          Location: Bastrop, Texas | Good thread. I'm just an observer! This made me think of one of my favorite scenes in "City Slickers", one of my favorite movies:
"Curly: Do you know what the secret of life is? [holds up one finger] Curly: This. Mitch: Your finger? Curly: One thing. Just one thing. You stick to that and the rest don't mean sh!t. Mitch: But, what is the one thing? Curly: [smiles] That's what *you* have to find out.
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    Location: Midwest | OMG, I love that movie. And the second one.
BTW, Billy Crystal was given the black horse he rode in the movie :) HORSEBACK RIDING January 31, 2011 America’s Horse remembers two famous Quarter Horse stars.By Becky Newell for America’s Horse  In honor of that year's big film "Dances With Wolves," Billy Crystal rides Beechnut across the stage of the 63rd Annual Academy Awards. Photo courtesy of Academy Motion Picture Arts and Sciences. Beechnut Nicknamed after a brand of chewing tobacco, Charlies Surprise grew up as a ranchhorse who was used for ropingand gathering cattle. With all that exposure to obstacles and “boogers,” it was no surprise that the calm, cool and collected Beechnut found his way to working on movie sets, one of which was “City Slickers.” The set of “City Slickers” is where actor Billy Crystal met “Beechie.” A man who says he can’t and won’t have animals because he’s never home, Billy says he and the black gelding started an “on-location romance.” Because of the connection the pair made, movie wrangler Jack Lilley gave Beechnut to Billy after filming was done. Then with Beechnut’s blaze disguised, he and Billy worked together again in “City Slickers II.” There are many benefits that come with being a member of the American Quarter Horse Association. Learn how you can get discounts with AQHA corporate partners, show at official AQHA events, enroll in horseback riding programs and receive America’s Horse magazine by becoming anAQHA member. The only other appearance the two actors made together was when Billy rode Beechie onto the stage of the 63rd Academy Awards show in 1991 in honor of that year’s big winner, “Dances With Wolves.” Billy says they didn’t even have to rehearse Beechie’s appearance. “I had his handler walk alongside us,” Billy says. “But nothing bothered Beechie.” After that, Beechnut was retired to a stable where Billy could visit and ride him. When Beechie became too old for Billy to ride, the actor would just take a book and lie in Beechie’s pasture and read.
http://americashorsedaily.com/fallen-stars/#more-21885
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| This is kind of a sore subject with me. I don't care for Dr. Laura generally speaking, I have heard some advice of hers that was good after all nobody is wrong ALL of the time.
I am a giver by nature and that is also the way I was raised, give all to the people you love. Well that works if the person you are giving to, gives back, otherwise you wind up wrung out, dried up and resentful. My husband is a good man but he is DENSE when it comes to women. I learned a long time ago, when you communicate with a man to keep your sentences short, succinct and to ask for what you need up front. It goes in one ear and out the other sometimes, I swear sometimes I can almost SEE the words coming out the other side of his head! I have threatened many times to send him off to a trainer LOL
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          Location: Washington | I personally think if a marriage is a working two way street most will survive.
In our house we are allowed to be individuals but we treat the marriage as one too. It has it's own needs. I am a very strong woman, and my husband likes that about me, but he also needs to be needed. Never hurt me to have him do things for me that I could do for myself. Everyone needs to be needed.
We all have witnessed the failure of marriage. In my case the ones that failed where when they tried to change each other. Never understood that and still don't. I am and was pretty hard on my friends when they say things like "He will never change." WHY do they need to change? If you let the stupid little crap drive you nuts, I would hate to see you when the serious stuff hit the fan. Get over yourself.
My take on marriage has always been simple.... be responsible for your own happiness, be each others best friend, and treat each other the way you would want to be treated. The rest will fall into place.
I use to listen to Dr. Laura, not a lot, and I can say I didn't always agreed with her, but some of her advice was just common sense. IMHO
Going on 34 years of marriage and it's still a work in progress, it's had it's bumps along the way, but I still love the fact I am married to my best friend, and I would do nothing to hurt him, which keeps the marriage moving right along.
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| I've never been in a committed relationship and have never read this book. I agree with some of the points in the short version at the top of the page and disagree with others. All I know is that - when it comes to marriages and commitment - the more I see, the less I like. | |
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          Location: Bastrop, Texas | fatchance - 2014-01-09 10:22 AM I personally think if a marriage is a working two way street most will survive.
In our house we are allowed to be individuals but we treat the marriage as one too. It has it's own needs. I am a very strong woman, and my husband likes that about me, but he also needs to be needed. Never hurt me to have him do things for me that I could do for myself. Everyone needs to be needed.
We all have witnessed the failure of marriage. In my case the ones that failed where when they tried to change each other. Never understood that and still don't. I am and was pretty hard on my friends when they say things like "He will never change." WHY do they need to change? If you let the stupid little crap drive you nuts, I would hate to see you when the serious stuff hit the fan. Get over yourself.
My take on marriage has always been simple.... be responsible for your own happiness, be each others best friend, and treat each other the way you would want to be treated. The rest will fall into place.
I use to listen to Dr. Laura, not a lot, and I can say I didn't always agreed with her, but some of her advice was just common sense. IMHO
Going on 34 years of marriage and it's still a work in progress, it's had it's bumps along the way, but I still love the fact I am married to my best friend, and I would do nothing to hurt him, which keeps the marriage moving right along.
Hope this made sense to some of you.
I remember talking to you and your husband. I also remembering think that you both are lucky. | |
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          Location: Bastrop, Texas | barrelracr131 - 2014-01-09 10:08 AM OMG, I love that movie. And the second one.
BTW, Billy Crystal was given the black horse he rode in the movie :)
HORSEBACK RIDING
January 31, 2011
America’s Horse remembers two famous Quarter Horse stars.
By Becky Newell for America’s Horse
In honor of that year's big film "Dances With Wolves," Billy Crystal rides Beechnut across the stage of the 63rd Annual Academy Awards. Photo courtesy of Academy Motion Picture Arts and Sciences.
Beechnut
Nicknamed after a brand of chewing tobacco, Charlies Surprise grew up as a ranchhorse who was used for ropingand gathering cattle. With all that exposure to obstacles and “boogers,” it was no surprise that the calm, cool and collected Beechnut found his way to working on movie sets, one of which was “City Slickers.”
The set of “City Slickers” is where actor Billy Crystal met “Beechie.” A man who says he can’t and won’t have animals because he’s never home, Billy says he and the black gelding started an “on-location romance.” Because of the connection the pair made, movie wrangler Jack Lilley gave Beechnut to Billy after filming was done. Then with Beechnut’s blaze disguised, he and Billy worked together again in “City Slickers II.”
There are many benefits that come with being a member of the American Quarter Horse Association. Learn how you can get discounts with AQHA corporate partners, show at official AQHA events, enroll in horseback riding programs and receive America’s Horse magazine by becoming anAQHA member.
The only other appearance the two actors made together was when Billy rode Beechie onto the stage of the 63rd Academy Awards show in 1991 in honor of that year’s big winner, “Dances With Wolves.”
Billy says they didn’t even have to rehearse Beechie’s appearance.
“I had his handler walk alongside us,” Billy says. “But nothing bothered Beechie.”
After that, Beechnut was retired to a stable where Billy could visit and ride him. When Beechie became too old for Billy to ride, the actor would just take a book and lie in Beechie’s pasture and read.
http://americashorsedaily.com/fallen-stars/#more-21885
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| Murphy - 2014-01-09 8:52 AM I don't think there are "man" jobs or "woman" jobs in a marriage. They're just jobs. I know how to change the oil in my car, help my husband lay down tile in the bathroom, and he knows how to cook and do laundry. It's all just crap that needs to be done. I have not, nor will I ever be, the traditional wife. There's too much stuff to do around our house to designate things like that. I don't let my husband be a "man" and he doesnt let me be a "woman" because we aren't concerned with that. I don't need to stroke his ego every time he lifts something heavy for me, just like he doesn't need to jump up and down that I folded his clothes. I just don't understand why we have to define ourselves in that way, but I guess with other comments, every relationship is different... thank goodness!
I *can* do all of that stuff too (trust me, mom made darn sure of that), and my husband can do laundry, and can cook (for himself- no chance Im eating his creations lol). Hubby was off work all of December, and my house has never been so clean as he stepped up and helped me out while he had some spare time. I'll be going on MAT leave in April, and I will likely take over a few of the things he usually does as I will have more spare time than he will, and I'll want him to be able to hang out with his son when he gets home. Having watched my mom work herself into the ground, while being p*ssed at her husband for not helping (when in fact he was trying but partially afraid to lol), I've learned that by doing the same as her, I end up nagging him to do stuff too (nagging was one of mom's worst habits in her marriages). If I get my stuff done in a day, and he gets his stuff done, we meet in the middle and everyone is happy... no nagging or telling each other what needs to be done, just sit down and have supper, and relax knowing that we're not trying to one-up each other.
Its not that I *cant* plow the driveway (I worked as a heavy equipment operator for quite a few years), or that I need to stroke his ego for changing a tire, its just that if I try to do it ALL by myself, Im probably going to turn into a resentful cow to live with. This way, we work as a team... Im not his foreman, and he's not mine. Im not saying that thats how you are, Im saying that thats what I grew up watching, and this is a different path Im taking so my marriage will (hopefully) last. | |
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         Location: High heels in the air... | I read it a long time ago...there are valid points...as a giver in relationships, women need to be able to take too...let him give to you...want to please a man? Let him be a man...I know you can lift that feed sack but why not let him? And complement him for his strength...I know it sounds hokey or stupid but a man needs to know he is valued and hear a complement for a job well done... | |
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