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    Location: Lost with the rest of the MINIONS! | Couldn't hurt to go visit with the teacher about it. Maybe you could both benefit from hearing the other person's perspective. |
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      Location: The Saudia Arabia of Wind Energy, Western Oklahoma | Teachers don't ask for conferences without a good reason because they really aren't that fun. I would rather a teacher say something about a behavior that they feel like is a problem than just to ignore it. I would want to know. |
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       Location: The end of the Earth, SE AR | Wow, its good to hear how many book fanatics are barrel racers and horse people.
A teacher told me in the 4th grade that there was no way I could have read the in-class reading assignment so fast. I said I did and she started questioning me in front of the other kids still reading to try to prove I didn't know and hadn't read the reading assignment. I was singled out for this impromptu oral quiz and it was very embarrassing. It was even more embarrassing when the teacher becaem visibly angry when I answered the questions correctly proving that I did read the material.
So from 4th grade to 50 something, you can see how an experience like the one you son just has can stick with a person the rest of their life. I would suggest a meeting with you and Wes and the teacher and principal. Not just you and teacher because I don't want to have to bail you out of jail.
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      Location: NE Texas | Thistle2011 - 2014-01-14 3:07 PM for the sake of a different point of view: I am the only one in my family that is not a teacher. not saying the teacher is right she very well could be over reacting. I was a child that would do my work...but I would only do it standing... never sitting and I did have a teacher blow things out of proportion about this habit. Anyway teachers have ridiculously high expectations and close to no pay. they teach because they love the children (or at least it starts that way) years ago these expectations for high testing results were not in place and teachers could use there god given skills to help children of many learning styles achieve knowledge (teachers have a very long list of things they are no longer allowed to use as tools in the class room or out of the class room ) so now you have teachers that MUST use a particular teaching style and cram a TON of knowledge into young minds. Along with this parents are more busy than ever both parents working 40+ hours a week and children are not followed up on as much at home is not uncommon. Thus all the responsibility of learning is put on the teachers shoulders when parents used to take a part in this. I would be excited to have a conference instead of getting defensive you should embrace your teacher still has the drive to want to understand you child and come up with way to maybe make things more interesting for him. Teachers and parents need to work together communication is the only way!
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      Location: Beggs, OK | I'm a "reader" and my girls are too....I expect to have conversations like this eventually as well. Savvy is alreay memorizing her big books and reciting them back as if she can actually read them....it's creepy to see a four year old "reading" like that, lol.
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    Location: 31 lengths farms | I was just this kid. I remember one Christmas some one got me a book on barrel racing, it was the first thing I opened. All I remember is opening it, saying thank you and starting to read...apparently I missed the entire rest of the day. I remember coming to the end of it, looking up and it was dark outside, I was the only one out on the porch near the tree. Mom said I said thank you to Colin for the book and they got a few more mumbles out of me the rest of the day, I missed lunch and the annual wiffle ball tournament along with a heated game of UNO. Everyone else had gone home, my younger brother went t stay with a nephew and I hadn't fed the horses yet, LOL!!! I still had about 3 other packages that I hadn't opened sitting next to me. I was 13. |
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      Location: The Saudia Arabia of Wind Energy, Western Oklahoma | I too loved to read but there is a time and a place for it. When someone tells you to do something and you ignore it, then that is a problem. What if a child was ignoring a teacher and it caused them harm? Like walking out in front of a car or something. Getting in the habit of ignoring adults can be very dangerous and is not something I would want my child doing. |
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      Location: Beggs, OK | ksjackofalltrades - 2014-01-14 3:28 PM I too loved to read but there is a time and a place for it. When someone tells you to do something and you ignore it, then that is a problem. What if a child was ignoring a teacher and it caused them harm? Like walking out in front of a car or something. Getting in the habit of ignoring adults can be very dangerous and is not something I would want my child doing.
I meant to include in my post that I agree with your line of thought. You always have to have an open ear and that's a skill that will follow into adulthood. |
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       Location: Haslet, Texas | Go to the meeting. Maybe the teacher wants your input on how to deal with this. Hopefully it will give you the opportunity to talk it out with her about why he is reading. It doesn't sound like it is the first time she has had this issue and that is her fault for not bringing it to your attention sooner. Sounds like she is a little to upset but I would go to the meeting and let my voice be heard. |
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| From the perspective of a mother that has raised two children and been privy the school year's happenings of several, now grown, nieces and nephews, DO NOT ever assume you know the whole story until you've gotten a chance to speak to the teacher personally. Many times I found myself stewing over something that it turned out wasn't told to me "exactly" the way it happened. Of course, there's always that 1% if the time that a teacher is just being a jerk...had a couple of those experiences,too!
Such as the time a teacher gave my son a detention for playing "swords" with rulers with another boy. For days and days AFTER the detention all I heard from my son was, "I did not do it, it's not right. How can a teacher get a way with lying? He was hitting my desk with his ruler" I got so tired of hearing and finally the day the teacher in question was on after-school pick-up duty, I asked her is she saw it happen (assuming the answer was yes). Imagine my surprise when her answer was, "I don't have to see it happen, if I say it happened then I give detentions, I'm the teacher." I knew right then that he was telling the truth. |
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          Location: 100 miles from Nowhere, AR | This particular teacher has a habit of taking things personally and getting emotional. We've had a couple of meetings with her before this over minor issues, including one involving the entire class. IMO, she is better suited to K or 1st instead of 3rd and 4th grade science/social studies/Bible. And I'm totally backing her up to him--he has to respect her and learn to deal with the real world. I'm not saying he shouldn't get in trouble. But she wrote me a very detailed note, and when I questioned him, everything matched except he said he didn't ignore her on purpose. Which I believe. Not only because I know him (and myself!) but because he was in tears over being misunderstood. He's a mischievous little turd--he's used to getting in trouble and deserving it. But I can't understand why THIS is a big deal. His other teacher is more of a no-nonsense type and she does fine with him. She handles him without getting her panties in a wad. LOL. I'm just baffled that she's upset and apparently expects me to be upset too. |
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       Location: North Dakota | I can't say that I ever got in trouble, but I did feel embarrased a lot in school! From the fact that when I read, I READ. And I am oblivious to everything around me. I distinctly remember many times in elementary school where I would look up, and everyone in my class is lined up at the door and looking at me. Whoops. I was so into my book that I didn't notice what was going on around me.
I too was a "smart kid" where I would finish my work well ahead of everyone. So I'd read to keep myself occupied.
All of my teachers were nothing but encouraging about it though. I'm very baffled as to why your child's teacher is so angry about it. I think a meeting with her and the principle should set things straight.
I sure wouldn't punish my child for being a GOOD KID and reading to himself while he was waiting for the other kids to finish. |
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          Location: 100 miles from Nowhere, AR | ksjackofalltrades - 2014-01-14 3:28 PM
I too loved to read but there is a time and a place for it.Β When someone tells youΒ to do something and you ignore it, then that is a problem.Β What ifΒ a child was ignoring a teacher and it caused them harm?Β Like walking out in frontΒ of a car or something.Β Β Getting in the habit of ignoring adults can be very dangerous and is not something I would want my child doing.Β Β
Speaking for myself, it's not ignoring it's that I don't hear. When I'm visually engaged, I can tune everything out without trying. This is good and bad. And I agree, he needs to learn to do better. Not going to dispute that. But it's not worth getting mad at him or overly concerned about IMO--like I said, get after his ass and move on. But that's why I posted, to get other opinions. |
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| Three 4 Luck - 2014-01-14 4:58 PM ksjackofalltrades - 2014-01-14 3:28 PM I too loved to read but there is a time and a place for it. When someone tells you to do something and you ignore it, then that is a problem. What if a child was ignoring a teacher and it caused them harm? Like walking out in front of a car or something. Getting in the habit of ignoring adults can be very dangerous and is not something I would want my child doing. Speaking for myself, it's not ignoring it's that I don't hear. When I'm visually engaged, I can tune everything out without trying. This is good and bad.  And I agree, he needs to learn to do better. Not going to dispute that. But it's not worth getting mad at him or overly concerned about IMO--like I said, get after his ass and move on. But that's why I posted, to get other opinions.
i am with you i get engrossed in a good book the world is zoned out. thats what a book is supposed to do reach out and grab you just don/t hear
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          Location: 100 miles from Nowhere, AR | Just Bring It - 2014-01-14 2:57 PM
This reminds of the kid Brick from the TV show "In The Middle"....lol. His dad is always trying to get him to get his head out of his books and experience the real world.Β
I guess I see the teacher's point of view. Her job is to teach a certain subject and it can be very frustrating when your students are not paying attention. Not only does she have to try to get your kid to pay attention but in doing so she is disrupting the whole classroom by having to stop and get him to pay attention. What if she is teaching something and then goes around asking the students questions and when she gets to your child who is deep into his book that she has to not only ask him more than once butΒ how can she expect him to have any knowledgeable answer if he was not paying attention. Of course reading is a good thing but it has its place. I find it disrespectful for a child to be doing something else while the teacher is trying to teach. I don't think reading a book is any different than playing a video game in class if it has nothing to do with what the teacher is trying to teach.
I put on a few small clinics and I find it very frustrating when some of the kids are not paying attention because I know when it comes to asking them all to do what I was explaining they will not have a clue and I will have to spend extra time with them. But they are paying me to learn what I have to say so either they listen and actually learn or they waste their money...their choice.
Go have the conference and listen to what the teacher has to say. Try to see her point of view. Reading is a good thing and should not be discouraged when done at an appropriate time. I can't imagine your place of work would be fine with you reading a book while in a business conference so I don't see a classroom as being much different. He is there to learn what is being taught. That is his job and while it may be hard to be peeled away from his book during that time he will need to learn to do that. It will show respect to his teacher and classmates.
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| Three 4 Luck - 2014-01-14 4:47 PM This particular teacher has a habit of taking things personally and getting emotional. We've had a couple of meetings with her before this over minor issues, including one involving the entire class. IMO, she is better suited to K or 1st instead of 3rd and 4th grade science/social studies/Bible. And I'm totally backing her up to him--he has to respect her and learn to deal with the real world. I'm not saying he shouldn't get in trouble. But she wrote me a very detailed note, and when I questioned him, everything matched except he said he didn't ignore her on purpose. Which I believe. Not only because I know him (and myself!) but because he was in tears over being misunderstood. He's a mischievous little turd--he's used to getting in trouble and deserving it. But I can't understand why THIS is a big deal. His other teacher is more of a no-nonsense type and she does fine with him. She handles him without getting her panties in a wad. LOL. I'm just baffled that she's upset and apparently expects me to be upset too.
I teach 5th-7th grade, STEM (Science, Technology, Engineering, and Math). I totally laughed out loud at the highlighted statement because that sums up a middle school classroom.
When you teach-you have to be okay with a certain level of chaos. You cannot control all things at all times.
You have to take every second that you can to INSPIRE-because we have a VERY influential job.
And for the record-all kids can be turds, but they are fun, loveable, and likeable little turds. The kids are the BEST part about the job.
For fun...I will share this little story. Yesterday, I was trying to send an e-mail while the kids were taking a second to work on some things. I kept hearing a 6th grade boy say...I'm twerking, I'm twerking....it didn't really register at first. Finally the kid came up to my desk and said I am terking Mrs. Klein...talking AND working.
At that point I just had to laugh.
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  Location: TN | I teach 1st grade and I actually had to get after one of my boys yesterday and today about reading his library book in the middle of a lesson. I asked him to put it away and explained that while reading is awesome and I'm so glad he loves his book, he needs to be focused on what we're learning at the moment. I was sweeter yesterday, but today he got the teacher evil eye about it. lol - Still it's no big deal. Like you said, get after him and move on. |
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       Location: Texas! | I agree a sit down with the teacher may shed some light on the other side. There's three sides to every story :) I think teaching has gotten to be a HARD task with what teachers are allowed to do discipline wise and makes it very hard to keep control over some classrooms.
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      Location: Mississippi | The pressures of teaching today are extremely high, especially core curriculum subjects. This teacher can actually be reprimanded for your child being off task in class. With all the hoopla about merit-based pay these days, I am not surprised the teacher is requesting a conference. If your pay depended on a room full of teenagers (or kids) that did not want to be there, you would be worried as well. Honest opinion of a teacher...
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| WYO racer hit it right on the head with her cartoon!!!! |
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