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Location: Weatherford, Texas | I can pick an Impressive bred horse out of a line up as the one I love but after owning one that had the HYPP fit I will never again. I got her for $500 and started her- she was going great then had an episode. I will never do that again- but the papers had her as n/n. So I don't put much stock in the test. |
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| chuckie31 - 2014-01-15 12:01 PM
Can I ask why you steer clear of Impressive bloodlines?
Most people is because of HYPP. |
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Location: So. Cali. | Mighty Broke - 2014-01-15 10:06 AM mruggles - 2014-01-15 1:00 PM i dont have any that im dead set against.........i think sometimes ppl get a mind block, if you took away the papers and just had the horse.....you would get a different result..........
m I have absolutely loved every Beduino horse that I have had, good on trails, ATHLETIC, but it seemed once it was time to ask for that little extra---their mind couldn't handle it. Again, it was probably just that we did not click because I know a lot of people that have had great success with this line. I just hate spending all the time that it takes to get them to the final stage and then to realize it isn't working--so I stay away from them.
I love my Beduinos and this statement is very true about the ones I've had
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Location: Southern OK aka God's Country | FlyingJT - 2014-01-15 11:55 AM
I'm sad to see so many non-hancock people. I love Hancock, Blue Valentine, driftwood Ike horses. I personally love their dispositions, gentle giants! My experience with them is that once they know their job they want to be left alone about it. Show them once and they have it forever. Pick on them and your going to eat dirt.
I agree with steering clear of Impressive lines and I also steer clear of skipper W horses. Not my cup of tea!
I feel the same way! I have read that the Hancock horses got a bad rap because some of the mares Hancock was bred to were buckers and produced buckers, but as we all know, the stud gets the credit--good or bad--for his babies. My Hancock mare is double bred and she is absolutely the sweetest, best-minded horse I've owned, not to mention a big pretty mare. She has never bucked--I'm not saying that she's not capable, because Lord knows she can tear it up in the pasture, but she has never offered to buck with me in all my ignorance. Her only flaw is that she's lazy and so riding her can be a work out. The buckers I've had (and sold) were these bloodlines: Jerrys Disco Moon x Hobby Doc mare and another double bred Doc Bar stud colt that would ride for awhile and then decide to buck you off for no reason other than you were no longer welcome. Both were gorgeous horses, but I am not a fan of getting dumped, so we parted ways. Horses I've heard others complain about are Zevi horses (for being mean), Mr. Eye Opener (for being idiots) and every now and then I'll hear people caution against Frenchmans Guy horses because they're either really good or a dud (but all expensive). But those are strictly hearsay. |
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| Three*C*Champs - 2014-01-15 1:14 PM
Mighty Broke - 2014-01-15 10:06 AM mruggles - 2014-01-15 1:00 PM i dont have any that im dead set against.........i think sometimes ppl get a mind block, if you took away the papers and just had the horse.....you would get a different result..........
m I have absolutely loved every Beduino horse that I have had, good on trails, ATHLETIC, but it seemed once it was time to ask for that little extra---their mind couldn't handle it. Again, it was probably just that we did not click because I know a lot of people that have had great success with this line. I just hate spending all the time that it takes to get them to the final stage and then to realize it isn't working--so I stay away from them.
I have an Ivory James, who obviously goes back to beduino lol. He is talented as heck but definitely takes a quiet hand and totally agree with the last bit of training they sometimes seem to take a few steps back. But he is definitely smart and once you figure out his quirks, he is pretty easy to handle  |
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Location: southeast Texas | Years ago, an Impressive horse, good looking athletic sucker. He was hot and cold. One moment would show you how "dazzling" he was. The next, nope, not gonna work. He didn't want to do anything from trail riding to working cows or running barrels. He did enjoy you brushing him and telling him how beautiful he was, though. |
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| roxieannie - 2014-01-15 12:36 PM
Years ago, an Impressive horse, good looking athletic sucker. He was hot and cold. One moment would show you how "dazzling" he was. The next, nope, not gonna work. He didn't want to do anything from trail riding to working cows or running barrels. He did enjoy you brushing him and telling him how beautiful he was, though.
This has been my experience. Grant it, I've only ever owned one that was impressive bred but he was exactly how you describe. |
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Location: Chehalis, Washington | I dislike music mount horses! |
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Location: Where the stars at night are big and bright, TX | Doc Bar, those with him up closer or more than once, only buckers I've ever had.
And Little Peppy (Peppy San Badger), those who really got his performance cutting gene are so stingy and watchy and reactive, they really aren't fun to ride.
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| I stay away from anything Impressive b/c of the whole genetic HYPP issue. As a whole, it is harder on resale with them even with a n/n test result.
Hancock ... of the 4 that I have owned 3 were buckers from the get go. The 4th, we never clicked. She was lazy as hell for me and when pushed or asked to "step up her game" she would refuse and we would "pick a fight" real quick.
Skipper W - you either love or hate 'em. I have a good one right now but Lord knows I have delt with some real idiots from that line too.
I'm actually really glad their are SO MANY horses and lines to choose from ... if you think about it, there are so many different riding abilities and types of riders that no one line of horse could possibly fit everyone. (JMO)  |
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| Sonny Dee Bar...Just dont get along with them
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Location: Midwest | I think some don't understand HYPP.... many Impressive horses were turned are more "Halter-ish" lines that are not super suitable for running barrels (depending on body type, obvi).
That being said, I run an N/N horse and he's solid, reliable, and honest. Have also shown him english...love him to death. |
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Location: Somewhere in the middle of nowhere | FlyingJT - 2014-01-15 10:55 AM
I'm sad to see so many non-hancock people. I love Hancock, Blue Valentine, driftwood Ike horses. I personally love their dispositions, gentle giants! My experience with them is that once they know their job they want to be left alone about it. Show them once and they have it forever. Pick on them and your going to eat dirt.
I agree with steering clear of Impressive lines and I also steer clear of skipper W horses. Not my cup of tea!
I completely agree with you! I love my Hancock gelding! |
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| lindseylou2290 - 2014-01-15 12:50 PM I stay away from anything Impressive b/c of the whole genetic HYPP issue. As a whole, it is harder on resale with them even with a n/n test result. Hancock ... of the 4 that I have owned 3 were buckers from the get go. The 4th, we never clicked. She was lazy as hell for me and when pushed or asked to "step up her game" she would refuse and we would "pick a fight" real quick. Skipper W - you either love or hate 'em. I have a good one right now but Lord knows I have delt with some real idiots from that line too. I'm actually really glad their are SO MANY horses and lines to choose from ... if you think about it, there are so many different riding abilities and types of riders that no one line of horse could possibly fit everyone. (JMO )
who were your Hancock horses crossed with? or were they linebred?
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Location: Buffalo, Wyoming | Mighty Broke - 2014-01-15 11:06 AM mruggles - 2014-01-15 1:00 PM i dont have any that im dead set against.........i think sometimes ppl get a mind block, if you took away the papers and just had the horse.....you would get a different result..........
m I have absolutely loved every Beduino horse that I have had, good on trails, ATHLETIC, but it seemed once it was time to ask for that little extra---their mind couldn't handle it. Again, it was probably just that we did not click because I know a lot of people that have had great success with this line. I just hate spending all the time that it takes to get them to the final stage and then to realize it isn't working--so I stay away from them.
I totally agree with this as far as the Beduino's. I have one in the barn right now and I don't if I should cut him loose or keeping trying. He is athletic as they come but it seems like almost everyday is a new day. He did have a light bulb come on this spring and summer but I don't know if it has stayed on because he got hurt. Will probably have to start all over again!! |
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Location: OH | Red3 - 2014-01-15 1:33 PM Three*C*Champs - 2014-01-15 1:14 PM Mighty Broke - 2014-01-15 10:06 AM mruggles - 2014-01-15 1:00 PM i dont have any that im dead set against.........i think sometimes ppl get a mind block, if you took away the papers and just had the horse.....you would get a different result..........
m I have absolutely loved every Beduino horse that I have had, good on trails, ATHLETIC, but it seemed once it was time to ask for that little extra---their mind couldn't handle it. Again, it was probably just that we did not click because I know a lot of people that have had great success with this line. I just hate spending all the time that it takes to get them to the final stage and then to realize it isn't working--so I stay away from them. I have an Ivory James, who obviously goes back to beduino lol. He is talented as heck but definitely takes a quiet hand and totally agree with the last bit of training they sometimes seem to take a few steps back. But he is definitely smart and once you figure out his quirks, he is pretty easy to handle
I absolutley LOVE Ivory James and I am actually planning on putting his blood in our little program in the future either through some broodies or buying a stallion. I have even considered crossong one of my Sun Frost daughters with him. For me, Beduino is so far back it is not a factor, when I say that I stay away from Beduino's it is up closer, but heck that is getting hard to find any more anyhow. |
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| FlyingJT - 2014-01-15 1:38 PM
roxieannie - 2014-01-15 12:36 PM
Years ago, an Impressive horse, good looking athletic sucker. He was hot and cold. One moment would show you how "dazzling" he was. The next, nope, not gonna work. He didn't want to do anything from trail riding to working cows or running barrels. He did enjoy you brushing him and telling him how beautiful he was, though.
This has been my experience. Grant it, I've only ever owned one that was impressive bred but he was exactly how you describe.
Same here! Impressive horses are bred to be looked at....not used. As soon as you need to count on them they will sell you short. |
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Location: Desert Land | On The Money Red...all of the own get I have been around were fractious and I just don't think I could get along with them. |
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| I think that there are more bad horsemen than bad bloodlines. Most of the lines mentioned above- you can't even hardly get on the papers anymore. By the time a horse is 3 or 4 or 5 generations out, does it really even count. I hear people say things about beduino's, then I see the papers and beduino is 4 gens back. I'm sorry but that isn't a beduino, that is a 1/14 beduino that has alot of other influence in there. I see that same thing with hancocks. That doesn't mean you have to like everything, but you might be missing out on some nice horses because of personal bias that doesn't make any sense. To each their own I guess. |
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