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| I think it would be more important to teach that whoa at the end, so why not keep her tamped down to a controllable speed? She is only five, that's still pretty young. And, she seems to clock pretty decent still at a slower speed coming home. Do that for a time and then slowly try to increase the speed very gradually. Of course, after all physical pain aspects have been checked out.
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | Whoop Z Day Z - 2014-01-18 8:13 PM This is the port bit I tried... I wish I had a safe place to breeze her. I should have sent her to the track when opurtunity arose I think she's be ten times the horse. Wow now thats alot of bit, the harder the bits that you keep on using on her the harder you are making her mouth. You are getting some really good tips on here, but I myself would get away from the harsh bits, and get her checked out. Good luck with your mare. 
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Location: Florida.. | Southtxponygirl - 2014-01-19 12:15 PM Whoop Z Day Z - 2014-01-18 8:13 PM This is the port bit I tried... I wish I had a safe place to breeze her. I should have sent her to the track when opurtunity arose I think she's be ten times the horse. Wow now thats alot of bit, the harder the bits that you keep on using on her the harder you are making her mouth. You are getting some really good tips on here, but I myself would get away from the harsh bits, and get her checked out. Good luck with your mare.
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| What is the matter with her running and stopping on her own at the gate. Has she hit the end? All my horses I let them stop on their own, never had a problem with them not stopping on their own, if I am running out onto the track, I let them coast past everyone before I ask for stop. If we are running out onto a grass pasture, I keep my horses straight and let them slow down on their own. Have never got the whole idea why people panic at the end and rip their horses face off while stopping. |
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Location: Where Governor's make the liscense plates | Does she know what a one rein stop is? I would try that first before adding more bit |
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Location: South Dakota | This sounds like my old barrel horse. I finally got a long shank with a chain mouthpiece and a noseband. It was the only thing that would stop him. The nice part was I could ride him with light hands. |
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Location: Great NW | My bet is her hocks are starting to bother her. Xrays. there is a reason why you just have to look deep enough to find it. |
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| I'm gonna say what you want and that's a whoa witch bit. I run my crazy gelding in a 8-1/2 inch shanked twisted wire gag combination bit. Works like a charm, but he was a hard mouthed sucker when I got him. I work him in a snaffle off the pattern, then a short shank smooth bar on the pattern slow.
I also found that when my mare was acting up during and after the pattern, I had over bitted her. I went from running in a short shank twisted wire combo on her to running in a smooth loose ring snaffle with a drop cavesson and a tie down. Different horse. So less may be more (I would only try it in a closed alleyway though, lol)
Of course, only use my suggestion if she's sound. |
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Location: CA | Most people when they have a horse that won't stop they get a bit dramatic at the end of a run and really bang on their face to get them to whoa. After a while the horse freeks at the end of the run and worries about this treatment. The other thing I see from time to time is people that wear spurs, when they get into a tight spot they really clamp down on their horse giving them the go signal while thrashing their face. I saw that a lot this weekend. I am not saying this is you, but you might want to think about what you are doing that causes her to want to "keep going". I get it is panic on her end. Fear. If she is good in her turns, she should be able to stop.... physically. So the less is more idea might be the ticket. Just sayin....
Another thing that happens, I had one off the track. After a certain speed he lost his mind and would actually run through fences. I rode him in a long shank hack and a lightweight mona lisa (my emergency brake). It worked, but it just wasn't fair to him. He made a lovely trail course horse and did well in western pleasure. |
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Location: Oregon | T turning 3 - 2014-01-20 9:35 AM Most people when they have a horse that won't stop they get a bit dramatic at the end of a run Been there, done that.
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| MO gal - 2014-01-19 9:50 AM
I think it would be more important to teach that whoa at the end, so why not keep her tamped down to a controllable speed? She is only five, that's still pretty young. And, she seems to clock pretty decent still at a slower speed coming home. Do that for a time and then slowly try to increase the speed very gradually. Of course, after all physical pain aspects have been checked out.
Good luck.
I agree, if it turns out it's not pain and adrenalene is the problem you should probably take her back a few steps, slow her down coming home controlled and stopping nicely and gradually build the speed back up. |
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| I have ridden a horse for the last 7 yrs. that does not stop leaving the arena. He will stop with the slightest sit in the saddle outside to barrel pattern and is acctually sort of lazy. No amout of bit or pulling will stop him leaving the arena. He actually sort of gains speed his whole run. I have come to think his brain and feet just dont connect with any speed. He does not run out of control or run off. He just takes time to coast to a stop. He will steer anywhere I put him. , I have adapted. In order to stop at a reasonable spot I would have to start pulling up leaving the third barrel. This horse wins a lot of 1D races and in video you can see him build speed. He wins most races running home where he can really outstride most. I just plan my exit route and warn people outside the gate. I hate running closed alleys on him as he will stop dead when he is at the gate(never hits it, but right to it)this kills my back.. I have had people tell me lots of things and bits to try and have over the years-doesnt really matter. I just have concluded that his brain and feet have slow connection. Tugging or pulling on him actually makes him worse . |
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