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horsegirl
Reg. Feb 2004
Posted 2014-01-21 1:40 PM
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Just Let Me Run - 2014-01-21 9:35 AM Thanks for the responses. I am not a coach by any means... guess I need to get more involved in sports because this is really what I want to do with my life. 

Just because you want to be a history teacher, doesnt mean you have to be a coach. It is just coincidence. You can absolutely be a history teacher that DOES NOT coach. 
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Just Let Me Run
Reg. Dec 2010
Posted 2014-01-21 3:45 PM
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dme0324
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Posted 2014-01-21 7:25 PM
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Β don't rule out middle school, you are pretty good with Mabes ,so that 7th /8th grade group my surprise you. 8th iis American history, prior to 8th its geography, socailbstudies.
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scamper
Reg. Dec 2003
Posted 2014-01-21 9:28 PM
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I love my job! It is not a core class, I teach ALL career and technology classes at a alternative campus, the kids that made a mistake or a bad choice. They are great kids actually love our campus. I don't have any lesson plans, grade as we go if I didn't I would be lost! Last grading period I had 37 classes, and that was just classes that required me to enter grades. I could ride everyday if my horses lived with me. When I leave at 330 I don't HaVe to worry about anything until in the mornig at 7.
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T-Cat
Reg. Jan 2008
Posted 2014-01-21 9:53 PM
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I teach 4th grade.  My contracted hours are 8:00-4:00, however, I work far more hours that that.  I am normally at work by 7:45 and if I leave at 4:00 I have a back pack full of papers to correct at home.  Once a week I stay until 6:00 to play "catch up."  Most nights if I don't haul work home, it means it was left unfinished.  I take continuing education classes outside of school hours and during the summer.  Oh, if only teaching was the 8:00-3:30 job people say it is!!!!! 
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komet.
Reg. Jun 2012
Posted 2014-01-21 10:03 PM
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I'm not a teacher... But I was blessed by spending 7th and 8 grades in a 3 room school-house with a teacher that taught those two grades plus 6th grade in all subjects... Greatest and most intelligent person I ever met in my life. Alexander O'Day... And he was supporting 9 of 11 children and a wife at the time.. Teachers today do not impress me.

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sodapop
Reg. Feb 2005
Posted 2014-01-21 10:48 PM
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komet. - 2014-01-21 10:03 PM

I'm not a teacher... But I was blessed by spending 7th and 8 grades in a 3 room school-house with a teacher that taught those two grades plus 6th grade in all subjects... Greatest and most intelligent person I ever met in my life. Alexander O'Day... And he was supporting 9 of 11 children and a wife at the time.. Teachers today do not impress me.

Β Do you spend a lot of time with teachers today?
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phillyincal
Reg. Jan 2005
Posted 2014-01-21 11:00 PM
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komet. - 2014-01-22 8:03 PM I'm not a teacher... But I was blessed by spending 7th and 8 grades in a 3 room school-house with a teacher that taught those two grades plus 6th grade in all subjects... Greatest and most intelligent person I ever met in my life. Alexander O'Day... And he was supporting 9 of 11 children and a wife at the time.. Teachers today do not impress me.

 I'm trying to understand why you felt the need to post this tactless comment...
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komet.
Reg. Jun 2012
Posted 2014-01-21 11:09 PM
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komet. - 2014-01-21 10:03 PM

I'm not a teacher... But I was blessed by spending 7th and 8 grades in a 3 room school-house with a teacher that taught those two grades plus 6th grade in all subjects... Greatest and most intelligent person I ever met in my life. Alexander O'Day... And he was supporting 9 of 11 children and a wife at the time.. Teachers today do not impress me.

Β Do you spend a lot of time with teachers today?

I know a few.. and they don't have the authority they used to.. nor the education..
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komet.
Reg. Jun 2012
Posted 2014-01-21 11:10 PM
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komet. - 2014-01-22 8:03 PM I'm not a teacher... But I was blessed by spending 7th and 8 grades in a 3 room school-house with a teacher that taught those two grades plus 6th grade in all subjects... Greatest and most intelligent person I ever met in my life. Alexander O'Day... And he was supporting 9 of 11 children and a wife at the time.. Teachers today do not impress me.

Β I'm trying to understand why you felt the need to post this tactless comment...

Just telling it how it is compared to how it used to be. Speaking of tactless.. look in a mirror..
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horsegirl
Reg. Feb 2004
Posted 2014-01-22 7:56 AM
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scamper - 2014-01-21 10:28 PM I love my job! It is not a core class, I teach ALL career and technology classes at a alternative campus, the kids that made a mistake or a bad choice. They are great kids actually love our campus. I don't have any lesson plans, grade as we go if I didn't I would be lost! Last grading period I had 37 classes, and that was just classes that required me to enter grades. I could ride everyday if my horses lived with me. When I leave at 330 I don't HaVe to worry about anything until in the mornig at 7.

I think we must teach in the same alternative school. LOL
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horsegirl
Reg. Feb 2004
Posted 2014-01-22 7:59 AM
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komet. - 2014-01-21 11:03 PM I'm not a teacher... But I was blessed by spending 7th and 8 grades in a 3 room school-house with a teacher that taught those two grades plus 6th grade in all subjects... Greatest and most intelligent person I ever met in my life. Alexander O'Day... And he was supporting 9 of 11 children and a wife at the time.. Teachers today do not impress me.

Well then. Thanks for that stab. Until you know the teachers you are grouping into that big generalization, it is not fair to make that comment. 
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komet.
Reg. Jun 2012
Posted 2014-01-22 8:27 AM
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komet. - 2014-01-21 11:03 PM I'm not a teacher... But I was blessed by spending 7th and 8 grades in a 3 room school-house with a teacher that taught those two grades plus 6th grade in all subjects... Greatest and most intelligent person I ever met in my life. Alexander O'Day... And he was supporting 9 of 11 children and a wife at the time.. Teachers today do not impress me.

Well then. Thanks for that stab. Until you know the teachers you are grouping into that big generalization, it is not fair to make that comment.Β 

Fair has nothing to do with it... I look around and see what is graduating from high school... Kids that can't read their way out of a wet paper bag.... Can't make change out a cash register without it telling them how much to give back... Private schools are still getting the job done but public schools are not.
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magic gunsmoke
Reg. Dec 2010
Posted 2014-01-22 8:33 AM
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Komet, I welcome you to come sub in my classroom for a week.

Then we will have a conversation about education, and "what it takes" along with "getting the job done."


 

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bennie1
Reg. Oct 2003
Posted 2014-01-22 8:37 AM
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komet. - 2014-01-22 8:27 AM
horsegirl - 2014-01-22 7:59 AM
komet. - 2014-01-21 11:03 PM I'm not a teacher... But I was blessed by spending 7th and 8 grades in a 3 room school-house with a teacher that taught those two grades plus 6th grade in all subjects... Greatest and most intelligent person I ever met in my life. Alexander O'Day... And he was supporting 9 of 11 children and a wife at the time.. Teachers today do not impress me.
Well then. Thanks for that stab. Until you know the teachers you are grouping into that big generalization, it is not fair to make that comment. 
Fair has nothing to do with it... I look around and see what is graduating from high school... Kids that can't read their way out of a wet paper bag.... Can't make change out a cash register without it telling them how much to give back... Private schools are still getting the job done but public schools are not.

I'm going to make a generalization here...but education needs to be valued in the family for children to be successful.  I.e. the parents need to be involved and engaged.
In general, if you are sending your children to private school, you value education and are engaged with your child's learning process.

Plenty of parents who's children go to public school value education and are involved and those children are successful.
Unfortunately, many children have parents who are not involved or even interested in their children's success at school.  They don't care if their child behaves, or does their homework, or disrespects the teachers, or even goes to school, much less gets an education while they are there. 

You will have children that have good parents that fail, and you will have children with no support that succeed, but they aren't the general rule.
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komet.
Reg. Jun 2012
Posted 2014-01-22 8:40 AM
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magic gunsmoke - 2014-01-22 8:33 AM

Komet, I welcome you to come sub in my classroom for a week.

Then we will have a conversation about education, and "what it takes."


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I'm not a teacher... I know I'm not... But I got a good education a long time ago in a public school and I don't have to go sit in a classroom to see what is coming out of schools today with a diploma. You can squawk all you want but the facts are the facts. Kids today are coming out of school unable to read or work numbers and don't know Madagascar from Tierra del Fuego...
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Three 4 Luck
Reg. Sep 2003
Posted 2014-01-22 8:51 AM
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bennie1 - 2014-01-22 8:37 AM
komet. - 2014-01-22 8:27 AM
horsegirl - 2014-01-22 7:59 AM
komet. - 2014-01-21 11:03 PM I'm not a teacher... But I was blessed by spending 7th and 8 grades in a 3 room school-house with a teacher that taught those two grades plus 6th grade in all subjects... Greatest and most intelligent person I ever met in my life. Alexander O'Day... And he was supporting 9 of 11 children and a wife at the time.. Teachers today do not impress me.
Well then. Thanks for that stab. Until you know the teachers you are grouping into that big generalization, it is not fair to make that comment. 
Fair has nothing to do with it... I look around and see what is graduating from high school... Kids that can't read their way out of a wet paper bag.... Can't make change out a cash register without it telling them how much to give back... Private schools are still getting the job done but public schools are not.
I'm going to make a generalization here...but education needs to be valued in the family for children to be successful.  I.e. the parents need to be involved and engaged.

In general, if you are sending your children to private school, you value education and are engaged with your child's learning process.



Plenty of parents who's children go to public school value education and are involved and those children are successful.

Unfortunately, many children have parents who are not involved or even interested in their children's success at school.  They don't care if their child behaves, or does their homework, or disrespects the teachers, or even goes to school, much less gets an education while they are there. 



You will have children that have good parents that fail, and you will have children with no support that succeed, but they aren't the general rule.

 Very very true.  There are good and bad teachers, just like there have always been. A big difference now is their hands are tied by politics more and more every year.  Teach this, not that.  You can't fail that kid.  It doesn't matter how much they learn if they don't do good on the assessment testing.  

I have absolutely had it with Common Core, btw.  This is our first year to start implementation (you would think private schools would be immune, but apparently there is some money involved).  Some of the teachers are trying to mitigate the damage as much as possible, but it's making a lot more work for them than the ones teaching strictly the scripted curriculum based on the CC standards.  Which is making a fortune for the companies writing materials for this crap.
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dme0324
Reg. Aug 2006
Posted 2014-01-22 9:18 AM
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komet. - 2014-01-22 8:40 AM
magic gunsmoke - 2014-01-22 8:33 AM Komet, I welcome you to come sub in my classroom for a week.



Then we will have a conversation about education, and "what it takes."




 
I'm not a teacher... I know I'm not... But I got a good education a long time ago in a public school and I don't have to go sit in a classroom to see what is coming out of schools today with a diploma. You can squawk all you want but the facts are the facts. Kids today are coming out of school unable to read or work numbers and don't know Madagascar from Tierra del Fuego...

So if you really believe it's the teacher's at fault -- all the more reason to encournage an exceptional young woman to pursue the profession because we need more teachers that are passionate about the subjects they're teaching instead of bashing an entire profession because some kids are coming out of school uneducated. 
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magic gunsmoke
Reg. Dec 2010
Posted 2014-01-22 9:27 AM
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komet. - 2014-01-22 9:40 AM
magic gunsmoke - 2014-01-22 8:33 AM Komet, I welcome you to come sub in my classroom for a week.



Then we will have a conversation about education, and "what it takes."




 
I'm not a teacher... I know I'm not... But I got a good education a long time ago in a public school and I don't have to go sit in a classroom to see what is coming out of schools today with a diploma. You can squawk all you want but the facts are the facts. Kids today are coming out of school unable to read or work numbers and don't know Madagascar from Tierra del Fuego...

I am a TEACHER. I was born the first moment that a question leaped from the mouth of a child. I am Socrates, exciting the youth of Athens to discover new ideas through the use of questions. I am Annie Sullivan, tapping out the secrets of the universe into the outstretched hand of Helen Keller. I am Marva Collins, fighting for every child's right to an education. I am Mary McCloud Bethune, building a great college for my people using orange crates for desks. I am Bel Kaufman, struggling to go "Up the Down Staircase."

The names of those who have practiced my profession ring like a hall of fame for humanity...Booker T. Washington, Ralph Waldo Emerson, Leo Buscaglia, and Moses.

I am also those whose names and faces have long been forgotten but whose lessons and character will always be remembered in the accomplishments of their students.

I have wept for joy at the weddings of former students, laughed with glee at the birth of their children, and stood with head bowed in grief and confusion by graves dug too soon for bodies far too young.

Throughout the course of a day I have been called upon to be an actor, friend, nurse and doctor, coach, finder of lost articles, money lender, taxi driver, psychologist, substitute parent, salesman, politician, and a keeper of faith.

A doctor is allowed to usher life into the world in one magic moment. I am allowed to see that life is reborn each day with new questions, ideas, and friendships. An architect knows that if he builds with care, his structure may stand for centuries. A teacher knows that if he builds with love and truth, what he builds lasts forever.

I am a warrior, daily doing battle against peer pressure, negativity, fear, conformity, prejudice, ignorance, and apathy. But I have great allies: Intelligence, curiosity, individuality, creativity, faith, love, and laughter all rush to my banner with indomitable support.


The kids that can’t do math or know the difference between Madagascar and Tierra del Fuego….those are the kids that are taking care of their parents or siblings, those are the kids that are getting abused/abducted, those are the kids that don’t have dinner and only eat at school. Those are the kids that have parents who are NOT supportive. Those are the kids that we as teachers do our very best to support and nurture and prepare for the world. We get to fight against people saying we all “suck,” politics, and people who tell us how to do our jobs. It is a THANKLESS JOB, but it is a job we do out of love.

We don’t have an educational issue in the public schools; we have political issues and parenting issues in our schools that get in the way of us helping our kids be all that they can be.
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magic gunsmoke
Reg. Dec 2010
Posted 2014-01-22 9:29 AM
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Sorry OP-I wil let things rest now. I say go for it!

If you want a history position at the high school level and are truly passionate about it, it will happen.

If you need any help please feel free to PM me.
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