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| hammer_time - 2014-01-21 12:29 AM
BMW - 2014-01-20 8:57 PM Names or no names, I hope you never have anything to do with my health care or anyone I know. BHW, nor any other gossip forum, is the place to vent about patients.
Vent aside.....You wouldn't want someone to genuinely care about your health? To see you so close to improving but you still not take action? im sure we all have done something a bit unprofessional at some point, knowingly or unknowingly. Cut her some slack. to the OP....I used to work with this VERY obese guy when I worked fast food. He was a cool guy, but so large, and so unhealthy. He hadn't been to the doctor in 10 years at least and I know that if he did go, they would probably tell him that he would die if he carried on the way he was. He was pushing 500, maybe more. I offered to make him healthy food options, but he always declined. It was very friustrating because I had a lot of healthy options and solutions and he just went for they fried foods everytime......I kinda know how you feel.
How much slack would the department director cut the OP upon reading what she said about a patient on a public forum? Act like a professional! |
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Location: Midwest | She deleted it. Let it go
Personally I'm frustrated knowing a lot of these people will end up disabled and on my tax bill due to their own noncompliance when they could be healthier if they just did as they were instructed. I don't mind paying for folks who cannot help their condition, but hearing about this crap grinds my gears. |
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Location: In The Land of Cotton | barrelracr131 - 2014-01-21 8:01 AM She deleted it. Let it go
Personally I'm frustrated knowing a lot of these people will end up disabled and on my tax bill due to their own noncompliance when they could be healthier if they just did as they were instructed. I don't mind paying for folks who cannot help their condition, but hearing about this crap grinds my gears.
This would be a better topic to discuss. People mooch off of us because of their desire or lack of control or who knows what and get out of control. |
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Location: Midwest Farmer's Daughter: Central Illinois | 3canstorun - 2014-01-21 7:59 AM barrelracr131 - 2014-01-21 8:01 AM She deleted it. Let it go
Personally I'm frustrated knowing a lot of these people will end up disabled and on my tax bill due to their own noncompliance when they could be healthier if they just did as they were instructed. I don't mind paying for folks who cannot help their condition, but hearing about this crap grinds my gears. This would be a better topic to discuss. People mooch off of us because of their desire or lack of control or who knows what and get out of control.
Don't get me started on people like that.
My mother is transferring to a different department & will no longer be hands-on. For this reason.
Oh, & the hospital she works for has gone all 'customer service' instead of 'patient service' & they don't give a chit about employee satisfaction. |
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Location: Texas | The OP did NOT violate any HiPPA laws if she did not state name, DOB, SS# or patient ID #. Perhaps this is not the ideal place to vent, but as a healthcare professional that is how people learn from each other. They bounce ideas off each other. Doctors do grand rounds all the time to discuss patients treatment t and outcomes all the time. So y'all quit slamming the OP she did nothing wrong professionally nor morally. |
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Location: DUMPING CATS AND PIGS IN TEXAS :) | I cannot participate in this conversation as it will make my blood pressure rise and I will want to poke my eyeballs out with toothpicks.......AND, everyone knows how much I HATE TOOTHPICKS!!!
So, carry on without me........
ps....people are stupid and should be allowed to weed themselves out......give it a good try......then move on to the next person that want's your help and advise.......can't save em' all........
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| Any identifying info. that someone could figure out who it was is Definitely a violation and grounds for discipline! |
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Location: In The Land of Cotton | LRQHS - 2014-01-21 11:47 AM I cannot participate in this conversation as it will make my blood pressure rise and I will want to poke my eyeballs out with toothpicks.......AND, everyone knows how much I HATE TOOTHPICKS!!!
So, carry on without me........
ps....people are stupid and should be allowed to weed themselves out......give it a good try......then move on to the next person that want's your help and advise.......can't save em' all........
My husband calls this natural selection. You and he think alike. |
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| Wow I didn't see her original post but unless she named a person or put details that would make it obvious who she was talking about, why is she being labeled unprofessional? Do you have to be a doctor to discuss specific patient issues on this forum without being slammed? I know for a fact that happens and have never seen anybody say anything about it. I guess we're all human and who you are sometimes affects how you're treated... |
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Location: DUMPING CATS AND PIGS IN TEXAS :) | LRQHS - 2014-01-21 10:47 AM I cannot participate in this conversation as it will make my blood pressure rise and I will want to poke my eyeballs out with toothpicks.......AND, everyone knows how much I HATE TOOTHPICKS!!!
So, carry on without me........
ps....people are stupid and should be allowed to weed themselves out......give it a good try......then move on to the next person that want's your help and advise.......can't save em' all........
Whoooaaaa, I got me a dislike....OH NO lol! Let me reword here..... change that to....
SOME people are stupid and should be allowed to weed themselves out....... |
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Location: Golden Gulf Coast of Texas | grullagirl - 2014-01-21 11:23 AM
Wow I didn't see her original post but unless she named a person or put details that would make it obvious who she was talking about, why is she being labeled unprofessional? Do you have to be a doctor to discuss specific patient issues on this forum without being slammed? I know for a fact that happens and have never seen anybody say anything about it. I guess we're all human and who you are sometimes affects how you're treated...
Totally agree!!!! Have seen numerous docs discuss patients and no one jumped on them. I have worked in the medical field for 30 years and she did nothing wrong. |
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Location: SE KS | I bet there is only "one" person in the "whole world", with the "symptoms" she described!!!!!!!!!!! LMAO!!!! The more hype the more attention, the more it gets blown outta of context!!!
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| I work in Alberta, and I guess we have much stricter confidentiality laws, as we cannot speak specifics outside of the hospital, no specific lab results, this is why I made the first comment. We are not to provide any information that could identify a certain client.
With today's technology, anything can be found, and with lawyers who sue for malpractice they will find that information.
Myself I a, not willing to gamble my liscence on what is or is not in violation of confidentiality laws.
Also to the op yes it is frustrating, I swear I have seen it all, find that one person at work to talk to, seek guidance in your nursing instructors. I spoke with one instructor a few times in my first year.
Now you are a professional, and the crappy thing about that is you should act like a professional at all times, as things you do outside of work clients will hold it against you especially of you work in a small town.
The other thing is Facebook, I know there have been nurses in Canada fired over posting photos of themselves in the hospital with no patients in the picture, I suggest if you have not looked into your licensing body's regulation and your employers policy |
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Location: Midwest | cheryl makofka - 2014-01-21 12:00 PM I work in Alberta, and I guess we have much stricter confidentiality laws, as we cannot speak specifics outside of the hospital, no specific lab results, this is why I made the first comment. We are not to provide any information that could identify a certain client. With today's technology, anything can be found, and with lawyers who sue for malpractice they will find that information. Myself I a, not willing to gamble my liscence on what is or is not in violation of confidentiality laws. Also to the op yes it is frustrating, I swear I have seen it all, find that one person at work to talk to, seek guidance in your nursing instructors. I spoke with one instructor a few times in my first year. Now you are a professional, and the crappy thing about that is you should act like a professional at all times, as things you do outside of work clients will hold it against you especially of you work in a small town. The other thing is Facebook, I know there have been nurses in Canada fired over posting photos of themselves in the hospital with no patients in the picture, I suggest if you have not looked into your licensing body's regulation and your employers policy
you must have stricter laws
doctors here discuss patient results here all the time during rounds. This is a teaching hospital and they still operate under HIPAA guidelines.
things like test results and other general information, such as gender, weight, age, etc are not governed by HIPAA.
HIPAA relates to facial photographs, name, ss#, DOB, medical record number... specific patient identifiers. I can't tell you if what she said was a violation since I never saw it, but everything on this thread is acceptable. |
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| If discussing pt cases in this manner is grounds for punishment, then someone is going to be very busy and needs to get started. You will haft to find every person that's has ever attended medical training, took continuing education classes, has attended a seminar or conference, has contributed to a text book, has been employed by or a student at any kind of medical facility, has done any volunteer work with any kind of medical purpose, or has had a friend /relative/ knows someone in the same town that........
While there is a time and place for everything, there was no HIPAA violation if there was no identifying information given. I had a pt that ....... is simply discussing a case and as I said this happens EVERYWHERE . Weather it is formal or informal discussing cases is a must for those in any medical field, this is how we learn and develop other perspectives on a situation. Do you really want a Dr. who has not discussed treating a pt with heart disease with anyone anywhere sense he got his license 30 years ago?
If work can not be discussed on hear than it needs to apply to everyone. So for everyone attacking the OP I assume I will see you voice a similar opinion next time a teacher vents a little about the kid in her class that wipes his boggers everywhere, or even when a horse trainer comes on hear and discusses a clients horse? Do these, and many other people with whom you choose to do business, not have personal information and situations that you do not want out?
Everyone must make there own personal decision about what is to be discussed and where. Although I personally do not discuss my pts on the internet (and cannot due to the non disclosure agreement I have sighed with my employer), I have no right to attack someone else for the personal choices they have made as to what is appropriate. This is why we have such laws as HIPAA so that we have set guidelines as to what can and cannot happen, if everyone had the right to punish someone else based on there own personal opinions, to put it frankly, we would all be screwed. |
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Location: Texas | grullagirl - 2014-01-21 11:23 AM Wow I didn't see her original post but unless she named a person or put details that would make it obvious who she was talking about, why is she being labeled unprofessional? Do you have to be a doctor to discuss specific patient issues on this forum without being slammed? I know for a fact that happens and have never seen anybody say anything about it. I guess we're all human and who you are sometimes affects how you're treated... I did see the origional post. She did not name names or put any specific info other then it was a middle aged male. Basically just talked about how his levels were off and pretty much didn't care. He wasn't taking care of himself and she was frustrated.
I haven't chimed in because I don't know exactly what can and can't be said... but I didn't think it was out of line, and I couldn't pick this person out if I tried.
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Location: ND | BMW - 2014-01-20 10:57 PM Names or no names, I hope you never have anything to do with my health care or anyone I know. BHW, nor any other gossip forum, is the place to vent about patients.
i hope i never have you as a patient...lol....we would probably fire each other in short order |
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Location: ND | BMW - 2014-01-21 12:46 AM hammer_time - 2014-01-21 12:29 AM BMW - 2014-01-20 8:57 PM Names or no names, I hope you never have anything to do with my health care or anyone I know. BHW, nor any other gossip forum, is the place to vent about patients. Vent aside.....You wouldn't want someone to genuinely care about your health? To see you so close to improving but you still not take action?
im sure we all have done something a bit unprofessional at some point, knowingly or unknowingly. Cut her some slack.
to the OP....I used to work with this VERY obese guy when I worked fast food. He was a cool guy, but so large, and so unhealthy. He hadn't been to the doctor in 10 years at least and I know that if he did go, they would probably tell him that he would die if he carried on the way he was. He was pushing 500, maybe more. I offered to make him healthy food options, but he always declined. It was very friustrating because I had a lot of healthy options and solutions and he just went for they fried foods everytime......I kinda know how you feel. How much slack would the department director cut the OP upon reading what she said about a patient on a public forum? Act like a professional!
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Location: North Dakota | barrelracr131 - 2014-01-21 12:06 PM cheryl makofka - 2014-01-21 12:00 PM I work in Alberta, and I guess we have much stricter confidentiality laws, as we cannot speak specifics outside of the hospital, no specific lab results, this is why I made the first comment. We are not to provide any information that could identify a certain client. With today's technology, anything can be found, and with lawyers who sue for malpractice they will find that information. Myself I a, not willing to gamble my liscence on what is or is not in violation of confidentiality laws. Also to the op yes it is frustrating, I swear I have seen it all, find that one person at work to talk to, seek guidance in your nursing instructors. I spoke with one instructor a few times in my first year. Now you are a professional, and the crappy thing about that is you should act like a professional at all times, as things you do outside of work clients will hold it against you especially of you work in a small town. The other thing is Facebook, I know there have been nurses in Canada fired over posting photos of themselves in the hospital with no patients in the picture, I suggest if you have not looked into your licensing body's regulation and your employers policy you must have stricter laws
doctors here discuss patient results here all the time during rounds. This is a teaching hospital and they still operate under HIPAA guidelines.
things like test results and other general information, such as gender, weight, age, etc are not governed by HIPAA.
HIPAA relates to facial photographs, name, ss#, DOB, medical record number... specific patient identifiers. I can't tell you if what she said was a violation since I never saw it, but everything on this thread is acceptable.
Cheryl Makofka is correct in my personal opinion. Doctors in the United States can discuss patient results during rounds because they are discussing with patient caregivers (hospital employees) and all should have signed confidentiality statements.
I believe it is incorrect to say that HIPAA relates only to facial photographs, etc. Specific medical information, even without mentioning a name, is a serious HIPAA violation. We do have strict laws in the US governing them. She did delete the information because I saw nothing, which is a good thing. |
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