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      Location: The edge of no where | Married2Rodeo - 2014-01-24 8:41 AM Not to steal the OP thread calf roping has rules that protect unnecessary roughness with the calves. People get fined for cracking their slack down their backs to pitch the calves Those suckers are literally worth their weight in gold and the stock contractors want them protected. They are not little 50lb baby's either. In a perfect world when you flank you roll them down your legs not body slam them like WWF. Yes when theres a ton of $$ on the line and when adrenaline gets going people can get a little to rough ( similar to a barrel race-- people get excited rip on faces and over use spurs and crops) that's why their are fines in place and you can bet your butt that the stock contractors will be on a fine if a calf is hurt or treated unfairly. And calves are not like foals. They are made of much tougher stuff. I used to feel the same way until I married a roper and I was actually around cattle a lot. ( I used to NEVER want to use a hot shot that didn't last long lol). I loved them and wanted to treat them like horses and you can't. They are to different.
Exactly..
This is NOT cowboy tradition. Looks like nothing more than a bunch of wannabe losers that can't hang at the sanctioned events. |
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    Location: Texas | Didn't watch the video, but based on the article, this is NOT a tradition. I've seen horses roped before, but they are usually young or wild and that is the only way to catch them. There is no purpose in what these morons are doing. |
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    Location: Midwest | aggiejudger - 2014-01-24 8:57 AM Didn't watch the video, but based on the article, this is NOT a tradition. I've seen horses roped before, but they are usually young or wild and that is the only way to catch them. There is no purpose in what these morons are doing.
This is what I thought... horses were only roped for a purpose, not sport...
Even out here they have practice ropings for newbies... with cattle... so why don't these folks just organize something like that? |
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      Location: Never in one place long | This is sick... I'm not a fan either... this is NOT allowed in the US correct? Mexico needs to step up and create some animal welfare laws... surely it won't happen when people die every day from corruptness...... |
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   Location: SE Louisiana | DLV - 2014-01-24 9:06 AM
This is sick... I'm not a fan either... this is NOT allowed in the US correct? Mexico needs to step up and create some animal welfare laws... surely it won't happen when people die every day from corruptness......
Wrong.. this is taking place in BOX ELDER COUNTY, Utah.. |
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    Location: Midwest | komet. - 2014-01-24 9:16 AM DLV - 2014-01-24 9:06 AM This is sick... I'm not a fan either... this is NOT allowed in the US correct? Mexico needs to step up and create some animal welfare laws... surely it won't happen when people die every day from corruptness...... Wrong.. this is taking place in BOX ELDER COUNTY, Utah.. yeah, it was a white guy lol
ETA Just pointing out it was not a mexican rodeo, chill
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| I dont agree with this event. I think its cruelty. I know Cheyenne Frontier Rodeo has been in the public eye with horse abuse. |
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    Location: NC | The horses looked like scared young colts.
I wasn't a fan of it. Not at all. |
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  Location: Idaho | Not my favorite event, but it is tradition, has gone on for many years and there are sanctioned events. Front footing colts like they are is a pretty common way to brand and geld them. Horse roping has recently been outlawed by the state of Oregon. Wonder what they will come after next? Like I said, not my favorite event, just sharing some information. Surprised so many are unfamiliar with it. |
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       Location: In The Snow, AZ | I didn't read all of the replys,but I think anyone who understood horses or at least had any compassion or love for the animal, would NOT treat them that way. I know to a lot of people, horses are just "tools" and nothing else. My BIL "uses" his horses for hunting. They are not pets. They are not necessarily for enjoyment, they are TOOLS. And he wouldn't even do that. I understand for round ups and such, that may be needed. But a competition? That is cruelty. |
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| Jethro - 2014-01-24 9:27 AM Not my favorite event, but it is tradition, has gone on for many years and there are sanctioned events. Front footing colts like they are is a pretty common way to brand and geld them. Horse roping has recently been outlawed by the state of Oregon. Wonder what they will come after next? Like I said, not my favorite event, just sharing some information. Surprised so many are unfamiliar with it.
They may try to come after other events but that is no reason to turn a blind eye to cruelty. |
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| CE's wrapn3 - 2014-01-24 8:18 AM
Β I personally wouldn't do it. .DoΒ you believe in calf roping? They rope them by the neck, they get whip lashΒ thenΒ pulled up by the flank and thrown to the ground but you can't rope a horse by its front legs? I'm just curious what you think?
I personally am bothered by some of the calf roping I have seen....
SHARK has some very convincing and bothersome videos of rodeos where the animals don't look treated the greatest... I don't support these animal 'rights' groups, but SOME of this footage is very disturbing to me.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XZxL7umkbRo
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    Location: Midwest | another concern of mine: what are these animals used for after they are no longer suitable for this event?
horses aren't being slaughtered here anymore, and people are working to cut off the practice of shipping them to Canada and MX in the future... what is the final destination for these horses once they get sour or injured? or even too old?
Don't think they would make good riding horses after this
ETA right now I would imagine they go to the kill pen
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   Location: Great NW | Horses are not as tough as cattle. I understand to rope them when rounding them up but to rope them for sport is sick. specially when they know they have to cut off their air for even a few seconds for the 2nd guy to come in. I would like to see results testing to see how much scar tissue in airway caused from this treatment. |
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         Location: Where I am happiest | No way around it, it's cruelty. |
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          Location: Riding Crackhead. | Jethro - 2014-01-24 9:27 AM Not my favorite event, but it is tradition, has gone on for many years and there are sanctioned events. Front footing colts like they are is a pretty common way to brand and geld them. Horse roping has recently been outlawed by the state of Oregon. Wonder what they will come after next? Like I said, not my favorite event, just sharing some information. Surprised so many are unfamiliar with it.
They aren't gelding them though. Yes, when my brother gelds studs he ropes both ends and lays them down. He doesn't jerk the crap out of them like they show in the video. I've helped him many times. That IS NOT what they are doing in the video. This is a bunch of white trash playing cowboy. |
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  Location: Idaho | CYA Ranch - 2014-01-24 8:05 AM
Jethro - 2014-01-24 9:27 AM Not my favorite event, but it is tradition, has gone on for many years and there are sanctioned events. Front footing colts like they are is a pretty common way to brand and geld them. Horse roping has recently been outlawed by the state of Oregon. Wonder what they will come after next? Like I said, not my favorite event, just sharing some information. Surprised so many are unfamiliar with it.
They aren't gelding them though.Β Yes, when my brother gelds studs he ropes both ends and lays them down.Β He doesn't jerk the crap out of them like they show in the video.Β I've helped him many times.Β That IS NOT what they are doing in the video.Β This is a bunch of white trash playing cowboy. Β
I will agree with you on that. I only watched a piece of the video. Even the sanctioned events I've seen haven't used animals small and young enough to fit in a regular chute, nor have they been purposefully rough. Animals so get hurt though and it is a rough event, no denying that. Just saying it got its routes through ranch work, like most of the other events. |
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        Location: ND | it's naive to think that this isn't cowboy culture and hasn't been forever.........i, for one, don't have a problem with tripping horses to catch them or neck roping them either but i'm not really a fan of competitions out of it.... |
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        Location: ND | CYA Ranch - 2014-01-24 10:05 AM Jethro - 2014-01-24 9:27 AM Not my favorite event, but it is tradition, has gone on for many years and there are sanctioned events. Front footing colts like they are is a pretty common way to brand and geld them. Horse roping has recently been outlawed by the state of Oregon. Wonder what they will come after next? Like I said, not my favorite event, just sharing some information. Surprised so many are unfamiliar with it. They aren't gelding them though. Yes, when my brother gelds studs he ropes both ends and lays them down. He doesn't jerk the crap out of them like they show in the video. I've helped him many times. That IS NOT what they are doing in the video. This is a bunch of white trash playing cowboy.
this is great basin cowboy culture still in practice....used to be tradition all over cowyboy country.......tradition doesn't mean it's right though... |
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