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Location: In my own world | CYA Ranch - 2014-01-30 4:36 PM livinonlove&horses - 2014-01-30 4:32 PM Bibliafarm - 2014-01-30 4:25 PM livinonlove&horses - 2014-01-30 5:20 PM Bibliafarm - 2014-01-30 4:15 PM I think they meant online.
and also its not fixed .. they change it up quite alot.. was my issue with them..
triple crown is my feed of choice and adm.. but .. whos to say.. purina isnt great to..
I know Woodys will deliver if you buy a whole pallet. But it would take me a while to go through one. Too bad we don't live close enough to share!! And I need some form of pelleted feed. Have 2 oldies that need soaked feed |
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| livinonlove&horses - 2014-01-30 4:20 PM Bibliafarm - 2014-01-30 4:15 PM I think they meant online.
and also its not fixed .. they change it up quite alot.. was my issue with them..
I was told that feed companies that do not have a fixed formula have a 6 month window to change ingredient tags. |
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 I Prefer to Live in Fantasy Land
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Location: In the Hills of Texas | hlynn - 2014-01-30 4:50 PM Purina is the low man on the totem pole. They have a decent tag. But there's no guarantee that they use the same amounts of each ingredient every time. And yes, with a non-fixed formula feed you could have two very different versions of your feed within a few bags. Processes feed isn't perfect. But companies like Triple Crown, Buckeye, Seminole, Blue Bonnet, ADM, and a few others are miles ahead of Purina/Nutrena. They have better ingredients. Better formulas. And better nutrition. If I could afford to feed raw materials to my herd, I would. But to get the nutrition from raw feeds that I get from TC Senior, I would have to spend quite a bit. Rice bran. Flax. Pre/probiotic. Alfalfa meal. Beet pulp. Soybean meal. Etc. So I choose to feed the best processed feed I can find.
I just fed my last bag of Triple Crown as getting Nutrena to mix their feed was a kiss of death. My very consistent Triple Crown Senior became the most inconstent crap. Pretty bad when my husband, who barely ever feeds, ask me when I changed my feed.. |
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  Warmblood with Wings
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Location: Florida.. | hlynn - 2014-01-30 5:52 PM And the cheaper formulas are still 'plant protein byproduct' type feed labels. Just check that Omolene some of you love so much. Sweet feed is pure junk. You could find soybeans, cottonseed, alfalfa, or wheat meal in any given bag. A little too open for my taste.
that can go with any of the low end of totem pole feeds.. not just purina... and I disagree with its the lowest on pole there are several others I will not feed either..
I think if others cant get some feeds and it works for them so be it.. |
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Location: Texas | I went to a research study put on by Purina yesterday. It was interesting, they probably didn't like me much since I am a Purina hater..... But the $200 for an hour of my opinions wasn't bad.... They did tell me the "dog food " side of Purina vs the "horse side" are owned by and are two different companies... Who knows. |
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Warmblood with Wings
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Location: Florida.. | Nevertooold - 2014-01-30 5:56 PM hlynn - 2014-01-30 4:50 PM Purina is the low man on the totem pole. They have a decent tag. But there's no guarantee that they use the same amounts of each ingredient every time. And yes, with a non-fixed formula feed you could have two very different versions of your feed within a few bags. Processes feed isn't perfect. But companies like Triple Crown, Buckeye, Seminole, Blue Bonnet, ADM, and a few others are miles ahead of Purina/Nutrena. They have better ingredients. Better formulas. And better nutrition. If I could afford to feed raw materials to my herd, I would. But to get the nutrition from raw feeds that I get from TC Senior, I would have to spend quite a bit. Rice bran. Flax. Pre/probiotic. Alfalfa meal. Beet pulp. Soybean meal. Etc. So I choose to feed the best processed feed I can find. I just fed my last bag of Triple Crown as getting Nutrena to mix their feed was a kiss of death. My very consistent Triple Crown Senior became the most inconstent crap. Pretty bad when my husband, who barely ever feeds, ask me when I changed my feed..
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Location: relocated to Texas | Nevertooold - 2014-01-31 3:22 PM I would say that Purina finally stepped up to the plate...they haven't before. They have always listed ingredients on their bags but it was with grain by products etc instead of listing what actual grains were in their feed. I've been a hater and will continue to be. Purina sucks..LOL
I don't like it either. Wheat Middings and Soy Hulls. I wonder, does the OP know what those are? |
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 A Lady with Fight
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Location: NC | Nevertooold - 2014-01-30 5:56 PM
hlynn - 2014-01-30 4:50 PM Purina is the low man on the totem pole. They have a decent tag. But there's no guarantee that they use the same amounts of each ingredient every time. And yes, with a non-fixed formula feed you could have two very different versions of your feed within a few bags. Processes feed isn't perfect. But companies like Triple Crown, Buckeye, Seminole, Blue Bonnet, ADM, and a few others are miles ahead of Purina/Nutrena. They have better ingredients. Better formulas. And better nutrition. If I could afford to feed raw materials to my herd, I would. But to get the nutrition from raw feeds that I get from TC Senior, I would have to spend quite a bit. Rice bran. Flax. Pre/probiotic. Alfalfa meal. Beet pulp. Soybean meal. Etc. So I choose to feed the best processed feed I can find.
I just fed my last bag of Triple Crown as getting Nutrena to mix their feed was a kiss of death. My very consistent Triple Crown Senior became the most inconstent crap. Pretty bad when my husband, who barely ever feeds, ask me when I changed my feed..
Southern States produces it here in the south. So I'll keep it. |
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| hlynn - 2014-01-30 4:50 PM
Purina is the low man on the totem pole. They have a decent tag. But there's no guarantee that they use the same amounts of each ingredient every time. And yes, with a non-fixed formula feed you could have two very different versions of your feed within a few bags.
Processes feed isn't perfect. But companies like Triple Crown, Buckeye, Seminole, Blue Bonnet, ADM, and a few others are miles ahead of Purina/Nutrena. They have better ingredients. Better formulas. And better nutrition.
If I could afford to feed raw materials to my herd, I would. But to get the nutrition from raw feeds that I get from TC Senior, I would have to spend quite a bit. Rice bran. Flax. Pre/probiotic. Alfalfa meal. Beet pulp. Soybean meal. Etc. So I choose to feed the best processed feed I can find.
FYI Triple Crown is owned by Nutrena, some of their mills still produce it, however I know in TX the Nutrena Giddings plant produces TC |
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A Lady with Fight
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Location: NC | Bibliafarm - 2014-01-30 5:56 PM
hlynn - 2014-01-30 5:52 PM And the cheaper formulas are still 'plant protein byproduct' type feed labels. Just check that Omolene some of you love so much. Sweet feed is pure junk. You could find soybeans, cottonseed, alfalfa, or wheat meal in any given bag. A little too open for my taste.
that can go with any of the low end of totem pole feeds.. not just purina... and I disagree with its the lowest on pole there are several others I will not feed either..
I think if others cant get some feeds and it works for them so be it..
I know. That's what I meant. The cheap end of ANY feed company has junk ingredients. |
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A Lady with Fight
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Location: NC | txaggiegal - 2014-01-30 6:00 PM
hlynn - 2014-01-30 4:50 PM
Purina is the low man on the totem pole. They have a decent tag. But there's no guarantee that they use the same amounts of each ingredient every time. And yes, with a non-fixed formula feed you could have two very different versions of your feed within a few bags.
Processes feed isn't perfect. But companies like Triple Crown, Buckeye, Seminole, Blue Bonnet, ADM, and a few others are miles ahead of Purina/Nutrena. They have better ingredients. Better formulas. And better nutrition.
If I could afford to feed raw materials to my herd, I would. But to get the nutrition from raw feeds that I get from TC Senior, I would have to spend quite a bit. Rice bran. Flax. Pre/probiotic. Alfalfa meal. Beet pulp. Soybean meal. Etc. So I choose to feed the best processed feed I can find.
FYI Triple Crown is owned by Nutrena, some of their mills still produce it, however I know in TX the Nutrena Giddings plant produces TC
They're not owned by Nutrena. They contracted Nutrena to mill their feed out west. That's it. |
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Nevertooold - 2014-01-30 5:56 PM
hlynn - 2014-01-30 4:50 PM Purina is the low man on the totem pole. They have a decent tag. But there's no guarantee that they use the same amounts of each ingredient every time. And yes, with a non-fixed formula feed you could have two very different versions of your feed within a few bags. Processes feed isn't perfect. But companies like Triple Crown, Buckeye, Seminole, Blue Bonnet, ADM, and a few others are miles ahead of Purina/Nutrena. They have better ingredients. Better formulas. And better nutrition. If I could afford to feed raw materials to my herd, I would. But to get the nutrition from raw feeds that I get from TC Senior, I would have to spend quite a bit. Rice bran. Flax. Pre/probiotic. Alfalfa meal. Beet pulp. Soybean meal. Etc. So I choose to feed the best processed feed I can find.
I just fed my last bag of Triple Crown as getting Nutrena to mix their feed was a kiss of death. My very consistent Triple Crown Senior became the most inconstent crap. Pretty bad when my husband, who barely ever feeds, ask me when I changed my feed..
Southern States produces it here in the south. So I'll keep it.
I am in Montana and our dealer had to send a bunch of Triple Crown back because there was oil pooling up under the stack of bags. They have been having a bunch of issues with it. I started feeding it in 1997 was so sad to see Nutrena take it over. I don't care for purina you just don't know what is in most of it, floor sweepings for all I know. We are bringing in some Tribute feed to try now. |
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Location: Texas | Boy is this ever an eye opener. I thought I was doing good feeding WellSolve Low Starch Low Sugar. Now what????
Those of you on here that hate Purina, What do you feed?
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I Prefer to Live in Fantasy Land
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Location: In the Hills of Texas | HaleyT - 2014-01-30 4:58 PM I went to a research study put on by Purina yesterday. It was interesting, they probably didn't like me much since I am a Purina hater..... But the $200 for an hour of my opinions wasn't bad.... They did tell me the "dog food " side of Purina vs the "horse side" are owned by and are two different companies... Who knows.
Nestle Company owns the Purina Mills pet food part and Land of Lakes owns the Purina Mills animal feed division. |
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I Prefer to Live in Fantasy Land
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Location: In the Hills of Texas | cutnrunqhmt - 2014-01-30 5:04 PM hlynn - 2014-01-30 5:00 PM Nevertooold - 2014-01-30 5:56 PM hlynn - 2014-01-30 4:50 PM Purina is the low man on the totem pole. They have a decent tag. But there's no guarantee that they use the same amounts of each ingredient every time. And yes, with a non-fixed formula feed you could have two very different versions of your feed within a few bags. Processes feed isn't perfect. But companies like Triple Crown, Buckeye, Seminole, Blue Bonnet, ADM, and a few others are miles ahead of Purina/Nutrena. They have better ingredients. Better formulas. And better nutrition. If I could afford to feed raw materials to my herd, I would. But to get the nutrition from raw feeds that I get from TC Senior, I would have to spend quite a bit. Rice bran. Flax. Pre/probiotic. Alfalfa meal. Beet pulp. Soybean meal. Etc. So I choose to feed the best processed feed I can find. I just fed my last bag of Triple Crown as getting Nutrena to mix their feed was a kiss of death. My very consistent Triple Crown Senior became the most inconstent crap. Pretty bad when my husband, who barely ever feeds, ask me when I changed my feed.. Southern States produces it here in the south. So I'll keep it. I am in Montana and our dealer had to send a bunch of Triple Crown back because there was oil pooling up under the stack of bags. They have been having a bunch of issues with it. I started feeding it in 1997 was so sad to see Nutrena take it over. I don't care for purina you just don't know what is in most of it, floor sweepings for all I know. We are bringing in some Tribute feed to try now.
I agree...Very sad. I loved the Triple Crown Senior. Every single bag use to be the same. The last bag was all clumped up and the pellets were bigger with 2 different colored pellets in it and didn't look anything like what I had been getting. I threw it over the fence and the deer ate it but it sure took them long enough. |
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Location: Alberta | livinonlove&horses - 2014-01-30 3:51 PM dream_chaser - 2014-01-30 4:45 PM So is it required feed companies list ingredients on their products.....monitored by any Federal or State regulators? I don't know. I'll ask the next time I'm at the feed store
Thank you.....this just peaked my curiosity regarding that cause in Canada we do have federal regulators for all feed products made and labels are required.....we also are required to give our names when buying bagged feed types due to if any product is recalled.... |
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Location: relocated to Texas | texas taz - 2014-01-31 4:09 PM Boy is this ever an eye opener. I thought I was doing good feeding WellSolve Low Starch Low Sugar. Now what????
Those of you on here that hate Purina, What do you feed?
Mix my own, barley, oats and corn. Two parts barley, two parts oats to one part corn. Then I feed Dynamite minerals. At least I know they are getting whole grain, no molasses and the best minerals on the market (IMO). |
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Location: In the Hills of Texas | texas taz - 2014-01-30 5:09 PM Boy is this ever an eye opener. I thought I was doing good feeding WellSolve Low Starch Low Sugar. Now what????
Those of you on here that hate Purina, What do you feed?
I feed very little grain so I was just feeding 2 cups of Triple Crown with beet pulp. I know feed Beet Pulp (4 cups dry and then add about 4 cups water to soak) with 1# Renew Gold. I also feed a THE product (I rotate products) and FORCO.
My horse gets Alfalfa along with free choice Coastal Hay.
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | Nevertooold - 2014-01-30 5:13 PM cutnrunqhmt - 2014-01-30 5:04 PM hlynn - 2014-01-30 5:00 PM Nevertooold - 2014-01-30 5:56 PM hlynn - 2014-01-30 4:50 PM Purina is the low man on the totem pole. They have a decent tag. But there's no guarantee that they use the same amounts of each ingredient every time. And yes, with a non-fixed formula feed you could have two very different versions of your feed within a few bags. Processes feed isn't perfect. But companies like Triple Crown, Buckeye, Seminole, Blue Bonnet, ADM, and a few others are miles ahead of Purina/Nutrena. They have better ingredients. Better formulas. And better nutrition. If I could afford to feed raw materials to my herd, I would. But to get the nutrition from raw feeds that I get from TC Senior, I would have to spend quite a bit. Rice bran. Flax. Pre/probiotic. Alfalfa meal. Beet pulp. Soybean meal. Etc. So I choose to feed the best processed feed I can find. I just fed my last bag of Triple Crown as getting Nutrena to mix their feed was a kiss of death. My very consistent Triple Crown Senior became the most inconstent crap. Pretty bad when my husband, who barely ever feeds, ask me when I changed my feed.. Southern States produces it here in the south. So I'll keep it. I am in Montana and our dealer had to send a bunch of Triple Crown back because there was oil pooling up under the stack of bags. They have been having a bunch of issues with it. I started feeding it in 1997 was so sad to see Nutrena take it over. I don't care for purina you just don't know what is in most of it, floor sweepings for all I know. We are bringing in some Tribute feed to try now.
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Location: Texas | Thank yall for the information! Very appreciated. |
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