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| I don't normally use any drugs on my horses, not even banamine. However I have a finished gelding that is very hot and no amount of horsemanship/slow work/ranch work is going to change him. He is hot at the alley and will be until the day he dies. He has been vetted from one end to the other so he is very sound, just very anxious. I have tried chlorpromazine on him several times and I am not impressed with it. The first time we gave it, he was somewhat calmer but did not run as hard and it made him salivate profusely a couple hours later and he choked really bad. That was on 3/4cc. Each time I have gave him less and it doesn't calm his nerves enough to bother with it but it for sure has slowed him down every ruin.....lost 3-4/10ths. Most every time he has salivated a lot. If you google and read, it is a human antipsychotic drug and I'm convinced I never want to use it on a horse again. |
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Location: Benton City, WA | Honestly, I'm a vet and I have been too worried about possible adverse reactions to ever use CP or fluphenazine. I bought a blown up project horse last fall who had some very serious anxiety issues, in addition to being naturally hot. I found that a little bit (0.5 cc) of ace IM helped him in situations that I knew were going to trigger him. At first I used it more often (at barrel races) & now he can go without it.
I do not beleive I would want to use sedative/psychotropic drugs long term on a hot horse. I think in conjunction with consistent training, they can help you work through issues. JMO |
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| Question for you all, I have a mare that is not what i would consider a "hot" mare at all, she doesn't jump around but she is a very internally nervous horse and while she can work a ncie pattern at home she loses all her focus at a barrel race and forgets what she is supposed to do. I have tried ace two times and it helped the first time although she ran past the first she did not anticiptate 2nd like she normally does and turned it very nice. I just wonder if there is something better I might try for her. I have had hot horses before and nervous ones but not like her where she kind of just "checks out" during her run?? Also, I do talk to my regular vet often about her but he has very limited practice with anything more than routine vaccinations.
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Location: Deep South | ChicksInferno - 2014-02-10 9:11 AM
Question for you all, I have a mare that is not what i would consider a "hot" mare at all, she doesn't jump around but she is a very internally nervous horse and while she can work a ncie pattern at home she loses all her focus at a barrel race and forgets what she is supposed to do. I have tried ace two times and it helped the first time although she ran past the first she did not anticiptate 2nd like she normally does and turned it very nice. I just wonder if there is something better I might try for her. I have had hot horses before and nervous ones but not like her where she kind of just "checks out" during her run?? Also, I do talk to my regular vet often about her but he has very limited practice with anything more than routine vaccinations.
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Location: OK | The reason I like a 30-day med for those types of horses is, if you practice and it's stressful, like if you need to make a little run at home or if the horse is being too chargy and you have to do a buncha 1-rein stops or backing or whatever it is, to me it's hard to get through to those horses. I don't wanna have to give a shot every single time I ride. They're not gonna like that. I like reserpine because I give it, watch for some diarrhea, and then I don't have to worry about it for at least 3 more weeks. This way, EVERY ride is calmer, not just the competition ones. After 1 or 2 months, I usually just quit using it and can't tell much difference because they've learned to relax with work. We do have one horse who needed it longer. This is a great tool for problem horses you are rehabbing. I love to ride, and I'll work a horse's tail off and problem horses don't bother me, but I'm not down to get myself killed. :)
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Location: OK | Another thing it's good for is horses that are nervous in the trailer, barn, kept alone, etc.
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| Thank you, she is a very needy horse. Doesn't every want to be left alone. Not naughty about just anxiety. I will do more research on reserpine. |
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The Advice Guru
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| Some people in my area use valerian root soaked in vodka for 3 weeks, they give the vodka before runs.
Someone told me there is lots of info on the net about this.
I have never had to use anything, but if I did I would try a herbal remedy before prescription drugs. |
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