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Location: Washington. (The DRY side.) | crossspur - 2014-02-13 6:55 AM All breeding stallions have to be tested this year before their foals born next spring can be registered
Stallions only have to be done this year if they are breeding 25 or more mares. (In order for their 2015 foals to be registered.) Next year it is ALL stallions. |
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Location: Midwest | casualdust07 - 2014-02-13 11:43 AM We have a HERDA horse in the anatomy lab. it's real. LOL.
come on now, you know it's just rain rot
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 You just got to get mean and mean it.
Location: Arkansas | wyoming barrel racer - 2014-02-13 6:36 AM BARRELHORSE USA - 2014-02-13 12:54 AM Keep in mind AQHA, USC AT DAVIS and Minnesota are the HORSEMAN'S IRS.... they can invent more trash to tax you on than the real IRS ... by way of additional and always increasing fees .... THEY NEVER GET ENOUGH!! I can't understand why anyone would support the 5 panel tests when there are NO realistic horse numbers presented in the reports ..... I almost puked when they said one went all the way back to King P234 ..... another one showed death rate of foals to be more than the death rate of all quarter horses combined ... Another one said a horse would die if temperature was more than 104F ... of course they used 40C in the report since most americans are dumb on how to convert ... C to F .. and this is if they are going to be sedated with those air temperatures present or you could cool them down with water or fans .... duhhhh .... Ask anyone from Arizona why all of their horses are not dead when even nighttime temps stay above 95F with day time >115F .... Of course everyone has seen the one photograph of a bad case of sun/rain scald on a Mississippi or Louisiana horse provided by the dimwit that invented the HERDA DNA nonsense ... and again it traces back to KING P234 THRU POCO BUENO .... PSSM is another fad disease that vets and drug makers are making a mint off of ... instead of telling horse owner to get their horses in shape before they go run the HXXX out of them ... HYPP was created by overdosing Impressive with steroids and the trainers and owners that did it are all in the AQHA HALL OF FAME ... please note that within 4-5 generations or 10 years the occurrence of HYPP is not an issue .... even with the APHA continuing to breed the supposed carriers .... I dare any of you to show pictures and pedigrees of horses that YOU HAVE PERSONALLY SEEN OR OWNED with any of the above .... What you need to be doing is getting rid of all of your barn and house cats that are the principal carriers of EPM ... NOT THE POSSUM ... who carries an entirely different strain that does not affect horses or other livestock ... And on the other hand ... be working on getting rid of the politicians that are embedded in AQHA taking money out of your families budget for meaningless imagined diseases ... and DNA tests ... This 5 panel test is a money grab by everyone involved from your vet all the way to the labs and AQHA ... I am definitely putting in a rule change form to AQHA and APHA for all horses in Colorado and Washington to have drug tests run for medical marijuana exposure or better yet make marijuana legal to be used as a pain and mood / brain changer for all horses in the USA... Where do you get that Herda is made up? Not to mention the others but Herda can be seen with the eye, not just symptoms. Some of the best bred cutting QH stallions in the industry carry this and obviously so do the mares. Until you see the torn skin and loose flappy skin/scars, what you are babbling just sounds ignorant. The one thing they all have in common is multiple traces to King. Do some research before you spew nonsense.
This is the same nut who said that HERDA was Lousiana rain rot! 
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Location: DUMPING CATS AND PIGS IN TEXAS :) | I just want to know why we are picking on Louisiana right now? Is our rain rot different then everyone else's? I feel like we're being discriminated against lol. |
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You just got to get mean and mean it.
Location: Arkansas | LRQHS - 2014-02-13 2:02 PM I just want to know why we are picking on Louisiana right now? Is our rain rot different then everyone else's? I feel like we're being discriminated against lol.
I didn't call it Lousiana swamp/rain rot. Num-nut is the one who named it! Way back when HERDA was first noticed. Yes, he's been around that long.  |
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Location: DUMPING CATS AND PIGS IN TEXAS :) | Lobo - 2014-02-13 2:08 PM LRQHS - 2014-02-13 2:02 PM I just want to know why we are picking on Louisiana right now? Is our rain rot different then everyone else's? I feel like we're being discriminated against lol. I didn't call it Lousiana swamp/rain rot. Num-nut is the one who named it! Way back when HERDA was first noticed. Yes, he's been around that long.
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Shipwrecked and Flat Out Zapped
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Location: DUMPING CATS AND PIGS IN TEXAS :) | Poor Louisiana.....we get all the hurricanes, we can't speak comprehensible English AND NOW, we invented the blasted rain rot....smh..... |
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Location: Iowa | RacingQH - 2014-02-13 12:00 PM crossspur - 2014-02-13 6:55 AM All breeding stallions have to be tested this year before their foals born next spring can be registered Stallions only have to be done this year if they are breeding 25 or more mares. (In order for their 2015 foals to be registered.) Next year it is ALL stallions.
How is it the owners of AQHA stallions are not yet aware that this test needs to be done? I talked to a owner who breeds over 300 mares a year and he didnt know anything about it!! AQHA hasn't mentioned a word to him! |
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Location: Peg-Leg Julia Grimm | I have tested my stallion. N/N across the board. I have sent in the test kits for 2 of my mares and will be testing all of them in time.
I hope it makes a difference to people who buy that both parents will be tested and N/N.  |
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Common Sense and then some
Location: So. California | Louisiana rain rot? That came out of right field...
HERDA:Hereditary equine regional dermal asthenia (HERDA) aka hyperelastosis cutis (HC), is an inherited autosomal recessive connective tissue disorder. It develops from a homozygous recessive mutation that weakens collagen fibers that allow the skin of the animal to stay connected to the rest of the animal. Affected horses have extremely fragile skinthat tears easily and exhibits impaired healing. In horses with HC, the skin separates between the deep and superficial dermis. There is no cure. Most affected individuals receive an injury they cannot heal, and are euthanized. Managed breeding strategy is currently the only option for reducing the incidence of the disease.
The disease is found primarily in the American Quarter Horse, specifically in cutting horse lines. Affected horses have been found to trace to the stallion Poco Bueno, or possibly, farther back to one of his ancestors. HERDA is characterized by abnormal skin along the back that tears or rips easily and heals into disfiguring scars. The skin is loose, and hyper-elastic in affected horses. Symptoms typically don’t appear until the horse is subjected to pressure or injury on their back, neck or hips, usually around two years of age. However foals can show signs when injured, while other horses mature and only show signs in the joints.[2] The expression of HERDA is variable, and the phenotypic range of expression is still being determined. After being tested, the results either show "normal", "carrier" or "affected" and can be determined by DNA testing of either a blood or hair sample. - N/N - Normal: does not have the HERDA gene
- N/HRD- Carrier: carries one copy of the gene
- HRD/HRD- Affected: has two copies of the gene
The expected lifespan of an affected horse is 2–4 years. There is currently no cure for this disease. To prevent it from occurring, the only solution is not to breed horses who both carry the HERDA allele.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hereditary_equine_regional_dermal_asthenia
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Location: Iowa | OregonBR - 2014-02-13 3:30 PM I have tested my stallion. N/N across the board. I have sent in the test kits for 2 of my mares and will be testing all of them in time.
I hope it makes a difference to people who buy that both parents will be tested and N/N.
Were you notified by AQHA that this test is manditory in 2014 for studs that breed over 25 mares? |
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Location: Peg-Leg Julia Grimm | Evittranch - 2014-02-13 1:38 PM OregonBR - 2014-02-13 3:30 PM I have tested my stallion. N/N across the board. I have sent in the test kits for 2 of my mares and will be testing all of them in time.
I hope it makes a difference to people who buy that both parents will be tested and N/N.
No. I found out about it here on BHW. Went and read the new rule on the AQHA website.  |
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Tried and True
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Location: Where I am happiest | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZlWuSOauz98 Here is a video of the famed rain rot called HERDA.
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Common Sense and then some
Location: So. California | daisycake123 - 2014-02-13 7:17 PM Anbody have a stallion.
5 panel tested negative? Is that the question? |
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The Color Specialist
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Location: Washington. (The DRY side.) | Evittranch - 2014-02-13 1:14 PM
RacingQH - 2014-02-13 12:00 PM crossspur - 2014-02-13 6:55 AM All breeding stallions have to be tested this year before their foals born next spring can be registered   Stallions only have to be done this year if they are breeding 25 or more mares. (In order for their 2015 foals to be registered.) Next year it is ALL stallions. How is it the owners of AQHA stallions are not yet aware that this test needs to be done? I talked to a owner who breeds over 300 mares a year and he didnt know anything about it!! AQHA hasn't mentioned a word to him!
It's up to the owners to keep up with new rules. (Rules are changed and new rules implemented every year. I'm talking rules in general, not just as far as breeding goes.) It (talk about 5 panel testing being mandatory.) is in the 2014 rule book and has been on the AQHA website for months. |
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Location: You never know where I will show up...... | Evittranch - 2014-02-13 3:38 PM
OregonBR - 2014-02-13 3:30 PM I have tested my stallion. N/N across the board. I have sent in the test kits for 2 of my mares and will be testing all of them in time. Â
I hope it makes a difference to people who buy that both parents will be tested and N/N. Â
When I got all of my foal registration applications, I also got a letter/brochure with them that said we were going to have to test Firewater Finale for 2014. So that was how I found out. He breeds more mares than our other stallion does, so I am assuming why I got the letter in his foal registrations and not our other stallion's. |
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Location: So. California | Way to go Pitzer Ranch!! They have 5 panel tested all of their stallions and listed results. They are also testing their deceased stallions, and, testing their entire herd of mares!!! It'll take time, but they are committed to the AQHA breed 
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Location: Washington. (The DRY side.) | Anniemae - 2014-02-19 2:15 PM Way to go Pitzer Ranch!! They have 5 panel tested all of their stallions and listed results. They are also testing their deceased stallions, and, testing their entire herd of mares!!! It'll take time, but they are committed to the AQHA breed
6666 Ranch has also tested all of the stallions they stand. Their results are available on their individual pages. (Several of the ranch/performance stallions are NOT N/N across the board, but they are STILL showing their results.) |
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Location: Here | RacingQH - 2014-02-20 12:06 PM Anniemae - 2014-02-19 2:15 PM Way to go Pitzer Ranch!! They have 5 panel tested all of their stallions and listed results. They are also testing their deceased stallions, and, testing their entire herd of mares!!! It'll take time, but they are committed to the AQHA breed
Bravo!
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