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MuddyChestnut
Reg. Sep 2012
Posted 2014-02-13 3:46 PM
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I've got a Frenchman's Guy/Alive N Firen bred filly (http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/sheza+firen+girl), and she's a VERY nice 2YO. Quirky and can buck like a saddle bronc (and ain't afraid to either), and can be a little touchy, but she is the quickest learner I've worked with yet -- just catches on super fast. Real sweet too, and just loves being around people.
She is full of personality, and one of the most confident horses I know -- as a long yearling she kicks around the older horses. Lead mare included!
Definitely not gonna be a horse for a timid rider, but if you treat her like a lady, she is extremely willing to please.
I think she's going to be something else in the barrel pen...but then again I'm biased ;)

I would take another FG any day, if I didn't already have too many horses.

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Runnincat
Reg. Dec 2003
Posted 2014-02-13 3:49 PM
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SaraJean - 2014-02-13 3:08 PM I own two FG grandget. They're definately not the type of horse that will fit anybody. They're very sensitive & responsive. But they're also super gritty, work all day & give you everything they have type of horses. I love both of mine & would definately be willing to own more of them. Only mistake I made as far as FG bred horses are concerned is waiting so long to give one a try!!!

 

I own my first FG granddaughter and feel like Sarah.  Too bad I waited so long to get one.

I'm excited because I am expecting an ASNY baby in May and am breeding my mare in 2014 to Frenchmans Fabulous.  I am having fun with the FG granddaughter.  So VERY smart. 
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ridejg
Reg. Jan 2009
Posted 2014-02-13 3:53 PM
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I vote for FG to be the next face on Mt Rushmore 
 
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hoofs_in_motion
Reg. Apr 2011
Posted 2014-02-13 3:55 PM
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I would seriously sell one of my kidneys to own a daughter of FG.
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anyone wanna buy a kidney? 
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CYA Ranch
Reg. Feb 2008
Posted 2014-02-13 4:59 PM
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ridejg - 2014-02-13 3:53 PM I vote for FG to be the next face on Mt Rushmore 

 

Now you're talking!!!   That is priceless!  
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Itsme
Reg. Jul 2013
Posted 2014-02-13 5:08 PM
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ridejg - 2014-02-13 3:53 PM I vote for FG to be the next face on Mt RushmoreΒ 

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Now you're talking!!! Β  That is priceless! Β 

Too late, I heard Obama made an executive decision to put his face up there...How about crazy frenchman horse?
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WrapN3MN
Reg. Mar 2008
Posted 2014-02-13 5:21 PM
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I think some say it because they are just jealous they can't have one.

We started out with a daughter that was a broodmare and she was really nice to have. Unfortunately we lost her, but she was the most gorgeous mare I laid eyes on.

We have a coming 2 y/o filly that we've raised that has been nothing but wonderful. She's easy going, handles everything well, and loves attention and people.

I recently bought a 3 year old daughter from Myers sale that was riding nice. The first few times I got on her, I was actually kind of scared of her because she knew TOO much. She was extremely responsive, quick, and light. She was so nice that I was freaked out I was going to send her wrong signals and screw her up! Because of Minnesotas awesome winter I probably only get to ride her 1-2x a month and she rides off like a dream. I guess I didn't get a "broncy" one ;) when I do ride her, I feel like I hardly get any ride time in on her.... She does everything I ask so well that I put her away and get on another horse lol.

I think the people that can't get along with them are the type of riders that don't know when to quit. They say if you show them how to do something wrong, it's hard to take that back and show them what's right. They retain EVERYTHING!

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Running Drums
Reg. Sep 2004
Posted 2014-02-13 5:41 PM
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MuddyChestnut - 2014-02-13 3:46 PM I've got a Frenchman's Guy/Alive N Firen bred filly (http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/sheza+firen+girl), and she's a VERY nice 2YO. Quirky and can buck like a saddle bronc (and ain't afraid to either), and can be a little touchy, but she is the quickest learner I've worked with yet -- just catches on super fast. Real sweet too, and just loves being around people. She is full of personality, and one of the most confident horses I know -- as a long yearling she kicks around the older horses. Lead mare included! Definitely not gonna be a horse for a timid rider, but if you treat her like a lady, she is extremely willing to please. I think she's going to be something else in the barrel pen...but then again I'm biased ;) I would take another FG any day, if I didn't already have too many horses.

LOL, I'd say the buck comes from the Alive N Firen side of her pedigree.  I've got one and she'll buck like no other i've sat on.  She is a classy profiling mare and has more natural athletic ability then she knows what to do with. 
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Just Plain Lucky
Reg. Jun 2008
Posted 2014-02-13 5:46 PM
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barrelracr131 - 2014-02-13 2:12 PM (V) (;,,;) (V) Why not Zoidberg?

You win! Here, take all my internets! 
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GhostDancer
Reg. Jun 2005
Posted 2014-02-13 8:01 PM
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daisycake123
Reg. Dec 2006
Posted 2014-02-13 8:24 PM
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I would love to have one but i am scared that there not enough speed wit my mare to make it work. I might call the meyere and ask,them. I just scared i will get a 2-d worker. Which is not,bad at all but i want to try to get a little more speed out of my mare. She was a nice horse:-)and i mis her every day. I know when i start taking my filly that i need something at hime cause someone is going to want my filly as she is a looker and i knowmshe can move. I want one more bad ass horse, as i am 55 years old. My mare is nice i have not riden her in over 3 years and i inow i can get her injected and get her into,shape ride her swin her whatever send her down the alley and the winch will turn.

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casualdust07
Reg. Mar 2005
Posted 2014-02-13 8:40 PM
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I've been really happy with my colt so far. he's a first down french out of a stoli mare. Everything we have done with him has been easy- halter breaking, leading, picking up feet, farrier stuff, vet stuff. All easy. My confederate leader filly has more spunk and fire to her. My colt is an in your pocket type, and she is more of a run around and snort at you..LOL.
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SwishMiss
Reg. Sep 2008
Posted 2014-02-13 8:58 PM
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I've talked to a couple trainers and they have just said he doesn't have the speed to stay away. It depends what you cross him with. Personally for me I like to look at variety and scrolling through stallions and seeing SO many sons at stud is a bit of a turn off. If everyone and they'r mom has one... lol i want something different. That's just me. It seems recently there has been more and more FG offspring that are priced very affordable. I wont NOT buy a horse because of a bloodline, but I'm not going to go look specifically for that line either.
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KatieMac88
Reg. Apr 2012
Posted 2014-02-13 9:04 PM
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I really want a FG baby. I'm considering a FG grandbaby out of either a cowbred (Genuine Doc) mare or a running bred (Dash for Cash) mare. I've been leaning towards the cowbred mare because of looks and size mostly. Their personalities are similar. Since some of you have said FG doesn't always have the speed, would I be better off going with a baby out of the running bred mare?

The goal for the baby would be to be a barrel horse.

Sorry OP I'm not trying to steal the thread, I'm just like you and want to know more about FG babies from those who have been around them.


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casualdust07
Reg. Mar 2005
Posted 2014-02-13 9:14 PM
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I think FG has some potent genetics to make amazing barrel horses. I would like to see him crossed on running mares. I think when crossed on a runner you have the potential for a lethal barrel horse. I just can't deny what he's done for the barrel horse industry. I think his babies have had a ton of success with a variety of different riders. Sure some of them end up in the 2D or slower but if you look at all the big stallions out there, it happens with all of them. Not every single baby out of every single mare will be a star. But the odds are definitely in your favor!!
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BraysEasyKita89
Reg. Apr 2007
Posted 2014-02-13 9:50 PM
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 I have a GD of FG crossed on a Special Effort mare I'm really excited about. From day one she has been a gem. I didn't get the "bronc" everyone talks about either. Smart as a whip and in my pocket. Loves to work, I'd own 5 more if I could!
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rockinas
Reg. Sep 2003
Posted 2014-02-13 9:53 PM
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KatieMac88 - 2014-02-13 9:04 PM I really want a FG baby. I'm considering a FG grandbaby out of either a cowbred (Genuine Doc) mare or a running bred (Dash for Cash) mare. I've been leaning towards the cowbred mare because of looks and size mostly. Their personalities are similar. Since some of you have said FG doesn't always have the speed, would I be better off going with a baby out of the running bred mare?

The goal for the baby would be to be a barrel horse.

Sorry OP I'm not trying to steal the thread, I'm just like you and want to know more about FG babies from those who have been around them.
Not necessarily.  My FG son has won a lot and he is out of a foundation/working bred mare.  He had plenty of speed and his best attribute as a rodeo horse was the athleticism and ability to run stand up on ANY kind of ground.  And there have been several others that have done very well, out of cow bred mares.  A Smooth Guy had a full sister that was a futurity standout, if I remember right.

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Frenchie
Reg. Jan 2006
Posted 2014-02-13 10:40 PM
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cheryl makofka - 2014-02-13 1:10 PM Some have been known to be counterfeit, some people say late to mature, and some say they blow up easy


and just plain pricky.  It's a mind game for everything and they have the will to out last ya.  Gotta start young with them, before they get a stubborn mind of their own.  But then again all the good ones always have a cork or 2 or 3, LOL!!! 
 This is what I had heard also as a reason someone wouldnt be interested in one. Hot minded and easily blown.  Id say it depends what theyre crossed on for sure.

 If we are talking Frenchman Guy sons/dgtrs I can't contribute first hand.  But if we are talking about the Frenchmans Guy bred horses I can say this, we have had and have a pasture full of them.  Not one has been broncy, pricks, easily blown up, hot or anything similar.  But we sure haven't rode everyone out there and maybe they just work for us.
There are going to be ups and downs with any bloodline and the only real way to know about them is to go out and ride a bunch.  Not one for a day or two or based on what people say.  Unfortunately that isn't an option, if it was horse shopping would be a heck of a lot easier!

As for the speed, it might not be there or maybe it is but if you really look at his pedigree he has some run in those lines.
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Lucy's Mom
Reg. Aug 2006
Posted 2014-02-13 11:11 PM
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CYA Ranch - 2014-02-14 1:01 PM They need a job.  I really believe it comes from the Docs Jack Frost, I've had plenty of those over the years.  I love them to death.  In this part of the country a horse has to be tough and these horses will go all day long and work their tail off.   I guess for every one person that is sceered to ride one there's 5 more people that will snatch one up in a heartbeat.  

 A friend of mines grandmother bought a own daughter of DJF out of Hermiston sale many moons ago, that mare IMO opinion was half crazy, but if you could get past that she was crazy athletic.  Honestly I think someone would have gone far with her if they had the time to just mess with her. 
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Rockyroad
Reg. Dec 2003
Posted 2014-02-13 11:36 PM
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CYA Ranch - 2014-02-13 2:01 PM They need a job.  I really believe it comes from the Docs Jack Frost, I've had plenty of those over the years.  I love them to death.  In this part of the country a horse has to be tough and these horses will go all day long and work their tail off.   I guess for every one person that is sceered to ride one there's 5 more people that will snatch one up in a heartbeat.  

 I would say I agree with you Val!  I had a grandson of DJF http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/jet+frost and he was one who needed a job for sure.  Since I am old, he wore me out!  LOL  Katie owns him now and even though he's 20 this year, he is still the energizer bunny!  He is one tough, gritty horse and I have NEVER seen him give up or say he was tired.  He has always been a fun boy tho - barrels, rope both ends, cattle - you name it, Foster would give it a go!
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