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Location: In the Hills of Texas | GoGaited - 2014-02-17 5:52 PM ThreeCorners - 2014-02-17 3:56 PM Nevertooold - 2014-02-17 3:39 PM And the liberal morons dumped good water into the Pacific instead of for irrigation because of some bait fish..I do believe they want to destroy this country. One said we could import our food. Makes sense...we finally are getting off of be dependant on the Middle East for oil so now they want us to be dependant on our food from some 3rd world country. Brilliant. I read an article that said California HAD in place resivoirs and holding tank's that would supply water for farmers for 5 years in the case of severe drought like now. The liberal idiots at the helm dismantled it all and lets it flow into the Pacific all for that stupid little smelt bait fish.
They hold high offices in our government so I thought calling them Liberals was being nice and politically correct. Kerry has declared Global warming worse then Weapons of Mass Destruction. It's not global warming but the fools like him and Obama that hold office. |
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| Anniemae - 2014-02-17 4:26 PM
I'm very worried about the lack of rainfall and the water fights I see coming. It's going to be a disaster for our state, and it will have a huge impact on the country as a whole. California produces roughly 25% of the nations citrus crop (Florida is number 1), 45% of the nations fresh vegtables, and 21% of milk/milk products among many, many other food sources. We have received very little to no rain and those **** smelt are now getting all the farmers water - WTH? Where is common sense? Time to start another letter writing campaign to the idiots in DC...  In addition, they are also projecting up to 30% of our fields to lay barren this year due to lack of rainfall/water restrictions. This will have a HUGE impact on food prices all across the country! LA County has already started to ask for voluntary water conservation and the next step is manditory. Several counties in central California are doing the same, and some are trying to pushing through manditory restrictions now.
I don't even want to think about hay prices for cattle and horses. 
Down here in San Diego a few years ago they made all of the avocado growers kill off 10% of their orchards to conserve water. I wonder what they are going to force them to do now since it seems as if the water situation is even worse. CA is in bad shape...we are the 5th largest agricultural industry in the WORLD. And now we are not only competing with each other as ranchers and farmers for hay, but also with our best friend...China. Friggin awesome! |
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Location: Where the pavement ends and the West begins Utah | Yep, I am afraid this country will turn into " Mad Max" "under world" "Running Man" and Robo Cop. History always repeats itself we just don't know which order will come first. Be very afraid. You know cause and effect. |
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Thank you for sharing the link and those stats. It pretty much sums up what we out west have been worrying about for the last few years. If people think the economy is rocky now, just wait until they see the food prices 6 months from now. This is not a government conspiracy, this is mother nature playing havoc with one of our country's major food sources.
Don't even know where the water is going to come from as there is so little to divide up between so many. Time to get down to the basics, drinking water and agriculture/ranching. All else needs to take a backseat, period. This should not be open to negotiation/special interest groups/fish/frogs or owls.
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Location: So. California | ThreeCorners - 2014-02-17 1:56 PM Nevertooold - 2014-02-17 3:39 PM And the liberal morons dumped good water into the Pacific instead of for irrigation because of some bait fish..I do believe they want to destroy this country. One said we could import our food. Makes sense...we finally are getting off of be dependant on the Middle East for oil so now they want us to be dependant on our food from some 3rd world country. Brilliant. I read an article that said California HAD in place resivoirs and holding tank's that would supply water for farmers for 5 years in the case of severe drought like now. The liberal idiots at the helm dismantled it all and lets it flow into the Pacific all for that stupid little smelt bait fish.
Some of this did occur, but the reality of it is that our reservoirs/storage tanks have all but dried up over the past couple years due to lack or rain/snow. How the heck do you fill these up with a few inches of rain a year? We desperately needed at least an average rainfall this year and we got nothing but a few sprinkles. 
We've had a little over 1" of rain during the "season" in the city that I live. The season started July 1st. Average is just shy of 15" Dry as a bone around here!!
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| Don't you just hate it when the Indians lay claim to something that has 'belonged' to others for hundreds of years?!? Do you read this stuff before you post it? |
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Location: Where I am happiest | rawhide - 2014-02-18 5:37 AM Don't you just hate it when the Indians lay claim to something that has 'belonged' to others for hundreds of years?!? Do you read this stuff before you post it? This was last year when they turned off the irrigation water to the farmers and ranchers in the Klamath Basin due to the Indians getting the water. The farmers and ranchers got together, and descended on the town of Klamath Falls. Virtually shutting the town down, with all their horns blowing, driving from the fairgrounds all the way through town to the courthouse. Klamath County IS a county centered around farming and ranching with HUGE ranches. It is the only industry there. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HpBwZuxfukI
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Location: Where I am happiest | rawhide - 2014-02-18 5:37 AM Don't you just hate it when the Indians lay claim to something that has 'belonged' to others for hundreds of years?!? Do you read this stuff before you post it?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SP3TGkcye9g Here is the news story. |
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Location: Where I am happiest | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yhBnslWapIc |
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Location: 100 miles from Nowhere, AR | I don't think a lot of people realize how serious water issues are getting all over the country. Even here, where we have tons of excess surface water, we don't have any way to store it for use. And our ground water is getting badly depleted. The ground water situation is even worse in some areas than it is here. There are projects to harness surface water that have been stuck in the planning stages for years because of lack of money.
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | I live in Minnesota where you can be blindfolded and throw a rock in any random direction and there's a 50:50 chance of hitting water. I have to confess that never in my life have I ever thought of the concept of literally running out of water.
When I lived in the Caribbean, everyone depends on cisterns that capture and hold rain water. That's the way it's always been there. I wonder if people are considering that option.
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| I personally dont think that hay prices, especially in my area are ever going to exceed $200 a ton. The market cant afford it to be any higher. The primary hay purchaser is the dairy industry and if prices go higher it will force the milk producers out of business. The foreign markets couldn't support higher prices either. I think we are safe as far as feed prices go. |
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| I thought EPA scientists were like Gods to you guys? Oh really, you dont know how much power they have? No surprise.
Buh bye, im off to huff some mold!
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| HotbearLVR - 2014-02-18 9:10 AM
I live in Minnesota where you can be blindfolded and throw a rock in any random direction and there's a 50:50 chance of hitting water. I have to confess that never in my life have I ever thought of the concept of literally running out of water.
When I lived in the Caribbean, everyone depends on cisterns that capture and hold rain water. That's the way it's always been there. I wonder if people are considering that option.
This is depressing.
I think the idea is right, but, what happens when you are so far behind in rainfall in a region that there literally is no water to capture?
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | This thread just serves to illustrate how most people don't really give a rats ass about the direction this country is headed.......UNTIL it effects them personally. Then, all of a sudden, people are up in arms. ObamaCare has stirred the masses like nothing before it because people are starting to realize the extent to which it is disrupting this country. People are seeing how this effects the job market, insurance premiums, and the economy in general. As long as an individual's Ox isn't gored, that individual generally doesn't care. Well, now most people are effected. Different things seem to get people up in arms. For some, it may be jobs. For others it's the cost of healthcare. For others, it's the cost of fuel and the scarcity of water. For other's it's a matter of being able to afford to feed their horses. This is not some crisis that has developed overnight. It's been decades in the making.
It seems to me that the sheer number and weight of all these crises is finally beginning to reach critical mass. People from both ends of the political spectrum are beginning to realize we are living under a tyrannical regime where a President has assumed the mantle of supreme ruler. To make matters worse, we have a situations where the inmates are running the asylum........the "takers" outnumber the producers and providers.
I really think it is going to require a huge crisis of epic proportions to teach this country the lesson we ought to have learned long ago. |
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | lindseylou2290 - 2014-02-18 9:30 AM
HotbearLVR - 2014-02-18 9:10 AM
I live in Minnesota where you can be blindfolded and throw a rock in any random direction and there's a 50:50 chance of hitting water. I have to confess that never in my life have I ever thought of the concept of literally running out of water.
When I lived in the Caribbean, everyone depends on cisterns that capture and hold rain water. That's the way it's always been there. I wonder if people are considering that option.
This is depressing.
I think the idea is right, but, what happens when you are so far behind in rainfall in a region that there literally is no water to capture?
Just thinking, not arguing
When they have gone through drought, they relied on desalinization plants for water, even on small islands. |
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Location: In The Land of Cotton | Not only have the avocado farmers pulled/cut down trees, the almond farmers are also starting to do the same thing. We have some friends who have pecan farms here in GA and almond's and produce farms in the Valley in CA. They are saying that they are not going to be able to plant as much produce as they want and are cutting trees.
We are going to be a big farming convention this weekend and some of the speakers are from out West. It will be interesting to hear what they have to say about the long range forecast. |
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Location: Kentucky | I so, so wish that I could box this rain and snow up and send it out west. My barn flooded last night because the moisture has no where to go. Our ground is too saturated. |
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Location: Where I am happiest | HotbearLVR - 2014-02-18 9:10 AM I live in Minnesota where you can be blindfolded and throw a rock in any random direction and there's a 50:50 chance of hitting water. I have to confess that never in my life have I ever thought of the concept of literally running out of water. When I lived in the Caribbean, everyone depends on cisterns that capture and hold rain water. That's the way it's always been there. I wonder if people are considering that option. This is depressing.
Doc, thats like the Klamath Basin. There is ALOT of bodies of water there. However, the state is run by Democrats and is very divided between the cities ie: Portland, Salem, Eugene, and the east side of the state which is your conservative farmers and ranchers. Same division Ca. see's but the idiots in the cities keep voting in these dems and they seem to think that food just grows on the grocery store shelf. Then we have the environmentalists and animal activests that want to save every little species. Even if it's something completely useless in the grand scheme of things. Then we add the indians, now the severe drought, and the farmers and ranchers are dead last. The city idiots will water their lawns and golf courses first and always.
Not only is our grocery bill, beef and produce and dairy going to sky rocket, and feed prices, but the economic impact, loss of jobs and revenue has a HUGE trickle down effect. Not just the farmers and ranchers out, but then add farm workers, ranch hands, equipment/tractor companies and sales, fertalizer, trucking to truck all the farm goods and equipment, ect ect ect.
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Location: ND--it snows, it floods, it snows, it floods | I feel for you guys out west. It's not going to be pretty at all, I hate to say it but I see the 30's coming back and that scares the ever living crap out of me. |
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