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Location: Oklahoma | I used to be VERY anti-Hancock, but have tempered that view somewhat and now do not say I won't own one. It will depend on what Hancock lines they have and how old and how they've been handled. I do like the bone on them and most of their looks, if they don't have the big common head. There's certain Hancock lines I like better than others. I think what anyone needs to know when they buy a horse with those bloodlines is that these horses were bred for a job. They are not a good horse for a weekend warrior that just wants to ride on the weekend. IMO they need consistent riding and using to be happy, successful horses and I think that's how they've gotten a bad rap. There's a lot of Hancock bred horses that have made it to the NFR in different events and obviously they're great ranch horses, and a lot of them can really run, so if you go into it KNOWING that they're going to need a LOT of riding, you'll be fine. I do admire a good Hancock horse, but unless they're old and seasoned, they don't fit with my program, and I can't afford the old seasoned ones. lol. I don't like to ride a lot since I'm old. Racehorses that are bred to walk on the walker and be run once in two weeks fit my program better. lol
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Location: SW MO | Like all horses it depends on which Joe Hancock line you are talking about, There are lines I love & lines I don't. It also depends on what other line they are crossed with & who has ridden and who has trained them so people can make an idiot out of any horse. Also do you just have one line to Joe Hancock 6 gen back but your still calling it a Hancock? This happens a lot people just pick one name out of a pedigree and decided it's all the lines fault. This is Rafter Blu we have owned him since he was a yearling he is 15 this April. He is mostly Blue Valentine bred. He has 22 crosses to Joe Hancock. He is a big baby anyone can ride him. You can leave him out in the pasture for months with the mares go get him saddle him up and ride off. He rides with other horses and acts better than a lot people's geldings. He has produced several really good USTRC Rope horses, some barrel horses, even a couple of cutting horses & 3 yrs ago a daughter of his won reserve champion in the MO State Timed Events. His babies are gentle & very easy to train
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| Cross Spur I'm in love!! Very nice and I couldn't agree with you more!! |
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Location: Kansas | Here is the hancock mare I used to own, beautiful big grey filly. But OMG she was a monster
http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/thirteen+m+dusty+leo
She would reach out and bite the heck out of me. I ate dirt every time I tried to ride her...so I sent her to a trainer...and she broke his arm after the first week she was there....unfortunately I had to put her down because of how mean she was. I don't know if it was the hancock in her....or if it was the breeders fault since they had 50 other horses with her, who beat her up badly.
Now I had a really nice big bay gelding who was hancock bred, never bucked when broke out and he was smarter than a whip! I sure do miss that big bay boy!
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Location: Louisiana | I have a 8 year old hancock gelding that is awesome! He is a true gem! I have owned since he was three and I have never had an issues with him. He is laid back and very easy going. He is a 2d/3d horse that is as solid as they come. My son team ropes on him, both heading and heeling and my husband uses him as a flag horse when he judges. He will also run a pretty good set of poles.
However I know that some of the Hancock bred horses can be a little tough. Gunner is Hancock on the dam side and Playgun on the sire side.
 
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Location: The barn...where else? SW Missouri | I just recently bought my first Hancock bred horse and I love her so far. I bought her the first of December before the snow hit and so haven't really gotten to do much with her since our winter has been miserable. I have worked her on the ground when it's not slick and so far she is very willing and super smart. She rode very quiet when I tried her and hadn't been ridden in about 4 months. Absolutely no buck or hump at all. She was started right though, so thats a big help. I'm excited to see how she comes along. This was taken the night we brought her home. She's a big girl at a little over 15.3 hands. She's a big gentle giant.
http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/w+lady+drift+dandy
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Rad Dork
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Location: Oklahoma | 
Here is my 16 year old guy!
He also doubles as a llama impersonator.
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Rad Dork
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Location: Oklahoma | SHORTHORSE - 2014-02-19 11:35 AM I have a 8 year old hancock gelding that is awesome! He is a true gem! I have owned since he was three and I have never had an issues with him. He is laid back and very easy going. He is a 2d/3d horse that is as solid as they come. My son team ropes on him, both heading and heeling and my husband uses him as a flag horse when he judges. He will also run a pretty good set of poles.
However I know that some of the Hancock bred horses can be a little tough. Gunner is Hancock on the dam side and Playgun on the sire side.
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Location: Great NW | Love Love Love my Hancocks, they are smart, solid, friendly, reliable, dependable, athletic, good bone, retain training , powerful and above all they have HEART.
I am sure I can come up with a few more positive defining words. I only have a couple that do not have any Hancock in them. Once I got my first one - I have not strayed too far. |
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| Longneck - 2014-02-19 7:46 AM
I have a 16 year old gelding and I love him to pieces. He likes to keep to himself, but with a few treats he won't leave you alone.
I didn't break him or train him, so I can't speak for that.
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Location: Oklahoma | brlraceaddict - 2014-02-19 12:30 PM Longneck - 2014-02-19 7:46 AM I have a 16 year old gelding and I love him to pieces. He likes to keep to himself, but with a few treats he won't leave you alone.
I didn't break him or train him, so I can't speak for that. Is this the same 16-year old that is naughty and disrespectful in the round pen?
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Location: LouLouVille, OK | I can't seem to get enough Hancock in my pasture... I love them! Easily trained, but if you take your time and drill it in there slow and correct, you won't have to retrain um ;)
Mine are VERY personal, very in your business, very playful, they have the best personalities.
IMHO you can't beat the bone and foot and level headedness on them.
Now if your gonna blame Hancock who is probably 10 generations back for one that bucks? Im wavin the BS flag on it... Hancock himself NEVER bucked... the mares brought to him did.
Mine have been easy to start and finish and a ball in between :)
 Good luck!
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| My friends have owned many Hancock bred horses and they were super tough, go all day-durable horses. The general consensus was they were unpredictable and bucked hard at times.
I was in your situation back in August. Found a 8 year old buckskin roan, gorgeous gelding. He came from Wyoming and had many miles put on him. I was hesitant because he was Hancock bred, but I went ahead and purchased him. Was riding him 2 weeks after we bought him and a dog ran out of the woods behind him and he unleashed. He didn't just buck, but he snapped. He was so powerful that he flung me over his head. After a severe concussion and stitches, the previous owner was so gracious to take him back.
My husband's horse has Hancock on his papers and he is the kindest, most solid riding horse.
I wouldn't go out of my way to buy one, but that is just me. So many other bred horses I would rather have!
That being said I think Hancock horses can be great, gritty, hard-working horses. They are just super powerful and I have heard they can be unpredictable. Once you break them, they are usually really nice horses though!
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| I thought of situations like that but this filly isn't 2 yet so she is still learning whats what. I don't think I'm worried about the bucking as much as the non- personable attitude that I have seen and heard about. Mine are very in your pocket, take me, show me horses |
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Location: Somewhere else | I've got one that the first barrel race I took her to she flipped over on her back when I started to get on, so I just thought that the saddle might have pinched her or something. Redo everything get on & she is fine. I've not found a bit that she likes yet so we're working on it. And no I've not done hardly anything with her this winter because of the weather. Easy to catch, sweet mare, take her out to just brush her up & turn her back out. the next time, do the same thing and saddle her & she freaks, pulls back at the trailer. So off to the round pen we go, I take her in & she has the bit on but i take the reins off & she takes off flying around the pen.....I'm just standing in the middle waiting for her to finally get it out of her system. It's kinda wet so yes she does do a little slipping but Hey, she is the one running, never asked her to. Hubby is yelling to catch her before she falls and breaks a leg. finally get her stopped, unsaddle her, she is fine, no problem. I reckon it's just because I hadn't really done anything with her in a while. Really hoping that's what it is cause she is a super nice barrel horse. Beautiful red roan....love her to death but I can't handle the crazy stuff. |
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Ms Bling Bling Sleeze Kitty
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Location: LouLouVille, OK | Blueridgedreaming - 2014-02-19 1:26 PM My friends have owned many Hancock bred horses and they were super tough, go all day-durable horses. The general consensus was they were unpredictable and bucked hard at times. I was in your situation back in August. Found a 8 year old buckskin roan, gorgeous gelding. He came from Wyoming and had many miles put on him. I was hesitant because he was Hancock bred, but I went ahead and purchased him. Was riding him 2 weeks after we bought him and a dog ran out of the woods behind him and he unleashed. He didn't just buck, but he snapped. He was so powerful that he flung me over his head. After a severe concussion and stitches, the previous owner was so gracious to take him back. My husband's horse has Hancock on his papers and he is the kindest, most solid riding horse. I wouldn't go out of my way to buy one, but that is just me. So many other bred horses I would rather have! That being said I think Hancock horses can be great, gritty, hard-working horses. They are just super powerful and I have heard they can be unpredictable. Once you break them, they are usually really nice horses though!
Glad your ok, I had one do that to me twice and he didn't have a ounce of Hancock in him... and his owner didn't want him back... go figure...
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Rad Dork
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Location: Oklahoma | No to hijack the thread... but would mane/tail growth have anything to do with genetics?
I'm pretty sure mine is double bred. His mane can't seem to grown, but his tail almost touches the gound! We bought him when he was 8 and didn't have much of mane, but I just thought they might have trimmed it. |
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Location: Louisiana | Longneck - 2014-02-19 1:54 PM No to hijack the thread... but would mane/tail growth have anything to do with genetics?
I'm pretty sure mine is double bred. His mane can't seem to grown, but his tail almost touches the gound! We bought him when he was 8 and didn't have much of mane, but I just thought they might have trimmed it.
My guy has a very long mane and tail |
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| Added her pedigree please tell what you think |
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Ms Bling Bling Sleeze Kitty
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Location: LouLouVille, OK | RoaniePonie11 - 2014-02-19 2:46 PM Added her pedigree please tell what you think
your link didn't attach but here http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/peptos+red+hobby
Ive never owned, but know some peppy san badgers could be waspy... Im not sayin they all are, as I have had friends with super gentle ones too... but I honestly like the pedigree on that pony myself :) if you have time and patience for a colt I would take the chance :) |
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