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Location: Oklahoma | We register everything born on our place ... I dont understand why people would not. We bought two yearling colts last year because we owned the mamas ... neither were registered so we had to pay more to register them but we dang sure got it done.
So silly not to ... re sale, identification, stallion/owner records, etc ... I dont get it. its $30 up to 7 months of age. |
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Location: Midwest Farmer's Daughter: Central Illinois | All of our foals are registered with the exception of two & that was because my dad was simply too busy/lazy to do it. Now they're five.
I don't see any reason not to register a foal. Period.
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Location: lone star state | This is a very interesting post!
I'm not a breeder but have came across lots of nice horses in the past couple of years with breeders certificates but no papers. By the time a 2-3 year old comes into my hands that is not broke and not papered, you have to wonder why no one bothered to paper them? Horses have very little value without a job anymore and genetics play a large role in me deciding if I want to spend my time and money to make a horse out of them...really frustrating to see so many potential nice prospects with no current papers.
I think that a lot of the reason is AQHA has gone up on their fees and their customer service is terrible at best! As for APHA I won't even go there..
Sad that nice horses are loosing more value because of paperwork issues :(
Maybe its time someone started new group..... |
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Location: The edge of no where | Why in the world would you not register one? You're making the horse worth much less for the rest of it's life by not doing it.
(This coming from someone that thinks transferring gelding that you're not going to do AQHA stuff with is pointless) |
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Location: Texas | I don't get it either. With my two babies that were born last year, the filly we registered I think before she was 2 months old. She was a solid sorrel filly so it wasn't a waiting game to see if markings would get more clear in a picture, or if they were going to shed out into another color.
My colt most definitely was before he was 6 months old. He was also sorrel, but was starting to show a coon tail and roan flanks so I waited a little bit to see where all the rabicano hairs would show up.
I also typically have names picked out before they are born, and get the final one decided soon after they are born. I don't want the names getting taken between now and then so I fill out the paperwork ASAP. I would hate to wait around until they were a year or more and then not get the name I wanted.
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Location: Peg-Leg Julia Grimm | I don't get it either. I register everything I raise out of my mares before they are 7 months old. I also pay them in full to the breeders incentive we have up here. So when they sell they are ready to go.
True story: I bought a daughter of FWF that wasn't registered until she was 5. The people I bought her from never transferred her into their names, yet she had a NICE filly by Draws A Crowd while they owned her. They still have the filly, who to this day isn't registered. I told them I would buy that filly from them, but the paperwork had to be in order. Nothing but crickets.... I don't get it.  |
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Location: SE Oklahoma | I know an older gentlemen that got irritated with AQHA and now doesn't believe in papers. It's a shame because he has really nice, well built horses with no papers to prove they're anything. He still breeds them and raises them. But never registers anything. Such a waste. |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | To me if someone is breeding then its their responsibility to get these babys register. 
I guess the one that disliked my post is one of the lazy ones, hope that your not a breeder.
Edited by Southtxponygirl 2014-02-25 11:28 AM
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Location: ND | i don't register any foals until i wean in the fall....some don't make it, so it is a waste for me do do it on every one that is born each year......and i've sold both way as well, with and without registering.....if i happen to sell one before weaning i used to not bother registering them myself....now i tend to like to name them, which is the only reason..... i don't think papers mean much to a lot of people so i'm not surprised to hear that some don't show up.....i think it's probably even less that get transferred even if they are registered.....at least once or twice a year i get a call or letter about a horse from here that someone is trying to transfer and is having trouble tracking down everything and if i could just do a new transfer for them.....if it's not too much hassle for me, i don't mind.....i usually have a few little demands first though...lol
Edited by dhdqhllc 2014-02-25 11:41 AM
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| If you don't believe in your program enough to spend $30 on it, why would anyone else? The whole "I love this colt and he'll never leave me" arguement doesn't do much for me either. Life has a way of changing and there are pages of for sale ads that start with "Never thought I'd sell him but due to circumsances". Now that horse is cast to the wind with a lot less chance at a future. Pretty simple and cheap insurance in giving that colt some hope in the future.
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Location: ND | i would bet that alot, if not most, quarter horse colts are sold on application...... |
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Location: Mendenhall, Ms | We register everything before 6 months of age. I don't want to give the AQHA any more money than I have too. I want all colts I sell to have papers and a negative coggins test in hand when they leave the place. |
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Location: You never know where I will show up...... | I guess I am not only speaking as a stallion owner, but also as a mare owner.
Every foal that could be registered and isn't (for whatever reason!) hurts not only stallion stats but also mare stats.
Who wants to buy a broodmare that didn't have foals registered?
Registering the foals is the only way really to prove what a mare has had.
What a mare has produced a lot of times is the difference in a valuable broodmare and one that is pretty much has no value.
So not only does it affect the stallions sire stats, it affects the value of the broodmare and obviously the value of the foal. By several thousand dollars in some cases.
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Location: ND | rockinas - 2014-02-25 11:48 AM I guess I am not only speaking as a stallion owner, but also as a mare owner.
Every foal that could be registered and isn't (for whatever reason!) hurts not only stallion stats but also mare stats.
Who wants to buy a broodmare that didn't have foals registered?
Registering the foals is the only way really to prove what a mare has had.
What a mare has produced a lot of times is the difference in a valuable broodmare and one that is pretty much has no value.
So not only does it affect the stallions sire stats, it affects the value of the broodmare and obviously the value of the foal. By several thousand dollars in some cases.
that is very true......
and just to note, i just started paging through the hermanson sale and out of the first 20 head, 7 are grade.....broke though... |
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| dhdqhllc - 2014-02-25 11:43 AM
i would bet that alot, if not most, quarter horse colts are sold on application......
The thing that worries me is yes you can sell a horse with application, but that doesn't mean aqha will register the horse.
Looked at a direct daughter of judge cash, application was signed, aqha would not register this horse due to her being over age of 5 and mother was not dead and no DNA on file.
If the application is all hand written, unless you call aqha to verify, the seller may be selling you one who does not have the application in order, no DNA, no stallion report, etc.
I would rather pay a little more for the papers then the application. Too many crooked people, or backyard breeders that don't know what they are doing |
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Location: You never know where I will show up...... | dhdqhllc - 2014-02-25 11:50 AM
and just to note, i just started paging through the hermanson sale and out of the first 20 head, 7 are grade.....broke though...
Wow! Ranch type geldings I assume? |
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Location: Sweet Home Alabama | I bought a 3 yo (2009) mare in July 2012 with the intentions of running her. The next January I found out she was pregnant. I called the guy I bought her from & he said they did breed her but she never checked in foal. We did the DNA test, took pics, & sent the $ to get her registered but we can't proceed without the breeders signature & for some reason, he wont sign. He wont return my calls or letters. AQHA has contacted him but still nothing.... She's such a nice filly. It's really frustrating.
Here's her pedigree-
http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/chromed+out+bunny |
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Location: You never know where I will show up...... | Ashton94 - 2014-02-25 12:06 PM I bought a 3 yo (2009 ) mare in July 2012 with the intentions of running her. The next January I found out she was pregnant. I called the guy I bought her from & he said they did breed her but she never checked in foal. We did the DNA test, took pics, & sent the $ to get her registered but we can't proceed without the breeders signature & for some reason, he wont sign. He wont return my calls or letters. AQHA has contacted him but still nothing.... She's such a nice filly. It's really frustrating. Here's her pedigree- http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/chromed+out+bunny
Now that is a really crappy deal. |
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Location: ND | rockinas - 2014-02-25 11:56 AM dhdqhllc - 2014-02-25 11:50 AM
and just to note, i just started paging through the hermanson sale and out of the first 20 head, 7 are grade.....broke though... Wow! Ranch type geldings I assume?
pretty much....
i see there is an FF gelding at the start of day 2 |
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Location: Wearing a winter coat...... | I register all of mine and usually before they are 3 months old. I can't keep quiet on the names I choose for them ..... then I worry someone will steal my name!! I had wanted to name my last colt "Fifty Shades of Bay" and someone took it so he ended up " Fifty Shades Of Fame" which in the end, was better IMO. Like everyone else, I am cheap too but that is why I do it FAST! There is a breeder up here that has a nice stud. Lots of nice babies but not a 1 registered. Sad deal! |
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