bccanchaser16 - 2014-02-28 4:36 PM I'd definitely breed to a Supreme Champion. I had a pleasure horse (HYPP positive actually) and he taught me the value of all-around horses. He was a jack of all trades, master of none type of horse (except Showmanship) but had points in a lot of different events. Sometimes I'd take a jack of all trades horse over a master of none but that's just me. Depends on the stud though. But I would agree that today it would be a heck of a lot easier to halter point with the Performance Halter they have now.

OregonBR - 2014-02-28 4:48 PM All Supreme Champions are racebred. There's no way any other discipline is going to run a SI 90 or higher twice to begin the process of earning a Supreme Championship.  The only one that maybe could is a barrel bred horse.  FG sired a AAA stallion and he's pretty enough to be a Supreme Champion if they chose to try it.  I don't see it helping him though. Because the only people who would breed are barrel racers and we don't care about him being a Supreme Champion.   

OregonBR - 2014-02-28 4:53 PM Nope they don't have to win.  Just run a SI 90 or above 2x.  I do not remember any Supreme Champions that weren't racebred.  Can you find a list somewhere? We can see if I'm right.  

OregonBR - 2014-02-28 4:59 PM WBR those are all racebred horses.  All of their parents were race horses.   

wyoming barrel racer - 2014-02-28 6:00 PM You would think it would be easy to find, but I have looked all day and nada. It's a pretty big honor in AQHA, I would think they would have a list. I found one with all the Supreme Race horses. 

wyoming barrel racer - 2014-02-28 3:45 PM Thank you for your post. For AQHA show All Arounders, I have only seen 2 type of horses. The western style that kick booty at WPleasure, Horsemanship and Trail and Showmanship and then may place in the Eng Eq and HUS...then there is the English horse that wins the HUS, Eng Eq and may place in the pleasure, horsemanship and trail. And of course Showmanship. But none in the standings are race bred (not counting the race bred english sires-Two Thumbs Up, Last Detail etc). And none are cutting/reining bred.



My best old horse was like you describe. He could do any event from pleasure to barrels to jumping, but wasn't a Champion in any. He just was smart enough and sound enough to do it all. 



I like that Fly the Red Eye or whatever his name is. I didn't look to see what his race earnings are, but she advertises in barrel racing and Speedhorse so I imagine even with his "other" events, he will get a chance to make a barrel sire and maybe even race sire.



So I'm thinking with the Supreme Champion horses, wouldn't it be better to advertise them and pay them into barrel racing and racing incentives vs trying to market them to AQHA show peeps? Gotta Good Habit is a 1/2 sibling to Champion Old Habits. His dam is a heck of a producer and he is by Strawfly Special. If he were Future Fortunes,  I think he would get some interest???? 

OregonBR - 2014-02-28 2:03 PM Good topic!



 And by the way. The only reason you're seeing Supreme Champions again is because they are not showing against the "halter horse" that has become the standard for that discipline.  There is no way a racebred horse would be able to beat a real halter bred horse.  That's how screwed up AQHA shows have become. Again IMO

bccanchaser16 - 2014-02-28 4:58 PM  Mine was the first all-around horse as you described. He had points in showmanship, halter (laughed at that one), trail, WP, horsemanship and I think I even got a .5 or so in reining off of him. And a 21 sec pole horse. Won a couple open show HUS classes. I miss him.



I looked up the recent Supreme horses and Fly the Red Eye caught my eye. Definitely on my radar if I was ever to bred my reining-bred mare. I like the fact that he got points in heeling and reining. Cartel Caliente looked nice in the one picture I saw of him but I didn't find much info on him other than JD Yates was the one to qualify him in heading. Gotta Good Habit had points in HUS and heading.

bbennington - 2014-03-01 12:22 PM we have a daughter out of AQHA supreme champion Lucks Easyfanta boy. She proved herself in the barrels and poles. Also has a great mind but she is not what people are looking for as a broodmare. http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/unique+fantasy

Three 4 Luck - 2014-03-01 12:36 PM


Those are the bloodlines I've won the most on.  One was bred backwards from Lucks easyfanta boy with EJ and Lightening Bar on top out of a daughter of Lucks Gay Chic. The other was Easy Jet on top out of a Three Chicks/Leo mare.   I really liked that stallion but it seemed like he wasn't promoted much for all the work they put in.