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| NICE mare! Like others, I have my own opinions about ASOF babies. It's not so much their conformation, it's the attitude. The ones I've been around aren't mean, but they definitely have a bit of an attitude and that seems to be consistent no matter what the dam line is. If she was my mare and was hoping to get the style of turn you want, I'd take her to either Darkelly, Oh Whatta Boy, or Perks Alive. |
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Location: Wonderful Wyoming | Oakley - 2014-03-12 9:55 PM I have had 2 ASOF offspring and I LOVE THEM!
One of them is 16.2 and beautiful! His momma was a buckskin DTF mare, and he is kind of a buckskin/grulla roan. If I could post pictures from my iPad I would, but it says my picture is to big.
The other one is just a yearling out of a cow bred mare so not sure how big he will get but I love his attitude so far! Both are very laid back and easy to get along with.
long back or not, he's a proven producer!
He is and they win. But the beauty of it, is there is a stallion out there for everyone. Different strokes for different folks. I just don't want to walk out every day and look at an ugly horse (no matter how he is bred). I like what I like. She wanted thoughts on ASOF and is getting the good and the bad. In the end, it is still her choice to make, but now she has maybe some more + and - to help her make her choice. There are stallions out there with the WHOLE package, disposition, conformation, pedigree and proven sire. If I ever get my husband to let me AI again, Oh boy! I don't even know where I would start. |
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Location: You never know where I will show up...... | jenagarwood - 2014-03-12 9:27 PM This thought always comes to my mind when people on BHW are talking about ASOF's longer back, or being smaller....so for once I am just going to get it off my chest. Unless you want a halter horse--pretty is as pretty does. And they win! I agree Jena. People have to find something to pick on. With DTF it was always his head. A winner is a winner to me. I've had some pretty ugly ones myself that suddenly became beautiful in the winners circle.
To the OP, I had an ASOF out of a working bred mare. She was super nice, very athletic, good minded. Her only problem (for me) is that she never grew up. She was 14 hands. I sold her to a more petite rider who is getting along with her great!
I bred one of my DTF daughters to ASOF and we are expecting a foal towards the end of the month.
I bred as an investment. His foals bring 3-4X what the stud fee is. Whether you are breeding for yourself or to sell, I would say he is one of the best investments for the money right now on the stud fee. So go for it.
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| rockinas - 2014-03-13 9:23 AM
jenagarwood - 2014-03-12 9:27 PM This thought always comes to my mind when people on BHW are talking about ASOF's longer back, or being smaller....so for once I am just going to get it off my chest. Unless you want a halter horse--pretty is as pretty does. And they win! I agree Jena. People have to find something to pick on. With DTF it was always his head. A winner is a winner to me. I've had some pretty ugly ones myself that suddenly became beautiful in the winners circle.
To the OP, I had an ASOF out of a working bred mare. She was super nice, very athletic, good minded.  Her only problem (for me) is that she never grew up. She was 14 hands. I sold her to a more petite rider who is getting along with her great!
IÂ bred one of my DTF daughters to ASOF and we are expecting a foal towards the end of the month.
I bred as an investment. His foals bring 3-4X what the stud fee is.  Whether you are breeding for yourself or to sell, I would say he is one of the best investments for the money right now on the stud fee. So go for it.Â
I could not agree more with your statement. The one thing I would add is every time one of these threads comes up on ASOF every one states his back is to long. I have seen him on two different times in person with tack on and off. In my opinion when you compare his top line against his bottom line he is not to long. He does have more mass in person than he shows in his pictures and his legs maybe a little short for his body type. But dollar for dollar I think he is an excellent investment. The other stud option I would add to the OP is On A Gator 1500 fee colts average 13000 and the ones I have seen are vary nice.
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| rockinas - 2014-03-13 9:23 AM
jenagarwood - 2014-03-12 9:27 PM This thought always comes to my mind when people on BHW are talking about ASOF's longer back, or being smaller....so for once I am just going to get it off my chest. Unless you want a halter horse--pretty is as pretty does. And they win! I agree Jena. People have to find something to pick on. With DTF it was always his head. A winner is a winner to me. I've had some pretty ugly ones myself that suddenly became beautiful in the winners circle.
To the OP, I had an ASOF out of a working bred mare. She was super nice, very athletic, good minded.  Her only problem (for me) is that she never grew up. She was 14 hands. I sold her to a more petite rider who is getting along with her great!
IÂ bred one of my DTF daughters to ASOF and we are expecting a foal towards the end of the month.
I bred as an investment. His foals bring 3-4X what the stud fee is.  Whether you are breeding for yourself or to sell, I would say he is one of the best investments for the money right now on the stud fee. So go for it.Â
I HATE when people comment on heads...Who cares? As long as it has a brain in it, what else does it matter? I would rather run a long backed horse or a big head to a win, than have a halter-pretty horse to show off to friends, that runs in the 3d. |
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Location: Oregon | Thank you everyone for you replies you have given me lots to think about! And several new options to put some research into!! |
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Location: When you hit the middle of nowhere .. Keep driving | jbhoot - 2014-03-13 9:53 AM
rockinas - 2014-03-13 9:23 AM
jenagarwood - 2014-03-12 9:27 PM This thought always comes to my mind when people on BHW are talking about ASOF's longer back, or being smaller....so for once I am just going to get it off my chest. Unless you want a halter horse--pretty is as pretty does. And they win! I agree Jena. People have to find something to pick on. With DTF it was always his head. A winner is a winner to me. I've had some pretty ugly ones myself that suddenly became beautiful in the winners circle.
To the OP, I had an ASOF out of a working bred mare. She was super nice, very athletic, good minded.  Her only problem (for me) is that she never grew up. She was 14 hands. I sold her to a more petite rider who is getting along with her great!
IÂ bred one of my DTF daughters to ASOF and we are expecting a foal towards the end of the month.
I bred as an investment. His foals bring 3-4X what the stud fee is.  Whether you are breeding for yourself or to sell, I would say he is one of the best investments for the money right now on the stud fee. So go for it.Â
I could not agree more with your statement. The one thing I would add is every time one of these threads comes up on ASOF every one states his back is to long. I have seen him on two different times in person with tack on and off. In my opinion when you compare his top line against his bottom line he is not to long. He does have more mass in person than he shows in his pictures and his legs maybe a little short for his body type. But dollar for dollar I think he is an excellent investment. The other stud option I would add to the OP is On A Gator 1500 fee colts average 13000 and the ones I have seen are vary nice.
On a gator is certainly tempting. His family is producing and are winners. He sold well at heritage too! Love him. I've tossed around a streak of fling but never bit the bullet on breeding to him. Can't go wrong with either IMO. |
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Location: Oregon | I'm really liking On A Gator, with his size and the possiblity that I might be able to just take my mare to be live covered.. He seems to have a much shorter back then ASOF and I do like the Tiny's Gay in there and his maternal side is attractive. Are there any running that anyones knows of? |
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| ~rodeojunkie~ - 2014-03-13 1:47 PM
I'm really liking On A Gator, with his size and the possiblity that I might be able to just take my mare to be live covered.. He seems to have a much shorter back then ASOF and I do like the Tiny's Gay in there and his maternal side is attractive. Are there any running that anyones knows of?
I don't think any are old enough to run barrels yet. There might be a couple on the track as 2yr olds this year. My trainer/jocky has a 3 yr old stud colt by him that is really,really nice. She will start running him next year. |
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Location: Peg-Leg Julia Grimm | ~rodeojunkie~ - 2014-03-13 11:47 AM I'm really liking On A Gator, with his size and the possiblity that I might be able to just take my mare to be live covered.. He seems to have a much shorter back then ASOF and I do like the Tiny's Gay in there and his maternal side is attractive. Are there any running that anyones knows of?
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Location: Wonderful Wyoming | OregonBR - 2014-03-13 2:05 PM ~rodeojunkie~ - 2014-03-13 11:47 AM I'm really liking On A Gator, with his size and the possiblity that I might be able to just take my mare to be live covered.. He seems to have a much shorter back then ASOF and I do like the Tiny's Gay in there and his maternal side is attractive. Are there any running that anyones knows of? I can pretty much guarantee Scottie won't be live covering with OAG.
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Location: Oregon | wyoming barrel racer - 2014-03-13 3:15 PM
OregonBR - 2014-03-13 2:05 PM ~rodeojunkie~ - 2014-03-13 11:47 AM I'm really liking On A Gator, with his size and the possiblity that I might be able to just take my mare to be live covered.. He seems to have a much shorter back then ASOF and I do like the Tiny's Gay in there and his maternal side is attractive. Are there any running that anyones knows of? I can pretty much guarantee Scottie won't be live covering with OAG.  Â
Yes, Save a little on shipping and maybe a better chance of her settling, she is a maiden mare. |
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Location: NE WY | So not to rain on your parade, but I am in heart of ASOF country, lots and lots of them around here....people either love them or hate them. I would be in the second category. We have owned 2, I found them to be pea hearted, cold personalities, snorty and of average talent. Now, I wont disagree that I see some video's of friends that have one and they look pretty great, I guess I was just unlucky in that department, but I also have some other friends, notable NFR qualifiers that have had the same luck as me....
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Location: Oklahoma | rockinas - 2014-03-13 9:23 AM jenagarwood - 2014-03-12 9:27 PM This thought always comes to my mind when people on BHW are talking about ASOF's longer back, or being smaller....so for once I am just going to get it off my chest. Unless you want a halter horse--pretty is as pretty does. And they win! I agree Jena. People have to find something to pick on. With DTF it was always his head. A winner is a winner to me. I've had some pretty ugly ones myself that suddenly became beautiful in the winners circle.
To the OP, I had an ASOF out of a working bred mare. She was super nice, very athletic, good minded. Her only problem (for me) is that she never grew up. She was 14 hands. I sold her to a more petite rider who is getting along with her great!
I bred one of my DTF daughters to ASOF and we are expecting a foal towards the end of the month.
I bred as an investment. His foals bring 3-4X what the stud fee is. Whether you are breeding for yourself or to sell, I would say he is one of the best investments for the money right now on the stud fee. So go for it.
I think thats apples to oranges ... an ugly head is one thing but doesnt cause one to break down ... a long, weak back DOES cause soreness issues and one to break down ... SI, lower back, etc etc. JMO. :) |
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Location: You never know where I will show up...... | Runnin < C > - 2014-03-14 7:51 AM rockinas - 2014-03-13 9:23 AM jenagarwood - 2014-03-12 9:27 PM This thought always comes to my mind when people on BHW are talking about ASOF's longer back, or being smaller....so for once I am just going to get it off my chest. Unless you want a halter horse--pretty is as pretty does. And they win! I agree Jena. People have to find something to pick on. With DTF it was always his head. A winner is a winner to me. I've had some pretty ugly ones myself that suddenly became beautiful in the winners circle.
To the OP, I had an ASOF out of a working bred mare. She was super nice, very athletic, good minded. Her only problem (for me) is that she never grew up. She was 14 hands. I sold her to a more petite rider who is getting along with her great!
I bred one of my DTF daughters to ASOF and we are expecting a foal towards the end of the month.
I bred as an investment. His foals bring 3-4X what the stud fee is. Whether you are breeding for yourself or to sell, I would say he is one of the best investments for the money right now on the stud fee. So go for it.
I was stating that people have to find something to be critical about.
Furthermore, I live in the middle of ASOF country and have yet to see one in real life that has a "weak back".
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Location: Oklahoma | rockinas - 2014-03-14 8:40 AM Runnin < C > - 2014-03-14 7:51 AM rockinas - 2014-03-13 9:23 AM jenagarwood - 2014-03-12 9:27 PM This thought always comes to my mind when people on BHW are talking about ASOF's longer back, or being smaller....so for once I am just going to get it off my chest. Unless you want a halter horse--pretty is as pretty does. And they win! I agree Jena. People have to find something to pick on. With DTF it was always his head. A winner is a winner to me. I've had some pretty ugly ones myself that suddenly became beautiful in the winners circle.
To the OP, I had an ASOF out of a working bred mare. She was super nice, very athletic, good minded. Her only problem (for me) is that she never grew up. She was 14 hands. I sold her to a more petite rider who is getting along with her great!
I bred one of my DTF daughters to ASOF and we are expecting a foal towards the end of the month.
I bred as an investment. His foals bring 3-4X what the stud fee is. Whether you are breeding for yourself or to sell, I would say he is one of the best investments for the money right now on the stud fee. So go for it.
I was stating that people have to find something to be critical about.
Furthermore I live in the middle of ASOF country and have yet to see one with a "weak back".
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| I really like his son from what I have seen and have heard good things about him http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/index.php?query_type=horse&h=FRENCH...
I love his dam line though it gives me my two favorite lines Streakin Six and his dam same lines as Frenchmans Guy. Cant go wrong there !
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That's also a very nice horse. I booked my retired rodeo mare, that won the 2008 WPRA Derby World Finals, to him for this year. Anxious to see what we get. |
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Location: Beggs, OK | I said Whoa - 2014-03-13 9:45 PM So not to rain on your parade, but I am in heart of ASOF country, lots and lots of them around here....people either love them or hate them. I would be in the second category. We have owned 2, I found them to be pea hearted, cold personalities, snorty and of average talent. Now, I wont disagree that I see some video's of friends that have one and they look pretty great, I guess I was just unlucky in that department, but I also have some other friends, notable NFR qualifiers that have had the same luck as me....
Good luck!!
We have had the same experience. I won't say I will never have one, but it's going to have to already be riding. |
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