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 A Somebody to Everybody
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | Longneck - 2014-03-17 2:46 PM Better simmer down now... or they'll sic Chuck Norris on you!!!
I kid, I kid.
But seriously.... I think if you look at where the MAJORITY of the top horses, be it NFR, 4D, or Futurity/Derby, you're gonna see a bunch of Texas people show up on the top of the charts. That's why they use those "tough Texas competition" quotes. If it doesn't lure you in, that's fine... but there is someone who it will work on... and with good reason.
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Location: Oklahoma | Southtxponygirl - 2014-03-17 2:58 PM Longneck - 2014-03-17 2:46 PM Better simmer down now... or they'll sic Chuck Norris on you!!!
I kid, I kid.
But seriously.... I think if you look at where the MAJORITY of the top horses, be it NFR, 4D, or Futurity/Derby, you're gonna see a bunch of Texas people show up on the top of the charts. That's why they use those "tough Texas competition" quotes. If it doesn't lure you in, that's fine... but there is someone who it will work on... and with good reason.
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 Owner of a ratting catting machine
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| Read this and pretty much got the giggles...
Seriously?
Do your research.
Of course there's bad ass horses everywhere, but I guarantee you better come mounted and have a game plan if you're going to win in the I35 corridor between San Antonio and Oklahoma City
As far as watching D&D, you probably didn't see much of a cross section if you didn't watch the whole thing. Those that can run 1D/2D are a MUCH narrower margin than those who consistently run 3D/4D/5D. Look at the Wrapn3 website for an idea of what I mean.
If you've got a horse that can run 1D 2D here, you're competing against money, talent, and some of the best trainers in the nation (no, really). I guess if you want to come jackpot with Kay Blandford, Brittany Pozzi, Wildchild Jackie Jatzlau, Tammy Fischer, the Skeltons, Liz Pinkston, Mary Donna Smothers, Marlene McCrae, Charmayne James, Andrea Cline, and a whole bunch of others that outrun the toughs all the time and learn just what a Texas horse is, come to San Antonio and they'll for sure teach you!
There's no such thing as 'the only horse in the 1D' here, because somebody else is there that's been to the NFR too. Probably more than you have! Ha ha. What's so special about Texas horses, ha ha ha ha!
I'll tell you....they whipped my little Wyoming butt on my 1/D 2/D horses right into the middle of the 'underwhelming' 3D. Mind you, my good horse had won checks in the 2D at Buckeye weeklies (NOT KNOCKING ARIZONA! I was seriously humbled there too!) I came in stepping pretty tall and had a LONG way to fall! It took me a solid year to make a 2D run here.
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 The best bad guy on the internet
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Location: Arizona | I don't think it's the horses that are tough but the girls that are riding them..now those are some tough girls!! | |
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A Somebody to Everybody
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | Longneck - 2014-03-17 2:59 PM Southtxponygirl - 2014-03-17 2:58 PM Longneck - 2014-03-17 2:46 PM Better simmer down now... or they'll sic Chuck Norris on you!!!
I kid, I kid.
But seriously.... I think if you look at where the MAJORITY of the top horses, be it NFR, 4D, or Futurity/Derby, you're gonna see a bunch of Texas people show up on the top of the charts. That's why they use those "tough Texas competition" quotes. If it doesn't lure you in, that's fine... but there is someone who it will work on... and with good reason.
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Location: Somewhere between genius and insanity | could be because our local jackpots have fallon taylor, michelle micleod, janet stover, charmayne james, kendra dickson, jolene montgomery, molli montgomery, scamper cole, mary walker, jackie jatzlau, latricia duke, ryann pedone, jordan briggs, jennifer epps, jackie whitcher, just to name a few... And those are just from the results of the past 5 jackpots I have ran at. And those are just the local jackpots with under $5000 added... Central texas is a tough tough bunch of girls. You have got to have a jam up horse to be in the 1d with those ladies. | |
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| classicpotatochip - 2014-03-17 3:01 PM
Read this and pretty much got the giggles...
Seriously?
Do your research.
Of course there's bad ass horses everywhere, but I guarantee you better come mounted and have a game plan if you're going to win in the I35 corridor between San Antonio and Oklahoma City
As far as watching D&D, you probably didn't see much of a cross section if you didn't watch the whole thing. Those that can run 1D/2D are a MUCH narrower margin than those who consistently run 3D/4D/5D. Look at the Wrapn3 website for an idea of what I mean.
If you've got a horse that can run 1D 2D here, you're competing against money, talent, and some of the best trainers in the nation (no, really). I guess if you want to come jackpot with Kay Blandford, Brittany Pozzi, Wildchild Jackie Jatzlau, Tammy Fischer, the Skeltons, Liz Pinkston, Mary Donna Smothers, Marlene McCrae, Charmayne James, Andrea Cline, and a whole bunch of others that outrun the toughs all the time and learn just what a Texas horse is, come to San Antonio and they'll for sure teach you!
There's no such thing as 'the only horse in the 1D' here, because somebody else is there that's been to the NFR too. Probably more than you have! Ha ha. What's so special about Texas horses, ha ha ha ha!
I'll tell you....they whipped my little Wyoming butt on my 1/D 2/D horses right into the middle of the 'underwhelming' 3D. Mind you, my good horse had won checks in the 2D at Buckeye weeklies (NOT KNOCKING ARIZONA! I was seriously humbled there too!) I came in stepping pretty tall and had a LONG way to fall! It took me a solid year to make a 2D run here.
What 1Ds did you win in Wyoming? When I read a 1D/2D horse its usually a 2D horse that has hit the 1D every now and then.
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Miss Not Exciting
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Location: Ft Worth TX | Just saying but Fallon Taylor, Kelly Yates, Kenna Squires, Andrea Cline, Shada Brazile show up at our local week night jackpots from time to time... I'd say the competition is very tough... Idk many other parts of the country that have as many big names show up to a jackpot as we do in north tax area | |
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 Own It and Move On
Location: The edge of no where | ItsMe - Exactly where are you from?
Just check the results of the D&D race.
Slot race winner - Texas
Futurity Winner - Texas
2nd and 3rd in the Derby - Texas
If you're so big and bad that Texas competition is a joke, exactly WHAT have you won? Put your big kid panties on and try it on down here....... my $$$$$ says we'll send you packin back to where ever you're from with your tail between your legs!
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| MS2011 - 2014-03-17 8:08 PM
ItsMe - Exactly where are you from?
Just check the results of the D&D race.
Slot race winner - Texas
Futurity Winner - Texas
2nd and 3rd in the Derby - Texas
If you're so big and bad that Texas competition is a joke, exactly WHAT have you won? Put your big kid panties on and try it on down here....... my $$$$$ says we'll send you packin back to where ever you're from with your tail between your legs!
I hope so, it was in texas...
Competition in Texas isnt a joke, its just the same as other places. Last year we ran against all the same people at different races, Fallon,Lockhart,Loflin,Yates,McCleod,Pozzi,Meadors,Conrados...and those ladies didnt always win and the same local girls were still 1D.
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Own It and Move On
Location: The edge of no where | Itsme - 2014-03-17 8:25 PM MS2011 - 2014-03-17 8:08 PM ItsMe - Exactly where are you from?
Just check the results of the D&D race.
Slot race winner - Texas
Futurity Winner - Texas
2nd and 3rd in the Derby - Texas
If you're so big and bad that Texas competition is a joke, exactly WHAT have you won? Put your big kid panties on and try it on down here....... my $$$$$ says we'll send you packin back to where ever you're from with your tail between your legs! I hope so, it was in texas... Competition in Texas isnt a joke, its just the same as other places. Last year we ran against all the same people at different races, Fallon,Lockhart,Loflin,Yates,McCleod,Pozzi,Meadors,Conrados...and those ladies didnt always win and the same local girls were still 1D.
Nice way to avoid answering my questions..... Where are you from? What have you won?
If you looked at the entries...lots of people paid to haul in from other states and didn't dominate taking all the money home. Check the stats whiteboy gave you.......... | |
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| MS2011 - 2014-03-17 8:42 PM
Itsme - 2014-03-17 8:25 PM MS2011 - 2014-03-17 8:08 PM ItsMe - Exactly where are you from?
Just check the results of the D&D race.
Slot race winner - Texas
Futurity Winner - Texas
2nd and 3rd in the Derby - Texas
If you're so big and bad that Texas competition is a joke, exactly WHAT have you won? Put your big kid panties on and try it on down here....... my $$$$$ says we'll send you packin back to where ever you're from with your tail between your legs! I hope so, it was in texas... Competition in Texas isnt a joke, its just the same as other places. Last year we ran against all the same people at different races, Fallon,Lockhart,Loflin,Yates,McCleod,Pozzi,Meadors,Conrados...and those ladies didnt always win and the same local girls were still 1D.
If you looked at the entries...lots of people paid to haul in from other states and didn't dominate taking all the money home. Check the stats whiteboy gave you..........
Why do you care where im from? So you can talk trash and be a cool texan? When my state starts pumping its chest about everything ill call them out too.
Who won the NFR and the American and what state are they from?
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 Miss Positive
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Location: Crowder, OK | OK is the same way as TX.......there are 1d horses everywhere in every state, but you come to OK/TX, you better get ready to outrun a dozen or more compared to just one or two somewhere else....we had a small 1000 added this wkend, 175 horses, 8 places paid in the 1d and less than a tenth of a second from 1st - last money hole!!!!!!!! it was freken wicked tough lil race!!! I had a good run, was just a hair over a tenth over the winning horse and i was 12th in the 1d!!!!!!!! alot of our small jackpots have more horses in the 1d or 2d than all the other Ds......I am not bashing any other states because like alot of others said, there are 1d horses in every state, but you get in OK/TX and there are ALOT more of them! | |
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Location: SE Louisiana | F1NoniStephenville - 2014-03-17 1:19 PM
It's the water lol
No it's not... It's the tornadoes... Texas horses have to be able to outrun tornadoes if they want to live very long.. | |
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| Tinkerbell - 2014-03-17 9:13 PM
OK is the same way as TX.......there are 1d horses everywhere in every state, but you come to OK/TX, you better get ready to outrun a dozen or more compared to just one or two somewhere else....we had a small 1000 added this wkend, 175 horses, 8 places paid in the 1d and less than a tenth of a second from 1st - last money hole!!!!!!!! it was freken wicked tough lil race!!! I had a good run, was just a hair over a tenth over the winning horse and i was 12th in the 1d!!!!!!!! alot of our small jackpots have more horses in the 1d or 2d than all the other Ds......I am not bashing any other states because like alot of others said, there are 1d horses in every state, but you get in OK/TX and there are ALOT more of them!
This is worded nicely! 
I cant really argue with this...
My point is it only takes 1 horse to set a fast 1D time, so to say a horse is 2D in tough texas competition is just absurd. | |
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| komet. - 2014-03-17 9:21 PM
F1NoniStephenville - 2014-03-17 1:19 PM
It's the water lol
No it's not... It's the tornadoes... Texas horses have to be able to outrun tornadoes if they want to live very long..
Thats why KS is so good... | |
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 You get what you give
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Location: Texas | It's not that everyone is faster here…LOL.
It's that you go to a local saturday jackpot and you have 150-200 horses entered with ZERO added money.
There's a reason the futurity horses were kicking tail on the open horses- those horses were paid into that race, a very expensive race, MONTHS and MONTHS in advanced. They were prepped by the best trainers, polished for this run for a lot more money than the open was offering…Futurity horses are designed to light it on fire for specific races for one year of their life. They only get one futurity year.. but they get two derby years and as many open and rodeo years as their life allows. They better be GAME ON for a race with as much at stake as diamonds and dirt. They may be "colts" but when they run at those races, they aren't treating them like colts.
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| casualdust07 - 2014-03-17 9:54 PM
It's not that everyone is faster here…LOL.
It's that you go to a local saturday jackpot and you have 150-200 horses entered with ZERO added money.
There's a reason the futurity horses were kicking tail on the open horses- those horses were paid into that race, a very expensive race, MONTHS and MONTHS in advanced. They were prepped by the best trainers, polished for this run for a lot more money than the open was offering…Futurity horses are designed to light it on fire for specific races for one year of their life. They only get one futurity year.. but they get two derby years and as many open and rodeo years as their life allows. They better be GAME ON for a race with as much at stake as diamonds and dirt. They may be "colts" but when they run at those races, they aren't treating them like colts.
Oh yeah, we personally know one of the trainers that ran a fast, fast time there and it took tons of time and dedication to get to that point.
My point again is it doesnt matter how many horses are running or the riders names or states they reside in, it only takes one good horse to set the bar. Shoot, Taylor Jacob put some of the best in the world in the "2D" at the NFR.
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 Not Afraid to Work
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| I think TX and OK have a more "horse driven" environment. They flat out have more barrel racers. So there are more true 1D horses than in other states. Its not that MN horses (where I am from) cant compete with a TX 1D horses, heck they may even outrun them BUT if you look at a big super show... most of the 1D placings are OK/TX because there are just MORE.
Up here, we have small barrel races... on a weeknight 30 entries. But a true 1D horse may or may not be there because there are just flat out less of them. I think great horses come from all parts of the world but in Texas your chances of showing up at a race without a true 1D horse is more slim. Technically I can say my horse has run in the 1D and could show proof of this... however, it was typically a top of the 2D time in that arena.
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Location: stray dump capital of the world | Haven't you heard? Everything is bigger in Texas. | |
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