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Location: WI | savannahann03 - 2014-03-19 2:05 PM Ms Perky Bug sold for $465,000 in Brazil last year.
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Location: California | For that amount of money, I think I would rather go to a Keeneland sale. |
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Location: Pilot Point, TX | linds - 2014-03-19 2:10 PM
savannahann03 - 2014-03-19 2:05 PM Ms Perky Bug sold for $465,000 in Brazil last year.
$465k Brazilian = $356k American dollars.
In the article that was written with help from Courtney, it says "she sold at public auction for the high bid of what is the Brazilian equivalent to $465,000."
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Location: WI | savannahann03 - 2014-03-19 2:41 PM linds - 2014-03-19 2:10 PM savannahann03 - 2014-03-19 2:05 PM Ms Perky Bug sold for $465,000 in Brazil last year. $465k Brazilian = $356k American dollars. In the article that was written with help from Courtney, it says "she sold at public auction for the high bid of what is the Brazilian equivalent to $465,000."
This article says 356US, 624 Brazilian. A lot either way 
http://www.barrelhorsenews.com/articles/industry-news/3334-miss-fortunes-fool-changes-hands-in-record-setting-transaction- |
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| NonaY - 2014-03-19 2:21 PM
For that amount of money, I think I would rather go to a Keeneland sale.
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Location: OH | caboy61 - 2014-03-19 3:52 PM NonaY - 2014-03-19 2:21 PM For that amount of money, I think I would rather go to a Keeneland sale. Go
Keeneland is a crapshoot also----I have seen a lot of horses go through there and bring 250,000 plus and never make it to the track.
IMO--these people that are at the top of the rodeo industry are willing to pay huge money for these horses in order to stay at the top and keep their sponsors--I don't think it is a matter of the horse making that money back but keeping their name in the limelight. |
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Location: California | caboy61 - 2014-03-19 12:52 PM
NonaY - 2014-03-19 2:21 PM
For that amount of money, I think I would rather go to a Keeneland sale.
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I am. Just as soon as I raise the funds on my donation page. |
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Location: North Dakota | In my 39 meager years on this earth, I have learned one very important thing. There is one heck of a lot more money in peoples bank accounts than ANY of us realize. IMO, someone who is willing to pay that$100K or higher price tag is not doing it for the money but the fame. They have the funds to travel and go regardless of winning or loosing. Some are very fortunate to be able to win enough to get their sponsors and therefore can continue on. I do not want to even begin to understand how one could justify the prices people ask for their animals. Big money is available in any industry. Some people have it to burn. I only imagine what I would do with unlimited funds, no matter where it came from. Right now in my neck of the woods, oil money is fueling a lot of the business and it shows. More power to you if you can spend it! I wish people would share their secrets, wouldn't it be nice to be able to learn from them? For the record, my good horse, I spent $550 on him as a weanling-maybe someday, there will be stories about how much I spent on him and this little BHW post will confirm for those that are curious or spreading rumors.  Great post thanks! |
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| NonaY - 2014-03-19 3:04 PM caboy61 - 2014-03-19 12:52 PM NonaY - 2014-03-19 2:21 PM For that amount of money, I think I would rather go to a Keeneland sale. Go I am. Just as soon as I raise the funds on my donation page.
you need crowdfunding! lol |
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Location: Midwest | Whiteboy - 2014-03-19 3:22 PM
NonaY - 2014-03-19 3:04 PM caboy61 - 2014-03-19 12:52 PM NonaY - 2014-03-19 2:21 PM For that amount of money, I think I would rather go to a Keeneland sale. Go I am. Just as soon as I raise the funds on my donation page.
I heard gofundme.com doesn't ask questions... |
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| barrelracr131 - 2014-03-19 3:27 PM Whiteboy - 2014-03-19 3:22 PM NonaY - 2014-03-19 3:04 PM caboy61 - 2014-03-19 12:52 PM NonaY - 2014-03-19 2:21 PM For that amount of money, I think I would rather go to a Keeneland sale. Go I am. Just as soon as I raise the funds on my donation page. I heard gofundme.com doesn't ask questions...
it is a nice idea but not as useful as some might hope. |
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| NonaY - 2014-03-19 3:04 PM
caboy61 - 2014-03-19 12:52 PM
NonaY - 2014-03-19 2:21 PM
For that amount of money, I think I would rather go to a Keeneland sale.
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I am. Just as soon as I raise the funds on my donation page.
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Location: Midwest | Whiteboy - 2014-03-19 3:31 PM
barrelracr131 - 2014-03-19 3:27 PM Whiteboy - 2014-03-19 3:22 PM NonaY - 2014-03-19 3:04 PM caboy61 - 2014-03-19 12:52 PM NonaY - 2014-03-19 2:21 PM For that amount of money, I think I would rather go to a Keeneland sale. Go I am. Just as soon as I raise the funds on my donation page. I heard gofundme.com doesn't ask questions...
Side note I heard the site takes a cut of the donations |
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| I think the big key to your original question is....."and still make a profit"..... I think that is yet to be seen now with something like the American. I am thinking there will be more events of that nature, but not quite on that big of a money scale. Also with profits we would have to consider a person's sponsors & what is able to be made there. I have no idea the actual cost of getting up and down the road, fees, vet bills, etc. That has got to be a huge expense. I am thinking about rodeo horses only...and barrel horses for just divisional barrel races.
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| barrelracr131 - 2014-03-19 3:42 PM Whiteboy - 2014-03-19 3:31 PM barrelracr131 - 2014-03-19 3:27 PM Whiteboy - 2014-03-19 3:22 PM NonaY - 2014-03-19 3:04 PM caboy61 - 2014-03-19 12:52 PM NonaY - 2014-03-19 2:21 PM For that amount of money, I think I would rather go to a Keeneland sale. Go I am. Just as soon as I raise the funds on my donation page. I heard gofundme.com doesn't ask questions... Side note I heard the site takes a cut of the donations
So if they dont ask questions, I could raise money for anything right?...Bad habits here I come! |
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| The profit is made on breeding. If one could get so lucky and get the next Frenchmans Guy or Dash Ta Fame, Firewater Flit, Dr Nick Bar, etc sire, then get one of the best trainers to train that horse, such as Dena Kirkpatrick, Bo Hill, etc who then sold the horse for a lot of money to a Pro Barrel Racer who wins the world, ex Mary Walker, Lindsey Sears (these two are most known for the one horse success).
Dena said last year when I was attending a clinic of hers that a top 1d horse with pro potential sells for about 320k
The other way to make a profit is to be so lucky to train that tough 1d futurity champion pro potential horse and sell it for 320k
There is no profit in pro rodeo by the time you calculate all the expenses, depreciating value of truck and trailer, vet bills etc. These people who do it get by with selling horses, sponsorship, clinics, endorsing product, etc.
I would say there is a profit in the futurity and derbies |
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| IMO....People that spend over 100k on a barrel horse are not worried about making a profit.... it is strictly to be number 1 at the end of the year and have fun doing what they love.
Same as people who spend 100k on cars, boats, and other toys...........those things have no return.
I also think it is interesting to hear prices even if the name is not posted.
I would really like to see someone's expense report.......that would be interesting as well.
I just can't imagine that a person that originally started out with NO help from a parent, spouse, family member, or sugar daddy..... I mean NO help buying a truck, trailer or even feed would ever be able to be a world champion. Maybe... Unless they had went to college and had a great career first or an entrepreneur, but there again who helped them with college or starting the business??
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Location: Wonderful Wyoming | well in all honesty it isn't a business transaction. After expenses, few barrel racers ( prof or not) make a profit at the end of the year. So its no different than someone buying a million dollar yacht. Silly to some, but loads of fun to others. |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | sorrel horse ranch - 2014-03-19 12:20 PM I think at the end of the day the best answer to your question is going to be the one that has been given for years and years. A horse is worth what someone is willing to sell it for and what the next person is willing to pay for it.
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| cheryl makofka - 2014-03-19 4:21 PM
The profit is made on breeding. If one could get so lucky and get the next Frenchmans Guy or Dash Ta Fame, Firewater Flit, Dr Nick Bar, etc sire, then get one of the best trainers to train that horse, such as Dena Kirkpatrick, Bo Hill, etc who then sold the horse for a lot of money to a Pro Barrel Racer who wins the world, ex Mary Walker, Lindsey Sears (these two are most known for the one horse success).
Dena said last year when I was attending a clinic of hers that a top 1d horse with pro potential sells for about 320k
The other way to make a profit is to be so lucky to train that tough 1d futurity champion pro potential horse and sell it for 320k
There is no profit in pro rodeo by the time you calculate all the expenses, depreciating value of truck and trailer, vet bills etc. These people who do it get by with selling horses, sponsorship, clinics, endorsing product, etc.
I would say there is a profit in the futurity and derbies
I can't imagine paying 320K for anything, but I am poor. |
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