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Location: Texas | We've fed it for a long time. Have three geldings on it. I haven't noticed any changes since the fall. Hubby is the one who feeds though and is real picky about how our horses are fed. He hasn't mentioned anything different about it and we still use it. We're really happy with it.
Like all feeds though, it works for some but not all. It has helped supplement our average hay. Here in Texas, we just have coastal. My father-in-law also feeds TE and he has awesome hay. He's in Wyoming. But he doesn't feed as much TE as we do. |
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Location: Kansas | Made my best friends horses super hot, and also caused them to look pretty sunk in. She has since switched. Others that feed it love it, and their horses look great. Must of been a flook with her horses LOL |
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Location: Got Lobsta? | I can't believe I missed this thread! I had to switch my horse off of a new feed because we found out through alergy testing that he is allergic to Flax. I don't want to mess around with combining this and that so I want a complete feed. Do you know how hard it is to find feed or supplements without Flax? TE and Triple Crown Lite was the only feed I could find. I just started him on TE and he loves it. This thread has put a knot in my stomach! Especially when SG turned it down. LOL! |
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Location: Central Texas | About 1 1/2 years ago I bought 2 tons for 8 horses. One horse improved on it, the 25 yr old mare, and all the others dropped condition dramatically. It is the only feed out of all that I have tried through the years that made my horses fall off so much. Never again! |
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Location: Displaced Iowegian | I really can't tell you how well our horses did on it .....because we purchased 400# and couldn't get them to eat it......we had to finally mix it WITH another feed to get rid of it....... |
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| We fed one horse TE for about 2 months this spring. We fed the recommended amount. He didn't do very well on it. We went back to Ultium. On the Ultium he fills out really nice and we didn't notice that on the TE. We usually don't feed grain in the winter, so it was a good experiment to go from no grain for about 4 months to trying something totally different.
Couple questions and I guess comments about it...wasn't it developed in Texas? And isn't the main ingredient alfalfa hay? The reason I ask is that in the NW we have access to great alfalfa and orchard grass hay. We feed a quality mix, so my expectation of this feed doing anything spectatular for us maybe too high.
Also, what is everyone feeding with this? Wouldn't how well versus not well a horse does on it be impacted by what else is fed? For example, me feeding it with a good alfalfa/orchard grass mix with no other supplements would be different than someone only feeding TE and coastal grass or someone feeding TE, some kind of hay, and adding in a supplement such as Pureform or Platinum. Not trying to tear down anyone...just enjoy these types of discussions.  |
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Location: Texas | I LOVE Total Equine. It's great feed. My horse is an easy keeper and thought that he might be insulin resistent by how he reacted to some other feeds we tried. I put him on Total Equine, and he has done awesome since then. His coat is great and he eats it fine. My soon to be father-in-law feeds it to all his horses, even a 30 year old mare who is a very hard keeper and she does well on it. I haven't had trouble with colicing or high and low energy spells like my horse had before due to his insulin being out of whack. |
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Location: Texas | GWR - 2014-05-05 3:28 PM We fed one horse TE for about 2 months this spring. We fed the recommended amount. He didn't do very well on it. We went back to Ultium. On the Ultium he fills out really nice and we didn't notice that on the TE. We usually don't feed grain in the winter, so it was a good experiment to go from no grain for about 4 months to trying something totally different.
Couple questions and I guess comments about it...wasn't it developed in Texas? And isn't the main ingredient alfalfa hay? The reason I ask is that in the NW we have access to great alfalfa and orchard grass hay. We feed a quality mix, so my expectation of this feed doing anything spectatular for us maybe too high.
Also, what is everyone feeding with this? Wouldn't how well versus not well a horse does on it be impacted by what else is fed? For example, me feeding it with a good alfalfa/orchard grass mix with no other supplements would be different than someone only feeding TE and coastal grass or someone feeding TE, some kind of hay, and adding in a supplement such as Pureform or Platinum. Not trying to tear down anyone...just enjoy these types of discussions.
I feed mine with coastal hay and good alfalfa, but my father-in-law feeds his with only grass hay and his horses do well too. I think though you're right about it depends on what they feed with it. It does have a lot of alfalfa in the grain. |
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Location: Texas | GWR - 2014-05-05 3:28 PM We fed one horse TE for about 2 months this spring. We fed the recommended amount. He didn't do very well on it. We went back to Ultium. On the Ultium he fills out really nice and we didn't notice that on the TE. We usually don't feed grain in the winter, so it was a good experiment to go from no grain for about 4 months to trying something totally different.
Couple questions and I guess comments about it...wasn't it developed in Texas? And isn't the main ingredient alfalfa hay? The reason I ask is that in the NW we have access to great alfalfa and orchard grass hay. We feed a quality mix, so my expectation of this feed doing anything spectatular for us maybe too high.
Also, what is everyone feeding with this? Wouldn't how well versus not well a horse does on it be impacted by what else is fed? For example, me feeding it with a good alfalfa/orchard grass mix with no other supplements would be different than someone only feeding TE and coastal grass or someone feeding TE, some kind of hay, and adding in a supplement such as Pureform or Platinum. Not trying to tear down anyone...just enjoy these types of discussions.
Yes to both questions. The vet who developed it lives in Houston (I believe) and the main ingredient is alfalfa.
The main hay grown in Texas is coastal, which is a bermuda grass. As far as nutritional content goes, it's not great hay. We feed coastal more for the roughage and the fiber. That may be why all our horses have done well on TE. We also didn't have hard keepers or anything to begin with. All our geldings were fine prior to it, but seem to look better on it.
Like all feeds, I think it works for some and not others. And it may work better for horses that only have access to poorer quality hay. |
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| NJJ - 2014-05-05 11:54 AM
I really can't tell you how well our horses did on it .....because we purchased 400# and couldn't get them to eat it......we had to finally mix it WITH another feed to get rid of it.......
Mine wouldn't eat it either. Switched back to Woodys. |
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| I know of several horses who’ve have problems with repeated hoof abscesses while on TE including my own. Not a fan. |
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| It is $32 a bag here so I wouldn't buy it but I won a bag at a race so fed that it wasn't enough to notice anything but I did take some around to the whole herd and only had a few who would even try it. When I look at the ingredients there isn't anything that impresses me. I mix my own right now. |
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Location: Texas | My 7-yr old gelding has been on Total Equine for probably 8 months. The last month or so, I thought he was not looking or feeling as good. I started him on Triple Crown Senior last week. He really likes it and has already kind of perked up. I am feeding him a little more so that may be the difference. I guess we will see. |
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| aggiejudger - 2014-05-05 1:36 PM GWR - 2014-05-05 3:28 PM We fed one horse TE for about 2 months this spring. We fed the recommended amount. He didn't do very well on it. We went back to Ultium. On the Ultium he fills out really nice and we didn't notice that on the TE. We usually don't feed grain in the winter, so it was a good experiment to go from no grain for about 4 months to trying something totally different.
Couple questions and I guess comments about it...wasn't it developed in Texas? And isn't the main ingredient alfalfa hay? The reason I ask is that in the NW we have access to great alfalfa and orchard grass hay. We feed a quality mix, so my expectation of this feed doing anything spectatular for us maybe too high.
Also, what is everyone feeding with this? Wouldn't how well versus not well a horse does on it be impacted by what else is fed? For example, me feeding it with a good alfalfa/orchard grass mix with no other supplements would be different than someone only feeding TE and coastal grass or someone feeding TE, some kind of hay, and adding in a supplement such as Pureform or Platinum. Not trying to tear down anyone...just enjoy these types of discussions.
The main hay grown in Texas is coastal, which is a bermuda grass. As far as nutritional content goes, it's not great hay. We feed coastal more for the roughage and the fiber. That may be why all our horses have done well on TE. We also didn't have hard keepers or anything to begin with. All our geldings were fine prior to it, but seem to look better on it.
Like all feeds, I think it works for some and not others. And it may work better for horses that only have access to poorer quality hay.
This is what I was thinking...that Texas doesn't have quality hay as easily accessible like in the NW. Don't mean that negative; I just know it's hard to get good alfalfa or alfalfa at all in Texas. So my thought was that it was mostly developed for those who cannot get that and that maybe I wouldn't see noticeable results with it since I was already feeding a quality forage. |
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| TXBarrelRacer84 - 2014-05-05 1:34 PM GWR - 2014-05-05 3:28 PM We fed one horse TE for about 2 months this spring. We fed the recommended amount. He didn't do very well on it. We went back to Ultium. On the Ultium he fills out really nice and we didn't notice that on the TE. We usually don't feed grain in the winter, so it was a good experiment to go from no grain for about 4 months to trying something totally different.
Couple questions and I guess comments about it...wasn't it developed in Texas? And isn't the main ingredient alfalfa hay? The reason I ask is that in the NW we have access to great alfalfa and orchard grass hay. We feed a quality mix, so my expectation of this feed doing anything spectatular for us maybe too high.
Also, what is everyone feeding with this? Wouldn't how well versus not well a horse does on it be impacted by what else is fed? For example, me feeding it with a good alfalfa/orchard grass mix with no other supplements would be different than someone only feeding TE and coastal grass or someone feeding TE, some kind of hay, and adding in a supplement such as Pureform or Platinum. Not trying to tear down anyone...just enjoy these types of discussions.
Thanks for the reply. It would make sense to see greater results or the horse turn crazy when feeding it to a horse that doesn't or isn't used to getting alfalfa already, or that's my thought. I always wonder what other things people are feeding their horses when I see a review on a product. Hard to know if it's just that one product that gives results or something else they are feeding. |
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Location: Kansas | When I read threads like this all I think of is how many horses have hock issues caused by bone overgrowth. In other words spurs etc. To much calcium versus phosphorus and magnesium. Feeding a feed with this much alfalfa equates to a lot of calcium?? I haven't seen the label. Then if your feeding alfalfa hay on top of it. Vets sure like it when people run in to get injections all the time though. |
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Location: Florida.. | amy laymon - 2014-05-06 9:01 AM When I read threads like this all I think of is how many horses have hock issues caused by bone overgrowth. In other words spurs etc. To much calcium versus phosphorus and magnesium. Feeding a feed with this much alfalfa equates to a lot of calcium?? I haven't seen the label. Then if your feeding alfalfa hay on top of it. Vets sure like it when people run in to get injections all the time though.
That is a Unfair statement . I think its far from the truth. Vets know its a risk of infection and dont promote injections and in fact most will not do them unless called for the comfort of horse.
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Location: The Oklahoma plains. | amy laymon - 2014-05-06 8:01 AM When I read threads like this all I think of is how many horses have hock issues caused by bone overgrowth. In other words spurs etc. To much calcium versus phosphorus and magnesium. Feeding a feed with this much alfalfa equates to a lot of calcium?? I haven't seen the label. Then if your feeding alfalfa hay on top of it. Vets sure like it when people run in to get injections all the time though.
Thank goodness the Purina thread is frozen and you didnt get on that one- you may have taken a bashing for your COBB mix--- corn is the devil dont ya know? 
But on the topic of bone spurs-- I do wonder the role nutrition plays. We have had customers xray colts before they came to have a base line. You would be surprised the number BORN with boney issues- OCD, spurs, growth plate. And each had their own idea of the best nutrition plan before we ever had their colts. |
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Location: Texas | GWR - 2014-05-05 11:41 PM aggiejudger - 2014-05-05 1:36 PM GWR - 2014-05-05 3:28 PM We fed one horse TE for about 2 months this spring. We fed the recommended amount. He didn't do very well on it. We went back to Ultium. On the Ultium he fills out really nice and we didn't notice that on the TE. We usually don't feed grain in the winter, so it was a good experiment to go from no grain for about 4 months to trying something totally different.
Couple questions and I guess comments about it...wasn't it developed in Texas? And isn't the main ingredient alfalfa hay? The reason I ask is that in the NW we have access to great alfalfa and orchard grass hay. We feed a quality mix, so my expectation of this feed doing anything spectatular for us maybe too high.
Also, what is everyone feeding with this? Wouldn't how well versus not well a horse does on it be impacted by what else is fed? For example, me feeding it with a good alfalfa/orchard grass mix with no other supplements would be different than someone only feeding TE and coastal grass or someone feeding TE, some kind of hay, and adding in a supplement such as Pureform or Platinum. Not trying to tear down anyone...just enjoy these types of discussions.
The main hay grown in Texas is coastal, which is a bermuda grass. As far as nutritional content goes, it's not great hay. We feed coastal more for the roughage and the fiber. That may be why all our horses have done well on TE. We also didn't have hard keepers or anything to begin with. All our geldings were fine prior to it, but seem to look better on it.
Like all feeds, I think it works for some and not others. And it may work better for horses that only have access to poorer quality hay.
Not negative at all. You can get alfalfa in Texas, but it will run you at least $13/small bale in good years and up to $20/bale or more in drought years. So for us, combining TE and coastal has been cost effective and a great combination. I think that is really why it works for us. The horses are getting the required roughage in the coastal, but the TE has fulfilled their other nutritional requirements. If we lived elsewhere and had access to better hay, we might not feed TE.
I truly believe there is not one feed that works for everyone. Just like a diet doesn't work for all people. No need to bash a feed if it doesn't work for your horses. Everyone's setup is different. TE seems to be a great feed in Texas, but it was designed with the state's setup in mind (that's my guess). So that may be why it doesn't work elsewhere. Also, since it is made here, our costs for it aren't near as high as other parts of the country. |
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Location: Got Lobsta? | I just started my horse on it and he LOVES it. All the other horses I gave a handful too and my oldest which has been leaving his Senior grain behind ate it up. I had to find a feed with no flax and molasses. I will go through this and see how he does to decide if it works. We have Timothy mix up in our area. I've read the feed posts and everyone is passionate about the feed they choose. Its just gets a little nerve wracking when its turns ugley. *referring to past posts* I feed 3 different brands that work on 5 different horses. Like people, not all horses are alike in what their bodies need/require. |
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