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Location: Here | Lurker2 - 2014-04-07 1:29 PM Can you imagine if we barrel racers tried to pull stunts like that?! It's hurry up and get your horse out there and don't be wasting time!
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Location: In a happy place | SG. - 2014-04-07 1:44 PM Lurker2 - 2014-04-07 1:29 PM Can you imagine if we barrel racers tried to pull stunts like that?! It's hurry up and get your horse out there and don't be wasting time! I agree
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | sorrel horse ranch - 2014-04-07 2:50 PM SG. - 2014-04-07 1:44 PM Lurker2 - 2014-04-07 1:29 PM Can you imagine if we barrel racers tried to pull stunts like that?! It's hurry up and get your horse out there and don't be wasting time! I agree
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Location: Arkansas | Foxy J.R. - 2014-04-07 10:04 AM I wonder if they are going to start watching the Brazilians when the bulls are in the loading alleys in the back. I have seen many of them soak their bull in the loading alley way before it even gets in the chute. And now that I think about it, it's not only the Brazilians I've seen using this technique in the loading alleys.
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Location: Kansas | I'm a little lost. What do they do to them in the alley that wouldn't bring the stock contractor down on them in a heartbeat. Wasn't aware of any mischief back there.
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Location: South Texas | Frodo, to keep things moving fast the bull riders were to put their rope on the bull in the loading alley (basically just draping the rope around the bull & tying it off) so when it was run in the chute all they would have to do is warm their rosen, pull their rope and nod. I have seen bull riders putting their ropes on and tightening it over & over while the bull is in the loading alley. The contractor would need eyes in the back of his head to see this happening. |
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| Frodo - 2014-04-07 3:08 PM
I'm a little lost. What do they do to them in the alley that wouldn't bring the stock contractor down on them in a heartbeat. Wasn't aware of any mischief back there.
I don't know about the PBR but at some ammi rodeos and PRCA rodeos guys will hang their ropes while the bulls are standing in the lead up. They will pull their ropes as tight as they can and lock them off until the animal has to move forward. Sometimes they get caught sometimes they don't, usually when they get caught they are just asked to loosen their ropes. It is not until they deny or have been asked on several occasions that any type of fine or disqualification is assessed. |
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Location: Broxton, Ga | Wow I have learned something new today!...............had no clue this kind of stuff went on.......... |
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Location: Kansas | So these guys need their butts kicked................
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Location: Colorado | cyount2009 - 2014-04-07 2:30 PM
Frodo - 2014-04-07 3:08 PM
I'm a little lost. What do they do to them in the alley that wouldn't bring the stock contractor down on them in a heartbeat. Wasn't aware of any mischief back there.
I don't know about the PBR but at some ammi rodeos and PRCA rodeos guys will hang their ropes while the bulls are standing in the lead up. They will pull their ropes as tight as they can and lock them off until the animal has to move forward. Sometimes they get caught sometimes they don't, usually when they get caught they are just asked to loosen their ropes. It is not until they deny or have been asked on several occasions that any type of fine or disqualification is assessed.
That sounds alittle bit like cheating to me. Glad PBR finally recognized some things needed changed. |
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| Sounds to me like they should hand their rope to a rodeo personnel in the alley and the same person puts on all the ropes...
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Location: Arkansas | Foxy J.R. - 2014-04-07 3:29 PM Frodo, to keep things moving fast the bull riders were to put their rope on the bull in the loading alley (basically just draping the rope around the bull & tying it off) so when it was run in the chute all they would have to do is warm their rosen, pull their rope and nod. I have seen bull riders putting their ropes on and tightening it over & over while the bull is in the loading alley. The contractor would need eyes in the back of his head to see this happening.
That's cheating!! 
So, when a bull rider has a good ride, it's not because he could stay on. Hmm, a whole new light to bull rider's.
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| OhMax - 2014-04-07 4:11 PM
Sounds to me like they should hand their rope to a rodeo personnel in the alley and the same person puts on all the ropes...
Time to really man up boys.
That would open way to many technical doors. Roughies are pretty particular about the way their gear is handled before a ride. Putting the rope on in the lead up allows the cowboy to be sure the rope is adjusted to that bull. Some need the rope let way out some need it taken in. You can look at a bull and guess what kind of adjustment he needs but you don't really know until its hanging. Then there is always a chance of someone accidentally dropping a rope in the bottom of chute. Heaven forbid anyone touch the handle with a bare hand before a ride! I have seen some guys go absolutely ape poop over that!
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Location: Riding Crackhead. | CJE - 2014-04-07 3:32 PM Wow I have learned something new today!...............had no clue this kind of stuff went on..........
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| I have loved this new rule! When you watch the PBR before the rule you would see how long those Brazilians would sit in the chutes on their bull, they would take FOREVER if that bull was leaning just a hair they wouldn't nod their head and the more and more they sat and the chute and messed with the bull trying to get them to be just perfect the more it took out of the bull. If you watch riders like JB Mauney he nods his head as he is sliding up on his rope and doesn't always have his legs just right or anything. I've noticed since this rule the Brazilians have been getting bucked off more... |
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Location: When you hit the middle of nowhere .. Keep driving | cyount2009 - 2014-04-07 4:24 PM
OhMax - 2014-04-07 4:11 PM
Sounds to me like they should hand their rope to a rodeo personnel in the alley and the same person puts on all the ropes...
Time to really man up boys.
That would open way to many technical doors. Roughies are pretty particular about the way their gear is handled before a ride. Putting the rope on in the lead up allows the cowboy to be sure the rope is adjusted to that bull. Some need the rope let way out some need it taken in. You can look at a bull and guess what kind of adjustment he needs but you don't really know until its hanging. Then there is always a chance of someone accidentally dropping a rope in the bottom of chute. Heaven forbid anyone touch the handle with a bare hand before a ride! I have seen some guys go absolutely ape poop over that!
True people have their own ways of doing things but it's all about being fair to everyone. What if they allowed you to put your rope on before he chutes (like they do now) but they only allow you to do it while someone is watching. Have a contractor go down the line and watch each rider put it on. After they have made the adjustments for fit then your not allowed to touch the bull until its time to sit on them in the chutes. Touching them would be an instant disqualification..... Have someone watching them put them on and some one keeping an eye on the all the bulls from afar. |
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| This has been in place for quite a few years if I recall correctly. I am not sure if this is different now but it has always been they only have a certain amount of time in the chutes or they will get fined.
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Location: Kansas | SassyPirate, the one minute rule is new to the PBR. Yes they now get disqualifed. Silvano Alves has been disqualified twice in the last two weeks, Renato Nunes once and Valderon Oliveria once. They're pushing it to the limit not believing the judges are dead serious. Ty Murray pointed out at his Invitational that these riders could help the bulls greatly if they'd just try to position the animals themselves with their feets and bodies, but they choose to bounce around on them, slap, wiggle and shove their bodies back and forth........then they think they have to start all over again redoing their ropes. Very tough on an animal and yes it's cheating.
....and when I say "disqualified" the judge just simply says "Get off the bull." It makes you want to cheer.
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | Frodo - 2014-04-07 7:30 PM SassyPirate, the one minute rule is new to the PBR. Yes they now get disqualifed. Silvano Alves has been disqualified twice in the last two weeks, Renato Nunes once and Valderon Oliveria once. They're pushing it to the limit not believing the judges are dead serious. Ty Murray pointed out at his Invitational that these riders could help the bulls greatly if they'd just try to position the animals themselves with their feets and bodies, but they choose to bounce around on them, slap, wiggle and shove their bodies back and forth........then they think they have to start all over again redoing their ropes. Very tough on an animal and yes it's cheating.
Sounds like to me these Brazilian dudes need to be riding in the Mexican rodeos not here in the US. |
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Location: Kansas | Southtxponygirl - 2014-04-07 7:33 PM Frodo - 2014-04-07 7:30 PM SassyPirate, the one minute rule is new to the PBR. Yes they now get disqualifed. Silvano Alves has been disqualified twice in the last two weeks, Renato Nunes once and Valderon Oliveria once. They're pushing it to the limit not believing the judges are dead serious. Ty Murray pointed out at his Invitational that these riders could help the bulls greatly if they'd just try to position the animals themselves with their feets and bodies, but they choose to bounce around on them, slap, wiggle and shove their bodies back and forth........then they think they have to start all over again redoing their ropes. Very tough on an animal and yes it's cheating. Sounds like to me these Brazilian dudes need to be riding in the Mexican rodeos not here in the US.
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