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| foundation horse - 2014-04-13 12:07 PM musikmaker - 2014-04-13 11:58 AM This is why ignorant people shouldn't claim an opinion. And MRS JOE Finney continually proves HER abundance of Ignorance in regards World Affairs and ESPECIALLY in regards to Constitutional Matters.
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| musikmaker - 2014-04-13 12:33 PM bscanchaser - 2014-04-13 11:05 AM daisycake123 - 2014-04-13 11:42 AM It was not about the taxes, or the turtles. It is about a the land those cows where on and harry reid building some solar/wind farm. look through the other threads andmthere a news release. But those blm thugs and snaipers there are better ways to handle, you need to read there the mainstream media propaganda and find the real truth. Harry Reid must have been some kind of amazing to be able to predict a solar/wind development would be installed 21 years after the BLM cancelled the permit. Guess its about like the fracking article that tried to connect the dots between the BLM land Bundy was trespassing on and the actual fracking permit that was sold for Elko County...300 miles away. I agree 100% with the OP and have talked to several Northern Nevada ranchers the feel like they were just slapped in the face because this guy takes resources that the rest pay for. This whole deal has made Democrats out of a whole lot of people I thought were Republicans. I have never seen so many people jump on a bandwagon in support of free services/rights/entitlement since the first Obama election.
The 'mainstream media' is handling this with kid gloves...they didn't report anything until it was over...woosies.
Yesterday was a good day in America!
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| foundation horse - 2014-04-13 12:50 PM bscanchaser - 2014-04-13 12:43 PM foundation horse - 2014-04-13 12:37 PM bscanchaser - 2014-04-13 12:33 PM foundation horse - 2014-04-13 12:15 PM bscanchaser - 2014-04-13 12:05 PM daisycake123 - 2014-04-13 11:42 AM It was not about the taxes, or the turtles. It is about a the land those cows where on and harry reid building some solar/wind farm. look through the other threads andmthere a news release. But those blm thugs and snaipers there are better ways to handle, you need to read there the mainstream media propaganda and find the real truth. Harry Reid must have been some kind of amazing to be able to predict a solar/wind development would be installed 21 years after the BLM cancelled the permit. Guess its about like the fracking article that tried to connect the dots between the BLM land Bundy was trespassing on and the actual fracking permit that was sold for Elko County...300 miles away. I agree 100% with the OP and have talked to several Northern Nevada ranchers the feel like they were just slapped in the face because this guy takes resources that the rest pay for. This whole deal has made Democrats out of a whole lot of people I thought were Republicans. I have never seen so many people jump on a bandwagon in support of free services/rights/entitlement since the first Obama election. Bscanchaser, are you familiar with the reports that Harry Reid and Son are involved w/ China and Nevada Land for Energy Production? And these 'goings on' are dated to back to 2003 minimally. Historical Research is a good thing. Also Obama and The Rest of The Executive Branch of Government is heavily influenced by The Chinese Government due to Chinese Government holding so much FEDERAL not State Debt. Yes I have read about this. For some reason I can't seem to figure out how a 9,000 acre solar/wind facility would shut down a 600,000 acre multi-use area...especially when there are windmills in various other regions in the state and other areas of BLM multi-use seem to function just fine. Research is a good thing... Ok. Let me you ask a 'pointed' question. Do you support Harry Reid? No. I have never support or voted for Harry Reid. But your current comment (s ) indicate differently. Does the definition of hypocrisy come to mind? I always attempt to avoid the least indication of hypocrisy or conflict of interest along w/ jealousy and envy..............................
With all due respect... YOU are the one supporting a freeloader rancher. I support the honest ones that work hard to run their herds, pay their dues and take care of business.
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Location: North Texas | TXBO - 2014-04-13 12:56 PM
musikmaker - 2014-04-13 12:33 PM bscanchaser - 2014-04-13 11:05 AM daisycake123 - 2014-04-13 11:42 AM It was not about the taxes, or the turtles. It is about a the land those cows where on and harry reid building some solar/wind farm. look through the other threads andmthere a news release. But those blm thugs and snaipers there are better ways to handle, you need to read there the mainstream media propaganda and find the real truth. Harry Reid must have been some kind of amazing to be able to predict a solar/wind development would be installed 21 years after the BLM cancelled the permit. Guess its about like the fracking article that tried to connect the dots between the BLM land Bundy was trespassing on and the actual fracking permit that was sold for Elko County...300 miles away. I agree 100% with the OP and have talked to several Northern Nevada ranchers the feel like they were just slapped in the face because this guy takes resources that the rest pay for. This whole deal has made Democrats out of a whole lot of people I thought were Republicans. I have never seen so many people jump on a bandwagon in support of free services/rights/entitlement since the first Obama election.
The 'mainstream media' is handling this with kid gloves...they didn't report anything until it was over...woosies.
Yesterday was a good day in America!
Speaking of Selective Law Enforcement............What is the difference between this BLM Event (which could actually have originally been legit) and the lack of INS to round up and deport Illegal Aliens on such a scale as happened in Nevada? |
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| foundation horse - 2014-04-13 12:59 PM
TXBO - 2014-04-13 12:56 PM
musikmaker - 2014-04-13 12:33 PM bscanchaser - 2014-04-13 11:05 AM daisycake123 - 2014-04-13 11:42 AM It was not about the taxes, or the turtles. It is about a the land those cows where on and harry reid building some solar/wind farm. look through the other threads andmthere a news release. But those blm thugs and snaipers there are better ways to handle, you need to read there the mainstream media propaganda and find the real truth. Harry Reid must have been some kind of amazing to be able to predict a solar/wind development would be installed 21 years after the BLM cancelled the permit. Guess its about like the fracking article that tried to connect the dots between the BLM land Bundy was trespassing on and the actual fracking permit that was sold for Elko County...300 miles away. I agree 100% with the OP and have talked to several Northern Nevada ranchers the feel like they were just slapped in the face because this guy takes resources that the rest pay for. This whole deal has made Democrats out of a whole lot of people I thought were Republicans. I have never seen so many people jump on a bandwagon in support of free services/rights/entitlement since the first Obama election.
The 'mainstream media' is handling this with kid gloves...they didn't report anything until it was over...woosies.
Yesterday was a good day in America!
Speaking of Selective Law Enforcement............What is the difference between this BLM Event (which could actually have originally been legit ) and the lack of INS to round up and deport Illegal Aliens on such a scale as happened in Nevada?
Selective enforcement? Research the Dann sisters, Leonard Crutcher and the Casey's. All illegally grazed in Nevada and all were handled the exact same with stock being rounded up by the BLM and sold at auction. |
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Location: North Texas | bscanchaser - 2014-04-13 12:58 PM
foundation horse - 2014-04-13 12:50 PM bscanchaser - 2014-04-13 12:43 PM foundation horse - 2014-04-13 12:37 PM bscanchaser - 2014-04-13 12:33 PM foundation horse - 2014-04-13 12:15 PM bscanchaser - 2014-04-13 12:05 PM daisycake123 - 2014-04-13 11:42 AM It was not about the taxes, or the turtles. It is about a the land those cows where on and harry reid building some solar/wind farm. look through the other threads andmthere a news release. But those blm thugs and snaipers there are better ways to handle, you need to read there the mainstream media propaganda and find the real truth. Harry Reid must have been some kind of amazing to be able to predict a solar/wind development would be installed 21 years after the BLM cancelled the permit. Guess its about like the fracking article that tried to connect the dots between the BLM land Bundy was trespassing on and the actual fracking permit that was sold for Elko County...300 miles away. I agree 100% with the OP and have talked to several Northern Nevada ranchers the feel like they were just slapped in the face because this guy takes resources that the rest pay for. This whole deal has made Democrats out of a whole lot of people I thought were Republicans. I have never seen so many people jump on a bandwagon in support of free services/rights/entitlement since the first Obama election. Bscanchaser, are you familiar with the reports that Harry Reid and Son are involved w/ China and Nevada Land for Energy Production? And these 'goings on' are dated to back to 2003 minimally. Historical Research is a good thing. Also Obama and The Rest of The Executive Branch of Government is heavily influenced by The Chinese Government due to Chinese Government holding so much FEDERAL not State Debt. Yes I have read about this. For some reason I can't seem to figure out how a 9,000 acre solar/wind facility would shut down a 600,000 acre multi-use area...especially when there are windmills in various other regions in the state and other areas of BLM multi-use seem to function just fine. Research is a good thing... Ok. Let me you ask a 'pointed' question. Do you support Harry Reid? No. I have never support or voted for Harry Reid. But your current comment (s ) indicate differently. Does the definition of hypocrisy come to mind? I always attempt to avoid the least indication of hypocrisy or conflict of interest along w/ jealousy and envy..............................
Perhaps I am. However symbolically speaking I am SUPPORTING The U.S. Constitution, States Rights. And the FACT remains that the Feds (BLM) were on State Owned Land enforcing something that The LOCAL County Sherriff was responsible for..................... |
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| foundation horse - 2014-04-13 12:59 PM TXBO - 2014-04-13 12:56 PM musikmaker - 2014-04-13 12:33 PM bscanchaser - 2014-04-13 11:05 AM daisycake123 - 2014-04-13 11:42 AM It was not about the taxes, or the turtles. It is about a the land those cows where on and harry reid building some solar/wind farm. look through the other threads andmthere a news release. But those blm thugs and snaipers there are better ways to handle, you need to read there the mainstream media propaganda and find the real truth. Harry Reid must have been some kind of amazing to be able to predict a solar/wind development would be installed 21 years after the BLM cancelled the permit. Guess its about like the fracking article that tried to connect the dots between the BLM land Bundy was trespassing on and the actual fracking permit that was sold for Elko County...300 miles away. I agree 100% with the OP and have talked to several Northern Nevada ranchers the feel like they were just slapped in the face because this guy takes resources that the rest pay for. This whole deal has made Democrats out of a whole lot of people I thought were Republicans. I have never seen so many people jump on a bandwagon in support of free services/rights/entitlement since the first Obama election.
The 'mainstream media' is handling this with kid gloves...they didn't report anything until it was over...woosies.
Yesterday was a good day in America!
Speaking of Selective Law Enforcement............What is the difference between this BLM Event (which could actually have originally been legit ) and the lack of INS to round up and deport Illegal Aliens on such a scale as happened in Nevada?
Probably not much. I guess it's ok for all of us to turn out our cattle on Public land and not pay any grazing fees. |
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Location: North Texas | bscanchaser - 2014-04-13 1:01 PM
foundation horse - 2014-04-13 12:59 PM
TXBO - 2014-04-13 12:56 PM
musikmaker - 2014-04-13 12:33 PM bscanchaser - 2014-04-13 11:05 AM daisycake123 - 2014-04-13 11:42 AM It was not about the taxes, or the turtles. It is about a the land those cows where on and harry reid building some solar/wind farm. look through the other threads andmthere a news release. But those blm thugs and snaipers there are better ways to handle, you need to read there the mainstream media propaganda and find the real truth. Harry Reid must have been some kind of amazing to be able to predict a solar/wind development would be installed 21 years after the BLM cancelled the permit. Guess its about like the fracking article that tried to connect the dots between the BLM land Bundy was trespassing on and the actual fracking permit that was sold for Elko County...300 miles away. I agree 100% with the OP and have talked to several Northern Nevada ranchers the feel like they were just slapped in the face because this guy takes resources that the rest pay for. This whole deal has made Democrats out of a whole lot of people I thought were Republicans. I have never seen so many people jump on a bandwagon in support of free services/rights/entitlement since the first Obama election.
The 'mainstream media' is handling this with kid gloves...they didn't report anything until it was over...woosies.
Yesterday was a good day in America!
Speaking of Selective Law Enforcement............What is the difference between this BLM Event (which could actually have originally been legit ) and the lack of INS to round up and deport Illegal Aliens on such a scale as happened in Nevada?
Selective enforcement? Research the Dann sisters, Leonard Crutcher and the Casey's. All illegally grazed in Nevada and all were handled the exact same with stock being rounded up by the BLM and sold at auction.
Please humor me. Were these cases involving actual Federal Titled BLM Land? Or State Titled Land? |
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Location: North Texas | TXBO - 2014-04-13 1:02 PM
foundation horse - 2014-04-13 12:59 PM TXBO - 2014-04-13 12:56 PM musikmaker - 2014-04-13 12:33 PM bscanchaser - 2014-04-13 11:05 AM daisycake123 - 2014-04-13 11:42 AM It was not about the taxes, or the turtles. It is about a the land those cows where on and harry reid building some solar/wind farm. look through the other threads andmthere a news release. But those blm thugs and snaipers there are better ways to handle, you need to read there the mainstream media propaganda and find the real truth. Harry Reid must have been some kind of amazing to be able to predict a solar/wind development would be installed 21 years after the BLM cancelled the permit. Guess its about like the fracking article that tried to connect the dots between the BLM land Bundy was trespassing on and the actual fracking permit that was sold for Elko County...300 miles away. I agree 100% with the OP and have talked to several Northern Nevada ranchers the feel like they were just slapped in the face because this guy takes resources that the rest pay for. This whole deal has made Democrats out of a whole lot of people I thought were Republicans. I have never seen so many people jump on a bandwagon in support of free services/rights/entitlement since the first Obama election.
The 'mainstream media' is handling this with kid gloves...they didn't report anything until it was over...woosies.
Yesterday was a good day in America!
Speaking of Selective Law Enforcement............What is the difference between this BLM Event (which could actually have originally been legit ) and the lack of INS to round up and deport Illegal Aliens on such a scale as happened in Nevada?
The same way Illegal Aliens are free to mooch Federal Services ie Healthcare, Welfare, Food Stamps etc then? |
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Location: ND | TXBO - 2014-04-13 1:02 PM foundation horse - 2014-04-13 12:59 PM TXBO - 2014-04-13 12:56 PM musikmaker - 2014-04-13 12:33 PM bscanchaser - 2014-04-13 11:05 AM daisycake123 - 2014-04-13 11:42 AM It was not about the taxes, or the turtles. It is about a the land those cows where on and harry reid building some solar/wind farm. look through the other threads andmthere a news release. But those blm thugs and snaipers there are better ways to handle, you need to read there the mainstream media propaganda and find the real truth. Harry Reid must have been some kind of amazing to be able to predict a solar/wind development would be installed 21 years after the BLM cancelled the permit. Guess its about like the fracking article that tried to connect the dots between the BLM land Bundy was trespassing on and the actual fracking permit that was sold for Elko County...300 miles away. I agree 100% with the OP and have talked to several Northern Nevada ranchers the feel like they were just slapped in the face because this guy takes resources that the rest pay for. This whole deal has made Democrats out of a whole lot of people I thought were Republicans. I have never seen so many people jump on a bandwagon in support of free services/rights/entitlement since the first Obama election.
The 'mainstream media' is handling this with kid gloves...they didn't report anything until it was over...woosies.
Yesterday was a good day in America!
Speaking of Selective Law Enforcement............What is the difference between this BLM Event (which could actually have originally been legit ) and the lack of INS to round up and deport Illegal Aliens on such a scale as happened in Nevada?
bingo......not let's all start hauling out to Bundy's allotment and dump our cattle out there and get our share... |
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Location: I can see the end of the world from here! | bscanchaser - 2014-04-13 12:01 PM foundation horse - 2014-04-13 12:59 PM TXBO - 2014-04-13 12:56 PM musikmaker - 2014-04-13 12:33 PM bscanchaser - 2014-04-13 11:05 AM daisycake123 - 2014-04-13 11:42 AM It was not about the taxes, or the turtles. It is about a the land those cows where on and harry reid building some solar/wind farm. look through the other threads andmthere a news release. But those blm thugs and snaipers there are better ways to handle, you need to read there the mainstream media propaganda and find the real truth. Harry Reid must have been some kind of amazing to be able to predict a solar/wind development would be installed 21 years after the BLM cancelled the permit. Guess its about like the fracking article that tried to connect the dots between the BLM land Bundy was trespassing on and the actual fracking permit that was sold for Elko County...300 miles away. I agree 100% with the OP and have talked to several Northern Nevada ranchers the feel like they were just slapped in the face because this guy takes resources that the rest pay for. This whole deal has made Democrats out of a whole lot of people I thought were Republicans. I have never seen so many people jump on a bandwagon in support of free services/rights/entitlement since the first Obama election.
The 'mainstream media' is handling this with kid gloves...they didn't report anything until it was over...woosies.
Yesterday was a good day in America!
Speaking of Selective Law Enforcement............What is the difference between this BLM Event (which could actually have originally been legit ) and the lack of INS to round up and deport Illegal Aliens on such a scale as happened in Nevada? Selective enforcement? Research the Dann sisters, Leonard Crutcher and the Casey's. All illegally grazed in Nevada and all were handled the exact same with stock being rounded up by the BLM and sold at auction.
It would be prudent to keep in mind that 'policy' set by an agency that is NOT part of our gov't (Dept of Interior) is NOT law...refering to ranchers who 'caved' or those who 'pay' is akin to allowing a police officer to search your vehicle just because they asked. Say no! It's not against the law! Lol... |
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| foundation horse - 2014-04-13 1:02 PM bscanchaser - 2014-04-13 12:58 PM foundation horse - 2014-04-13 12:50 PM bscanchaser - 2014-04-13 12:43 PM foundation horse - 2014-04-13 12:37 PM bscanchaser - 2014-04-13 12:33 PM foundation horse - 2014-04-13 12:15 PM bscanchaser - 2014-04-13 12:05 PM daisycake123 - 2014-04-13 11:42 AM It was not about the taxes, or the turtles. It is about a the land those cows where on and harry reid building some solar/wind farm. look through the other threads andmthere a news release. But those blm thugs and snaipers there are better ways to handle, you need to read there the mainstream media propaganda and find the real truth. Harry Reid must have been some kind of amazing to be able to predict a solar/wind development would be installed 21 years after the BLM cancelled the permit. Guess its about like the fracking article that tried to connect the dots between the BLM land Bundy was trespassing on and the actual fracking permit that was sold for Elko County...300 miles away. I agree 100% with the OP and have talked to several Northern Nevada ranchers the feel like they were just slapped in the face because this guy takes resources that the rest pay for. This whole deal has made Democrats out of a whole lot of people I thought were Republicans. I have never seen so many people jump on a bandwagon in support of free services/rights/entitlement since the first Obama election. Bscanchaser, are you familiar with the reports that Harry Reid and Son are involved w/ China and Nevada Land for Energy Production? And these 'goings on' are dated to back to 2003 minimally. Historical Research is a good thing. Also Obama and The Rest of The Executive Branch of Government is heavily influenced by The Chinese Government due to Chinese Government holding so much FEDERAL not State Debt. Yes I have read about this. For some reason I can't seem to figure out how a 9,000 acre solar/wind facility would shut down a 600,000 acre multi-use area...especially when there are windmills in various other regions in the state and other areas of BLM multi-use seem to function just fine. Research is a good thing... Ok. Let me you ask a 'pointed' question. Do you support Harry Reid? No. I have never support or voted for Harry Reid. But your current comment (s ) indicate differently. Does the definition of hypocrisy come to mind? I always attempt to avoid the least indication of hypocrisy or conflict of interest along w/ jealousy and envy.............................. Perhaps I am. However symbolically speaking I am SUPPORTING The U.S. Constitution, States Rights. And the FACT remains that the Feds (BLM ) were on State Owned Land enforcing something that The LOCAL County Sherriff was responsible for.....................
If the local sheriff had jurisdiction, then you're supporting an elected official who ignored the rule of law and failed to perform his duties. |
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Location: I can see the end of the world from here! | foundation horse - 2014-04-13 12:03 PM bscanchaser - 2014-04-13 1:01 PM foundation horse - 2014-04-13 12:59 PM TXBO - 2014-04-13 12:56 PM musikmaker - 2014-04-13 12:33 PM bscanchaser - 2014-04-13 11:05 AM daisycake123 - 2014-04-13 11:42 AM It was not about the taxes, or the turtles. It is about a the land those cows where on and harry reid building some solar/wind farm. look through the other threads andmthere a news release. But those blm thugs and snaipers there are better ways to handle, you need to read there the mainstream media propaganda and find the real truth. Harry Reid must have been some kind of amazing to be able to predict a solar/wind development would be installed 21 years after the BLM cancelled the permit. Guess its about like the fracking article that tried to connect the dots between the BLM land Bundy was trespassing on and the actual fracking permit that was sold for Elko County...300 miles away. I agree 100% with the OP and have talked to several Northern Nevada ranchers the feel like they were just slapped in the face because this guy takes resources that the rest pay for. This whole deal has made Democrats out of a whole lot of people I thought were Republicans. I have never seen so many people jump on a bandwagon in support of free services/rights/entitlement since the first Obama election.
The 'mainstream media' is handling this with kid gloves...they didn't report anything until it was over...woosies.
Yesterday was a good day in America!
Speaking of Selective Law Enforcement............What is the difference between this BLM Event (which could actually have originally been legit ) and the lack of INS to round up and deport Illegal Aliens on such a scale as happened in Nevada? Selective enforcement? Research the Dann sisters, Leonard Crutcher and the Casey's. All illegally grazed in Nevada and all were handled the exact same with stock being rounded up by the BLM and sold at auction. Please humor me. Were these cases involving actual Federal Titled BLM Land? Or State Titled Land?
Non-titled...falls under Jurisdiction 4. The only rights are grazing & water. The fed claims the minerals, illegally, though. |
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Location: I can see the end of the world from here! | TXBO - 2014-04-13 12:07 PM foundation horse - 2014-04-13 1:02 PM bscanchaser - 2014-04-13 12:58 PM foundation horse - 2014-04-13 12:50 PM bscanchaser - 2014-04-13 12:43 PM foundation horse - 2014-04-13 12:37 PM bscanchaser - 2014-04-13 12:33 PM foundation horse - 2014-04-13 12:15 PM bscanchaser - 2014-04-13 12:05 PM daisycake123 - 2014-04-13 11:42 AM It was not about the taxes, or the turtles. It is about a the land those cows where on and harry reid building some solar/wind farm. look through the other threads andmthere a news release. But those blm thugs and snaipers there are better ways to handle, you need to read there the mainstream media propaganda and find the real truth. Harry Reid must have been some kind of amazing to be able to predict a solar/wind development would be installed 21 years after the BLM cancelled the permit. Guess its about like the fracking article that tried to connect the dots between the BLM land Bundy was trespassing on and the actual fracking permit that was sold for Elko County...300 miles away. I agree 100% with the OP and have talked to several Northern Nevada ranchers the feel like they were just slapped in the face because this guy takes resources that the rest pay for. This whole deal has made Democrats out of a whole lot of people I thought were Republicans. I have never seen so many people jump on a bandwagon in support of free services/rights/entitlement since the first Obama election. Bscanchaser, are you familiar with the reports that Harry Reid and Son are involved w/ China and Nevada Land for Energy Production? And these 'goings on' are dated to back to 2003 minimally. Historical Research is a good thing. Also Obama and The Rest of The Executive Branch of Government is heavily influenced by The Chinese Government due to Chinese Government holding so much FEDERAL not State Debt. Yes I have read about this. For some reason I can't seem to figure out how a 9,000 acre solar/wind facility would shut down a 600,000 acre multi-use area...especially when there are windmills in various other regions in the state and other areas of BLM multi-use seem to function just fine. Research is a good thing... Ok. Let me you ask a 'pointed' question. Do you support Harry Reid? No. I have never support or voted for Harry Reid. But your current comment (s ) indicate differently. Does the definition of hypocrisy come to mind? I always attempt to avoid the least indication of hypocrisy or conflict of interest along w/ jealousy and envy.............................. Perhaps I am. However symbolically speaking I am SUPPORTING The U.S. Constitution, States Rights. And the FACT remains that the Feds (BLM ) were on State Owned Land enforcing something that The LOCAL County Sherriff was responsible for.....................
It all ended when the sheriff ended it. Fact. He sure didn't want to...tried to say it was a federal issue...anything! Lol...a few somebody's finally had the law read back to them. |
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| This may have been posted on the other thread, a letter ( if authentic) from Clive's daughter explaining how it got to this point. Hope this helps Finney, it is not a matter of he wants a free ride, he paisd his fees for years.
Here the letter just receive from Bundy’s daughter, Shiree Bundy Cox “I have had people ask me to explain my dad’s stance on this BLM fight. Here it is in as simple of terms as I can explain it. There is so much to it, but here it is in a nut shell. My great grandpa bought the rights to the Bunkerville allotment back in 1887 or around there. Then he sold them to my grandpa who then turned them over to my dad in 1972. These men bought and paid for their rights to the range and also built waters, fences and roads to assure the survival of their cattle, all with their own money, not with tax dollars. These rights to the land use are called preemptive rights. Somewhere down the line, to keep the cows from overgrazing, came the bureau of land management. They were supposed to assist the ranchers in the management of their ranges while the ranchers paid a yearly allotment which was to be use to pay the BLM wages and to help with repairs and improvements of the ranches. [my highlighting, Don] My dad did pay his grazing fees for years to the BLM until they were no longer using his fees to help him and to improve. Instead they began using these moneys against the ranchers. They bought all the rest of the ranchers in the area out with their own grazing fees. When they offered to buy my dad out for a pittance he said no thanks and then fired them because they weren’t doing their job. He quit paying the BLM but tried giving his grazing fees to the county, which they turned down. So my dad just went on running his ranch and making his own improvements with his own equipment and his own money, not taxes. In essence the BLM was managing my dad out of business. Well when buying him out didn’t work, they used the endangered species card. You’ve already heard about the desert tortoise. Well that didn’t work either, so then began the threats and the court orders, which my dad has proven to be unlawful for all these years. Now they’re desperate. It’s come down to buying the brand inspector off and threatening the County Sheriff. Everything they’re doing at this point is illegal and totally against the constitution of the United States of America. Now you may be saying, “how sad, but what does this have to do with me?” Well, I’ll tell you. They will get rid of Cliven Bundy, the last man standing on the Bunkerville allotment and then they will close all the roads so no one can ever go on it again. Next, it’s Utah’s turn. Mark my words, Utah is next. Then there’s the issue of the cattle that are at this moment being stolen. See even if dad hasn’t paid them, those cattle do belong to him. Regardless of where the cattle is my father’s property. His herd has been part of that range for over a hundred years, long before the BLM even existed. Now the Feds think they can just come in and remove them and sell them without a legal brand inspection or without my dad’s signature on it. They think they can take them over two borders, which is illegal – ask any trucker. Then they plan to take them to the Richfield Auction and sell them. All with our tax money. They have paid off the contract cowboys and the auction owner as well as the Nevada brand inspector with our tax dollars. See how slick they are? Well, this is it in a nut shell. Thanks” Shiree Bundy Cox PS We Need you to show up tomorrow April 12th. We need lots – tons of people now. Date: April 12, 2014
Time: 8am - BLM goes home
Place: Bunkerville Exit on I-15, 3 miles south of Mesquite. Go east 2 miles toward Bunkerville.
Bring: sun protection, its getting hot. Water, food, cameras.
DO NOT bring: Guns or wear Cammo patterned clothing. This needs to be peaceful law-abiding people showing support. No more, no less. PPS – Please forward this to friends. |
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Googly Goo
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| musikmaker - 2014-04-13 1:06 PM bscanchaser - 2014-04-13 12:01 PM foundation horse - 2014-04-13 12:59 PM TXBO - 2014-04-13 12:56 PM musikmaker - 2014-04-13 12:33 PM bscanchaser - 2014-04-13 11:05 AM daisycake123 - 2014-04-13 11:42 AM It was not about the taxes, or the turtles. It is about a the land those cows where on and harry reid building some solar/wind farm. look through the other threads andmthere a news release. But those blm thugs and snaipers there are better ways to handle, you need to read there the mainstream media propaganda and find the real truth. Harry Reid must have been some kind of amazing to be able to predict a solar/wind development would be installed 21 years after the BLM cancelled the permit. Guess its about like the fracking article that tried to connect the dots between the BLM land Bundy was trespassing on and the actual fracking permit that was sold for Elko County...300 miles away. I agree 100% with the OP and have talked to several Northern Nevada ranchers the feel like they were just slapped in the face because this guy takes resources that the rest pay for. This whole deal has made Democrats out of a whole lot of people I thought were Republicans. I have never seen so many people jump on a bandwagon in support of free services/rights/entitlement since the first Obama election.
The 'mainstream media' is handling this with kid gloves...they didn't report anything until it was over...woosies.
Yesterday was a good day in America!
Speaking of Selective Law Enforcement............What is the difference between this BLM Event (which could actually have originally been legit ) and the lack of INS to round up and deport Illegal Aliens on such a scale as happened in Nevada? Selective enforcement? Research the Dann sisters, Leonard Crutcher and the Casey's. All illegally grazed in Nevada and all were handled the exact same with stock being rounded up by the BLM and sold at auction.
True but the two judges that ordered him to remove the cattle are absolutely a legitimate constitutionally granted authority. |
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Nicknameless
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Location: I can see the end of the world from here! | TXBO - 2014-04-13 12:12 PM musikmaker - 2014-04-13 1:06 PM bscanchaser - 2014-04-13 12:01 PM foundation horse - 2014-04-13 12:59 PM TXBO - 2014-04-13 12:56 PM musikmaker - 2014-04-13 12:33 PM bscanchaser - 2014-04-13 11:05 AM daisycake123 - 2014-04-13 11:42 AM It was not about the taxes, or the turtles. It is about a the land those cows where on and harry reid building some solar/wind farm. look through the other threads andmthere a news release. But those blm thugs and snaipers there are better ways to handle, you need to read there the mainstream media propaganda and find the real truth. Harry Reid must have been some kind of amazing to be able to predict a solar/wind development would be installed 21 years after the BLM cancelled the permit. Guess its about like the fracking article that tried to connect the dots between the BLM land Bundy was trespassing on and the actual fracking permit that was sold for Elko County...300 miles away. I agree 100% with the OP and have talked to several Northern Nevada ranchers the feel like they were just slapped in the face because this guy takes resources that the rest pay for. This whole deal has made Democrats out of a whole lot of people I thought were Republicans. I have never seen so many people jump on a bandwagon in support of free services/rights/entitlement since the first Obama election.
The 'mainstream media' is handling this with kid gloves...they didn't report anything until it was over...woosies.
Yesterday was a good day in America!
Speaking of Selective Law Enforcement............What is the difference between this BLM Event (which could actually have originally been legit ) and the lack of INS to round up and deport Illegal Aliens on such a scale as happened in Nevada? Selective enforcement? Research the Dann sisters, Leonard Crutcher and the Casey's. All illegally grazed in Nevada and all were handled the exact same with stock being rounded up by the BLM and sold at auction.
Are they? Our judicial system is the biggest joke of all...
Remember the 9th Amendment.
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Googly Goo
Posts: 7053
| musikmaker - 2014-04-13 1:10 PM TXBO - 2014-04-13 12:07 PM foundation horse - 2014-04-13 1:02 PM bscanchaser - 2014-04-13 12:58 PM foundation horse - 2014-04-13 12:50 PM bscanchaser - 2014-04-13 12:43 PM foundation horse - 2014-04-13 12:37 PM bscanchaser - 2014-04-13 12:33 PM foundation horse - 2014-04-13 12:15 PM bscanchaser - 2014-04-13 12:05 PM daisycake123 - 2014-04-13 11:42 AM It was not about the taxes, or the turtles. It is about a the land those cows where on and harry reid building some solar/wind farm. look through the other threads andmthere a news release. But those blm thugs and snaipers there are better ways to handle, you need to read there the mainstream media propaganda and find the real truth. Harry Reid must have been some kind of amazing to be able to predict a solar/wind development would be installed 21 years after the BLM cancelled the permit. Guess its about like the fracking article that tried to connect the dots between the BLM land Bundy was trespassing on and the actual fracking permit that was sold for Elko County...300 miles away. I agree 100% with the OP and have talked to several Northern Nevada ranchers the feel like they were just slapped in the face because this guy takes resources that the rest pay for. This whole deal has made Democrats out of a whole lot of people I thought were Republicans. I have never seen so many people jump on a bandwagon in support of free services/rights/entitlement since the first Obama election. Bscanchaser, are you familiar with the reports that Harry Reid and Son are involved w/ China and Nevada Land for Energy Production? And these 'goings on' are dated to back to 2003 minimally. Historical Research is a good thing. Also Obama and The Rest of The Executive Branch of Government is heavily influenced by The Chinese Government due to Chinese Government holding so much FEDERAL not State Debt. Yes I have read about this. For some reason I can't seem to figure out how a 9,000 acre solar/wind facility would shut down a 600,000 acre multi-use area...especially when there are windmills in various other regions in the state and other areas of BLM multi-use seem to function just fine. Research is a good thing... Ok. Let me you ask a 'pointed' question. Do you support Harry Reid? No. I have never support or voted for Harry Reid. But your current comment (s ) indicate differently. Does the definition of hypocrisy come to mind? I always attempt to avoid the least indication of hypocrisy or conflict of interest along w/ jealousy and envy.............................. Perhaps I am. However symbolically speaking I am SUPPORTING The U.S. Constitution, States Rights. And the FACT remains that the Feds (BLM ) were on State Owned Land enforcing something that The LOCAL County Sherriff was responsible for.....................
No, he shouldn't have allowed him to illegally graze that land for 20 years. |
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Googly Goo
Posts: 7053
| musikmaker - 2014-04-13 1:16 PM TXBO - 2014-04-13 12:12 PM musikmaker - 2014-04-13 1:06 PM bscanchaser - 2014-04-13 12:01 PM foundation horse - 2014-04-13 12:59 PM TXBO - 2014-04-13 12:56 PM musikmaker - 2014-04-13 12:33 PM bscanchaser - 2014-04-13 11:05 AM daisycake123 - 2014-04-13 11:42 AM It was not about the taxes, or the turtles. It is about a the land those cows where on and harry reid building some solar/wind farm. look through the other threads andmthere a news release. But those blm thugs and snaipers there are better ways to handle, you need to read there the mainstream media propaganda and find the real truth. Harry Reid must have been some kind of amazing to be able to predict a solar/wind development would be installed 21 years after the BLM cancelled the permit. Guess its about like the fracking article that tried to connect the dots between the BLM land Bundy was trespassing on and the actual fracking permit that was sold for Elko County...300 miles away. I agree 100% with the OP and have talked to several Northern Nevada ranchers the feel like they were just slapped in the face because this guy takes resources that the rest pay for. This whole deal has made Democrats out of a whole lot of people I thought were Republicans. I have never seen so many people jump on a bandwagon in support of free services/rights/entitlement since the first Obama election.
The 'mainstream media' is handling this with kid gloves...they didn't report anything until it was over...woosies.
Yesterday was a good day in America!
Speaking of Selective Law Enforcement............What is the difference between this BLM Event (which could actually have originally been legit ) and the lack of INS to round up and deport Illegal Aliens on such a scale as happened in Nevada? Selective enforcement? Research the Dann sisters, Leonard Crutcher and the Casey's. All illegally grazed in Nevada and all were handled the exact same with stock being rounded up by the BLM and sold at auction.
Remember the 9th Amendment.
If you challenge the constitutional authority of the judiciary, I understand why I don't get many of your other constitutional arguments. Lol! |
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 Proud to be Deplorable
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| TXBO - 2014-04-13 1:07 PM
foundation horse - 2014-04-13 1:02 PM bscanchaser - 2014-04-13 12:58 PM foundation horse - 2014-04-13 12:50 PM bscanchaser - 2014-04-13 12:43 PM foundation horse - 2014-04-13 12:37 PM bscanchaser - 2014-04-13 12:33 PM foundation horse - 2014-04-13 12:15 PM bscanchaser - 2014-04-13 12:05 PM daisycake123 - 2014-04-13 11:42 AM It was not about the taxes, or the turtles. It is about a the land those cows where on and harry reid building some solar/wind farm. look through the other threads andmthere a news release. But those blm thugs and snaipers there are better ways to handle, you need to read there the mainstream media propaganda and find the real truth. Harry Reid must have been some kind of amazing to be able to predict a solar/wind development would be installed 21 years after the BLM cancelled the permit. Guess its about like the fracking article that tried to connect the dots between the BLM land Bundy was trespassing on and the actual fracking permit that was sold for Elko County...300 miles away. I agree 100% with the OP and have talked to several Northern Nevada ranchers the feel like they were just slapped in the face because this guy takes resources that the rest pay for. This whole deal has made Democrats out of a whole lot of people I thought were Republicans. I have never seen so many people jump on a bandwagon in support of free services/rights/entitlement since the first Obama election. Bscanchaser, are you familiar with the reports that Harry Reid and Son are involved w/ China and Nevada Land for Energy Production? And these 'goings on' are dated to back to 2003 minimally. Historical Research is a good thing. Also Obama and The Rest of The Executive Branch of Government is heavily influenced by The Chinese Government due to Chinese Government holding so much FEDERAL not State Debt. Yes I have read about this. For some reason I can't seem to figure out how a 9,000 acre solar/wind facility would shut down a 600,000 acre multi-use area...especially when there are windmills in various other regions in the state and other areas of BLM multi-use seem to function just fine. Research is a good thing... Ok. Let me you ask a 'pointed' question. Do you support Harry Reid? No. I have never support or voted for Harry Reid. But your current comment (s ) indicate differently. Does the definition of hypocrisy come to mind? I always attempt to avoid the least indication of hypocrisy or conflict of interest along w/ jealousy and envy.............................. Perhaps I am. However symbolically speaking I am SUPPORTING The U.S. Constitution, States Rights. And the FACT remains that the Feds (BLM ) were on State Owned Land enforcing something that The LOCAL County Sherriff was responsible for.....................
Where has it been said that an agent from a Federal Court presented a court order to the Sheriff to enact? To say that he failed to do his duties is a reach. Isn't it odd thou as soon as the Sheriff did get involved the BLM backed down.....Hmmmmm I wonder why. |
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