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| ThreeCorners - 2014-04-23 2:20 PM
And back to the origional question, along with Zan Parr Bar, I also like Doc Olena and Peppy San Badger. Â
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Location: Kansas | jlrace - 2014-04-23 2:10 PM Oh Aush I wish I was a fly on the wall when you guys were having this discussion! Since I know you know what I ride: my little brown mare that runs barrels & heels is a Doc O Lena, Peppy San Badger, Doc Bar. The buckskin & grey that rope and run barrels are Peppy San, Wimpy, Two Eyed Jack and Three Bars.
LMAO it was pretty hilarious.....even had anna giggling during the converstation!
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| Never had bad luck with Coronal Freckles breed horses. Ive always found them to be a bit bigger and streachier than the average areana breed cow horse. I love all the top cow lines though for the areana. I want to breed my cutting breed mare to a streakin six breed stud one day. (Shes by a pepto son out of a coronal freckles daughter)
I also really like Driftwood, and am searching high and low for a high precentage daughter.
The two eyed jack that was here was a jam up rope horse, he was my FILs when he was younger. He was also poco cowman. I also have had great luck with heavily breed poco beauno breed horses and would like another.
Oddly enfough though the best heel horse we ever had had Impressive on his papers ... twice lol. That horse was a extremely large bucket of cool, we have yet to min anything that holds a candle to Rusty. |
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Location: Oklahoma | hoofs_in_motion - 2014-04-23 7:53 AM
My boyfriend and I got into a heated debate last night (LOL) about what type of cowbred mares would produce quality offspring that could be roped off or ran barrels on
I have my favorites when it comes to what is on the papers....and he has.....well....his favorites. What would be the typical names you would want to see on a mares papers when crossed on a running bred stallion?
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I personally prefer running bred mares crossed on a cowbred stallion, as it's said the run comes from the bottom side. Also, the large heart gene comes from the maternal side, so I won't buy cow/run crosses out of cow mares crossed on a running stud. I look for the opposite cross....I think you have a better chance of getting a good barrel/rope horse when they're crossed that way. JMO |
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| I have had good luck with my Doc O Lena mare and really love her filly by my son of Special Leader. I also have a colt now by the Special Leader stud and out of a Grandaughter of Reminic. He already has some moves. I owned the Reminic stud and he crossed really well on race bred mares. The Reminics are super snappy and quick and not slow, or at least mine weren't.
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Location: Nebraska | dianeguinn - 2014-04-23 4:19 PM hoofs_in_motion - 2014-04-23 7:53 AM My boyfriend and I got into a heated debate last night (LOL) about what type of cowbred mares would produce quality offspring that could be roped off or ran barrels on
I have my favorites when it comes to what is on the papers....and he has.....well....his favorites. What would be the typical names you would want to see on a mares papers when crossed on a running bred stallion?
I personally prefer running bred mares crossed on a cowbred stallion, as it's said the run comes from the bottom side. Also, the large heart gene comes from the maternal side, so I won't buy cow/run crosses out of cow mares crossed on a running stud. I look for the opposite cross....I think you have a better chance of getting a good barrel/rope horse when they're crossed that way. JMO
However, if the stud is running bred and has a large heart isn't it always passed on to his daughters? Also, I think the large heart gene is only carried on one of the X's, there's what a 50% chance that it will be passed on if the mare has it? |
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Location: Nebraska | To the OP, I love my Smart Little Lena mare. I also have a Mr. San Peppy mare who was crossed on a running bred stud that has had a couple really nice babies. I rode a Doc O'lena mare that was athletic as all get out, too. Love cowbreds! |
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Location: bring on the heat, NV | I agree with wanting the run on the maternal side. Now heres the kicker for me. Our friends who rope will ride running breds but they say they are too hot (almost always have to Ace them). Same horses also are hard to brand calves on. They are wanting all cow now? Im a big fan of two eyed jack grandget, Zan Parr bar, hancock on the maternal side, id like to try a jackie bee, and all oklahoma star bred horses. Oh driftwood goes without saying.
Chic Please has some nice looking horses on the ground and one for sure doing really well in roping. I think we will see a bit more paddys irish whiskey bred horses soon since there are so many geared toward ranch events.
We are doing about the same thing breeding wise. Im picking up a linebred two eyed jack colt this fall. Im going to maybe sell another horse and pick up a two eyed redbuck filly or two eyed jack crossed on a zan parr bar colt as well.
http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/reds+nevada+felicia my new four year old who i would never of bought if id have looked at her papers lol!
http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/ffq+pocos+foxy+flash this is my broodmare. shes about to drop a foal by a running stud. I hope its a filly because she is a chronic founder case and I dont want to put her through carrying another. Only thing im not a fan of is the skippers they are frowned upon around here... LUcky blanton was a good rope horse, poco has given her some serious cow, and those fritzs are know for good attitudes ad big stops.
http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/hfr+rosie we have this mare and although long in the back I almost like everything else about her... She is just sort of edgy and sulls up not the sort of mind we want so she is up for sale. Her daughter is also for sale out of a nice cutting stud... Super athletic though its that edge that bothers me its great for cutting I think but isnt really user friendly.
I think it be easier to sell both ways if sired by a barrel stud and out of your roping mares too.
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| I have a mare with Poco Tivio, Poco Bueno, and Doc Bar on her papers. She's very athletic, smart, and has a lot of substance. For sure can say I'd buy another horse bred similar! |
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Location: Four Corners Colorado | This is my Cow on race mare
http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/olena+dunit+dashin
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Location: relocated to Texas | dianeguinn - 2014-04-24 3:19 PM hoofs_in_motion - 2014-04-23 7:53 AM My boyfriend and I got into a heated debate last night (LOL) about what type of cowbred mares would produce quality offspring that could be roped off or ran barrels on
I have my favorites when it comes to what is on the papers....and he has.....well....his favorites. What would be the typical names you would want to see on a mares papers when crossed on a running bred stallion?
I personally prefer running bred mares crossed on a cowbred stallion, as it's said the run comes from the bottom side. Also, the large heart gene comes from the maternal side, so I won't buy cow/run crosses out of cow mares crossed on a running stud. I look for the opposite cross....I think you have a better chance of getting a good barrel/rope horse when they're crossed that way. JMO
I don't agree with this. I always look for a mix of run/cow in my horses and more of them have been out of cowbred mares/running studs. There are a lot of good horses out there running and in the roping pen that are bred this way. It may be your personal preference, but there are too many good horses performing at levels that would prove this theory wrong.
For the OP, I like Driftwood, Doc O Lena, Peppy San Badger and more Driftwood
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Location: Texas | This mare is run on top, cow on bottom. Wouldn't trade her for the world. She is my sister's horse. 19 years old this year and running the best she has ever run for my sister.
http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/doc+o+flits+honor
For the horses we are breeding to, all our mares are running bred. I like to breed to get either 100% run, or 3/4 run and 1/4 cow.
I have seen good results with shining spark grandget in the barrel pen.. I love genuine doc. |
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Location: 100 miles from Nowhere, AR | I've had run x cow crosses bred both ways and have no preference. |
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Location: Kansas | I'm big on cowbred cross on a running stallion....but I'm cross my blue roan mare to a peptoboonsmal/shining spark stallion this year, and an own red roan son of peptoboonsmal next year.......we would rotate mares crossed on running bred stallions each year. |
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