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Location: Riding Crackhead. | Just Bring It - 2014-04-29 12:20 PM CYA Ranch - 2014-04-29 12:01 PM HotbearLVR - 2014-04-29 11:44 AM The Race for the Roses is going on this weekend at the Red Horse Ranch Arena. I'm paid into the slot race in poles and am going, but I'm not going to stall there overnight. I'll just pay the jump out fee. I'm really itching to make a run somewhere, but I'm not going to haul 2-3 horses and keep them there overnight like I have done in the past. I'm going to warm up, make my runs and haul back home. Besides I'm only a half hour away. I have a feeling the turnout won't be as good as usual, but maybe I'm wrong. I'm really surprised Race for the Roses hasn't been postponed. Renea Bolling caught all kinds of hell for not postponing but yet this one is close to affected area and continues on without any flack.
I had 2 entered in Huron for Sunday and I drew out. Even though its a one day run and no stalling I thought it best to keep monitoring my horses temps for another week just to make sure. With these indoor runs and the cruddy weather that's a lot of horses close together inside the barns. Losing one of my own horses would be devastating but if one of mine passes something along to someone else I'd never forgive myself. I'm not having any 2nd thoughts about the fact that I went to the Bonus Finals but I will monitor and make sure my horses are healthy before I take off for the next run. |
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Location: South Dakota | CYA Ranch - 2014-04-29 12:01 PM HotbearLVR - 2014-04-29 11:44 AM The Race for the Roses is going on this weekend at the Red Horse Ranch Arena. I'm paid into the slot race in poles and am going, but I'm not going to stall there overnight. I'll just pay the jump out fee. I'm really itching to make a run somewhere, but I'm not going to haul 2-3 horses and keep them there overnight like I have done in the past. I'm going to warm up, make my runs and haul back home. Besides I'm only a half hour away. I have a feeling the turnout won't be as good as usual, but maybe I'm wrong. I'm really surprised Race for the Roses hasn't been postponed. Renea Bolling caught all kinds of hell for not postponing but yet this one is close to affected area and continues on without any flack.
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Location: So. California | UTAHCANCHASER - 2014-04-29 9:29 AM When the outbreak hit Utah in 2011 everything was shut down for about a month. I wish people would realize how serious this is and that there will always be another barrel race....
And this affected all the western states, we just stayed home for 30 days. Cancelled all plans... There is always another barrel race, event, etc. |
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| The most frustrating thing is that everyone wants to get back to normal and be able to haul And get out, everyone feels the same way about that no doubt.... But assuming Race for Roses does go on, and any cases come out of the event full knowing that there will be more than several horses who were potentially exposed at BRF will be in attendance then we are right back to square one and will be having to cancel and delay events even further into the season that is already off to a very late start because of this mess. Idk what the right thing is, maybe it will go off without any issues. Maybe it won't. I hope that's not the case. |
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Location: Riding Crackhead. | rockinas - 2014-04-29 12:44 PM CYA Ranch - 2014-04-29 12:01 PM HotbearLVR - 2014-04-29 11:44 AM The Race for the Roses is going on this weekend at the Red Horse Ranch Arena. I'm paid into the slot race in poles and am going, but I'm not going to stall there overnight. I'll just pay the jump out fee. I'm really itching to make a run somewhere, but I'm not going to haul 2-3 horses and keep them there overnight like I have done in the past. I'm going to warm up, make my runs and haul back home. Besides I'm only a half hour away. I have a feeling the turnout won't be as good as usual, but maybe I'm wrong. I'm really surprised Race for the Roses hasn't been postponed. Renea Bolling caught all kinds of hell for not postponing but yet this one is close to affected area and continues on without any flack.
I am afraid I might be looking at scratching.
It's just not worth it.
Had the weather been sunny & 70 all week it'd be different.
Instead it's been in the 30s and 40s and rain/snow and that is stressful on these horses that have been used to 60/70 degree temps and now don't have a winter coat. Or at least mine don't have much hair left.
Mine lost most of their hair also. In fact the 3 I had at Lincoln I've got blanketed and keeping them in the barn as much as possible during the wind/rain to relieve as much of the stress as possible. I figure with the close contact they had in Lincoln added to the stress of the weather, added to the stress of getting a thermometer up their butt daily......they probably want to run away from home.  |
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| Not happy with the producers who chose not to postpone. "The show must go on" attitude is quite irresponsible. But ultimately it's the competitor's decision to enter or not. And if several are choosing to turn-out, why wouldn't the producers decide to postpone and possibly have a better turnout later in the year? Doesn't make sense to me. |
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Location: MO | CYA Ranch - 2014-04-29 11:57 AM Barrels&Babies - 2014-04-29 10:56 AM northerngirl - 2014-04-29 10:43 AM Timber Creek - 2014-04-29 10:36 AM Is the second horse being treated? I wasn't sure? It says the timeline is the same meaning the horse showed symptoms on 4/24? I'm not sure if I'm reading this right. On the BRF facebook page, it says the 2nd horse from KS was also put down last week. Yes. That's true. That horse was also euthanized on the 24th. The same day as Mama. Both horses were stalled in the same general area in barn 2.
The affected horses in row T 350/351 were at the alleyway end of the barn where the bathrooms were as you came in from pavillion 3 (warm up arena). I think I read that correctly from the other EHV-1 & BRF post. Please go check that post out as well if you are concerned. B&B has been up fornt and very honest, helpful with everything considering what she is going through.  |
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| The horse in Kansas is pending official notification. The Kansas State Vet confirmed that the horse was potentially exposed to EHV-1. The tissue was tested and retested. The results from a lab in Kentucky should make a complete diagnoses.
The gelding that was put down was owned by a responsible owner who takes immaculate care of her horses. This can happen to anyone and the kindness expressed to horse owners who have contracted this has been greatly appreciated.
If you went to the Bonus Race check your horses temp's twice a day. Call you vet, research EHV-1 and do not take this virus lightly.
The official report on the EHV-1 in Kansas should be released today. The race in Toepka tomorrow has been cancelled.
The Bonus Race FB has been keeping up to date on the outbreaks also.
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Location: mn | EmtRoper - 2014-04-29 12:15 PM CYA Ranch - 2014-04-29 12:01 PM HotbearLVR - 2014-04-29 11:44 AM The Race for the Roses is going on this weekend at the Red Horse Ranch Arena. I'm paid into the slot race in poles and am going, but I'm not going to stall there overnight. I'll just pay the jump out fee. I'm really itching to make a run somewhere, but I'm not going to haul 2-3 horses and keep them there overnight like I have done in the past. I'm going to warm up, make my runs and haul back home. Besides I'm only a half hour away. I have a feeling the turnout won't be as good as usual, but maybe I'm wrong. I'm really surprised Race for the Roses hasn't been postponed. Renea Bolling caught all kinds of hell for not postponing but yet this one is close to affected area and continues on without any flack. Agreed it has been made VERY clear that this event will go on. And that even if a vet will not give health papers to travel you will not be refunded because they are "not required" for this event. I do feel it would be for the best if it was postponed but it simply isnt happening which is very sad.  I don't understand this. Really disappointing. If we see another wave of this, and I think we will because obviously we are not in the clear, events scehduled in May and June will be in jeopardy of being canceled, and we'll all be sitting home again.
Why did other states wait 30 days?? They were able to get rid of it quickly. Sure wish we could sit tight a little while longer. I think this is going to be a mistake.
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Location: Kansas | LabRat - 2014-04-29 12:53 PM Not happy with the producers who chose not to postpone. "The show must go on" attitude is quite irresponsible. But ultimately it's the competitor's decision to enter or not. And if several are choosing to turn-out, why wouldn't the producers decide to postpone and possibly have a better turnout later in the year? Doesn't make sense to me.
Last time this was going around, I was told (and I can't say how reliable that information is) that KS NBHA was going to be stuck paying for the facility that weekend even if no horses showed up. (I looked at results from 2011 online today and there were probably 40 of the nearly 300 entered who scratched and stayed home) It was a bad deal and I didn't envy the state director at all having to make that decision. She was pretty much in a no-win situation, like she will be this year again. Fees were due April 11th, so everyone who entered & then went to Lincoln probably dropped the check in the mail on their way out the driveway like I did, and now we're all going to have to make decisions about whether we go or not after the money is spent. |
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Location: Riding Crackhead. | Shushi - 2014-04-29 12:54 PM CYA Ranch - 2014-04-29 11:57 AM Barrels&Babies - 2014-04-29 10:56 AM northerngirl - 2014-04-29 10:43 AM Timber Creek - 2014-04-29 10:36 AM Is the second horse being treated? I wasn't sure? It says the timeline is the same meaning the horse showed symptoms on 4/24? I'm not sure if I'm reading this right. On the BRF facebook page, it says the 2nd horse from KS was also put down last week. Yes. That's true. That horse was also euthanized on the 24th. The same day as Mama. Both horses were stalled in the same general area in barn 2.
I was row T also but I believe on the backside of the affected horses but I can't pinpoint exactly which ones of my horses were nose to nose. I guess at this point it doesn't make any difference I was just curious. I was T 345-347. |
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| rodeowithjoker - 2014-04-29 1:03 PM
LabRat - 2014-04-29 12:53 PM Not happy with the producers who chose not to postpone. "The show must go on" attitude is quite irresponsible. But ultimately it's the competitor's decision to enter or not. And if several are choosing to turn-out, why wouldn't the producers decide to postpone and possibly have a better turnout later in the year? Doesn't make sense to me.
Last time this was going around, I was told (and I can't say how reliable that information is) that KS NBHA was going to be stuck paying for the facility that weekend even if no horses showed up. (I looked at results from 2011 online today and there were probably 40 of the nearly 300 entered who scratched and stayed home) It was a bad deal and I didn't envy the state director at all having to make that decision. She was pretty much in a no-win situation, like she will be this year again. Fees were due April 11th, so everyone who entered & then went to Lincoln probably dropped the check in the mail on their way out the driveway like I did, and now we're all going to have to make decisions about whether we go or not after the money is spent.Â
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| rodeowithjoker - 2014-04-29 1:03 PM
LabRat - 2014-04-29 12:53 PM Not happy with the producers who chose not to postpone. "The show must go on" attitude is quite irresponsible. But ultimately it's the competitor's decision to enter or not. And if several are choosing to turn-out, why wouldn't the producers decide to postpone and possibly have a better turnout later in the year? Doesn't make sense to me.
Last time this was going around, I was told (and I can't say how reliable that information is) that KS NBHA was going to be stuck paying for the facility that weekend even if no horses showed up. (I looked at results from 2011 online today and there were probably 40 of the nearly 300 entered who scratched and stayed home) It was a bad deal and I didn't envy the state director at all having to make that decision. She was pretty much in a no-win situation, like she will be this year again. Fees were due April 11th, so everyone who entered & then went to Lincoln probably dropped the check in the mail on their way out the driveway like I did, and now we're all going to have to make decisions about whether we go or not after the money is spent.Â
I guess to the facility owners it's tough also however I would feel that allowing a reschedule for maybe one or 2 events during affected times/areas would be less loss than multiple weeks of cancellations because of holding producers feet to the fire over the decision to cancel or go on when this kind of issue is happening and allowing the issue to perpetuate and continue on. |
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | rockinas - 2014-04-29 12:44 PM CYA Ranch - 2014-04-29 12:01 PM HotbearLVR - 2014-04-29 11:44 AM The Race for the Roses is going on this weekend at the Red Horse Ranch Arena. I'm paid into the slot race in poles and am going, but I'm not going to stall there overnight. I'll just pay the jump out fee. I'm really itching to make a run somewhere, but I'm not going to haul 2-3 horses and keep them there overnight like I have done in the past. I'm going to warm up, make my runs and haul back home. Besides I'm only a half hour away. I have a feeling the turnout won't be as good as usual, but maybe I'm wrong. I'm really surprised Race for the Roses hasn't been postponed. Renea Bolling caught all kinds of hell for not postponing but yet this one is close to affected area and continues on without any flack.
I am afraid I might be looking at scratching.
It's just not worth it.
Had the weather been sunny & 70 all week it'd be different.
Instead it's been in the 30s and 40s and rain/snow and that is stressful on these horses that have been used to 60/70 degree temps and now don't have a winter coat. Or at least mine don't have much hair left.
I wouldn't go if I had to keep my horses with hundreds of others. Like I said, I'm going to sneek in, make my run, pick up my check (just kidding), and go home. In years past I hauled 3 horses, and stalled them all just because it's convenient, even though I live just a half hour away. Just too much uncertainty as far as I'm concerned. |
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Location: PNW | Anniemae - 2014-04-29 12:41 PM
UTAHCANCHASER - 2014-04-29 9:29 AM When the outbreak hit Utah in 2011 everything was shut down for about a month. I wish people would realize how serious this is and that there will always be another barrel race....
 And this affected all the western states, we just stayed home for 30 days. Cancelled all plans...  There is always another barrel race, event, etc. Â
Yep! It happened right around State Finals for the high school teams and I know in our area we even cancelled the little local playdays. BRN4D finals got rescheduled for August. The first big race I remember going to was the PGW at Pasco and that was AT LEAST a month after the outbreak. There's always another race, or another weekend to reschedule for. Prayers for all those affected and potentially affected. |
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Location: PNW | Has anybody "official" recommended that people from BBR check temps and quarantine? I know there have got to be tons of people who went from the BRF to the BBR. Wouldn't it be better to "assume" that BBR was an affected event also and take the necessary, not fun precautions? |
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Location: North Central Kansas | Where at in Kansas was the horse that was euthanize from? I was up at the brf but in pavilion 3. I have been to two local races since then and am planning on going to a race in Logan on saturday and then am hauling 3 horses to state NBHA. |
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Location: flatlands | rodeowithjoker - 2014-04-29 1:03 PM LabRat - 2014-04-29 12:53 PM Not happy with the producers who chose not to postpone. "The show must go on" attitude is quite irresponsible. But ultimately it's the competitor's decision to enter or not. And if several are choosing to turn-out, why wouldn't the producers decide to postpone and possibly have a better turnout later in the year? Doesn't make sense to me. Last time this was going around, I was told (and I can't say how reliable that information is) that KS NBHA was going to be stuck paying for the facility that weekend even if no horses showed up. (I looked at results from 2011 online today and there were probably 40 of the nearly 300 entered who scratched and stayed home) It was a bad deal and I didn't envy the state director at all having to make that decision. She was pretty much in a no-win situation, like she will be this year again. Fees were due April 11th, so everyone who entered & then went to Lincoln probably dropped the check in the mail on their way out the driveway like I did, and now we're all going to have to make decisions about whether we go or not after the money is spent.
I know of at least three of us from Western KS that pleaded with the state director to take out her barn and office fees and to return to us the difference intended for the payout. She didn't. It was concerning to us then because of the proximity to the CO/KS stateline. Colorado had a no-haul sanction for that particular week in May--no trailers in, no trailers out. It was lifted before Memorial Weekend. |
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Location: 'Hawk Country | Ashley Gustafson - 2014-04-29 1:14 PM rodeowithjoker - 2014-04-29 1:03 PM LabRat - 2014-04-29 12:53 PM Not happy with the producers who chose not to postpone. "The show must go on" attitude is quite irresponsible. But ultimately it's the competitor's decision to enter or not. And if several are choosing to turn-out, why wouldn't the producers decide to postpone and possibly have a better turnout later in the year? Doesn't make sense to me. Last time this was going around, I was told (and I can't say how reliable that information is) that KS NBHA was going to be stuck paying for the facility that weekend even if no horses showed up. (I looked at results from 2011 online today and there were probably 40 of the nearly 300 entered who scratched and stayed home) It was a bad deal and I didn't envy the state director at all having to make that decision. She was pretty much in a no-win situation, like she will be this year again. Fees were due April 11th, so everyone who entered & then went to Lincoln probably dropped the check in the mail on their way out the driveway like I did, and now we're all going to have to make decisions about whether we go or not after the money is spent. I guess to the facility owners it's tough also however I would feel that allowing a reschedule for maybe one or 2 events during affected times/areas would be less loss than multiple weeks of cancellations because of holding producers feet to the fire over the decision to cancel or go on when this kind of issue is happening and allowing the issue to perpetuate and continue on.
I spoke directly with Rick Hardy about this as soon as the outbreak popped up. He said those of us who decided to stay home would receive a refund. But, then he let the state director decide not to.
People were willing to let the NBHA keep the processing fee which is suppose to cover the venue cost.
They were even willing to receive a 75% refund of entry fees, but no refund was an option.
The USTRC cancelled a roping in Kansas that weekend.
I think someone sent a sign as there was a tornado and hail. The entry fees I lost was a lot less than the hail damage my rig would have gotten. 
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Location: Southern Wisconsin | CYA Ranch - 2014-04-29 1:08 PM
Shushi - 2014-04-29 12:54 PM CYA Ranch - 2014-04-29 11:57 AM Barrels&Babies - 2014-04-29 10:56 AM northerngirl - 2014-04-29 10:43 AM Timber Creek - 2014-04-29 10:36 AM Is the second horse being treated?  I wasn't sure? It says the timeline is the same meaning the horse showed symptoms on 4/24? I'm not sure if I'm reading this right.  On the BRF facebook page, it says the 2nd horse from KS was also put down last week. Yes. That's true. That horse was also euthanized on the 24th. The same day as Mama. Both horses were stalled in the same general area in barn 2.
If it helps at all both our horses had pretty noticeable blankets. One had a red PHT with zebra squares. The other had a customized BOT blanket on. It had white/pink/black fabric stitched onto the straps. |
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