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Location: East Tennessee but who knows?! | LRQHS - 2014-05-09 12:09 PM
hmmmmm.....I wonder what the statistics are now? I work in Trauma and don't know of any English rider head injuries, but do know of a few serious Western rider head injuries....including a couple of deaths. Now, I'm curious. Could certainly be my area, but we do fly in a bunch so it's not just this general area that would be sent to us.
I think a lot of it is a culture thing. Hunter/ Dressage/ Jumpers/ Eventers can not fathom riding without a helmet because it is absolutely required in every single event they go to whether you are schooling or showing. To them, riding without a helmet is like a barrel racer racing without saddle. It is deeply ingrained in the english world, and again an absolute requirement so thats part of where her attitude is coming from. Barrel racers can be the same way on other things too. As far as trauma cases, there has been a couple of severe head injuries and deaths of Eventers the last few months. In each case I think it had to do with a jump---- and most likely a pretty advanced jump. A helment isn't fail proof but it sure does helps the odds and can mean the difference between life or death, or being a vegetable. I think it is a personal choice, however having shown hunter quite a bit and being a judge, I don't really get why people get so upset when a show or facility requires wearing one. |
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Location: Northeast Nebraska | AngieM1 - 2014-05-09 12:06 PM I have spoken to both the barn owner, and manager. They'd have no issues with me riding without one. She is juts being extremely difficult. It makes it very uncomfortable for myself and people around me. Im ready to snap. 
So snap all over her nosy ass. I guarantee when I got done with her she would never even look at me again, let alone speak to me. I do wear a helmet though. Well, I will again when my yearling is old enough to ride. I'm kind of looking forward to shopping for one, it's been over 10 years since I rode.
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| I probably tell her that last time I checked, this was still a somewhat free country and as an adult am able and capable of making my own decisions. End of story. |
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| Tell her every time she mentions a helmet to you, you're going to tell one of her students how stupid they look in a helmet. |
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Hungarian Midget Woman
Location: Midwest | TXBO - 2014-05-09 5:30 PM Tell her every time she mentions a helmet to you, you're going to tell one of her students how stupid they look in a helmet.
this is my favorite answer thus far |
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Location: Slipping down the slope of old age. Boo hoo. | She may have a very personal reason for being so persistent. Why not ask her why she is so persistent? It IS a personal choice and in all honesty I cringe when I see motorcycle riders without one, too. Twice helmets have saved my husband's life in motorcycle incidents. Twice! About two years ago a helmet saved me from brain injury when my mare decided to unseat me and caught me with a hoof when I hit the ground. If I'd not had the helmet -- who knows? I took a pretty sound whack on the head - and because of the helmet, got up and walked away with no issue. Otherwise, I would have probably had a very serious TBI. It's such a simple and easy thing to do to protect yourself and your children. But, it is a choice. I would simply ask this lady why she is so persistent -- hear her story and then explain your reason for deciding not to wear one. I can tell you - once a helmet has saved someone you love OR you have had a loved one or friend receive a TBI and become disabled, you DO become very loud about the need to wear them....and it's difficult to sit there and watch people risk themselves knowing how their lives and their loved ones lives will change forever in the blink of an eye. It's not just yourself you risk - someone has to take care of you after that brain injury.....
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Location: Central Montana | TXBO - 2014-05-09 4:30 PM Tell her every time she mentions a helmet to you, you're going to tell one of her students how stupid they look in a helmet.
This makes me cringe.
That is the reason a lot of people don't wear them is they think they looks stupid or they look like they don't know what they are doing. That is the fartherst thing from the truth .... they are the smartest of all to wear one and protect their head.
I would just say you've spoken with the owners and they have told you they are not required and until they require them you aren't going to wear one.
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Location: MD | tell her to mind her own. i was temporarily at a boarding barn that was primarily english trail riders who would preach to me over and over about my lack of helmet use. I said, "Thank you for your concern for me but I'm an adult and can make the choice to wear one." If this keeps going on get sassy on her arse. I had to a few times because ladies wouldn't drop it. I don't understand why people think they can talk to you this way when in no way does it involve them. |
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| GoinJettin - 2014-05-10 6:07 PM
TXBO - 2014-05-09 4:30 PM Tell her every time she mentions a helmet to you, you're going to tell one of her students how stupid they look in a helmet.
This makes me cringe.
That is the reason a lot of people don't wear them is they think they looks stupid or they look like they don't know what they are doing. That is the fartherst thing from the truth .... they are the smartest of all to wear one and protect their head.
I would just say you've spoken with the owners and they have told you they are not required and until they require them you aren't going to wear one.
That answer makes me cringe as well. Yes, it's a personal choice (and NY is under 18 NOT 18 and under) but that mentality is the reason a lot more people don't wear them. Because they think they'll look stupid or people will laugh at them. I'm the first to admit that I stopped wearing one the second I turned 18. While I completely agree that a cowboy hat is a lot more traditional for our discipline and looks better, making someone feel bad about wearing a helmet is a jerk move. Everyone is right though, if the owners are not worried about it, it's not really her business. It's one thing to voice her concern about it but persistently annoying you over it, isn't okay.
My vet found out I wasn't wearing a helmet when i had a pretty nasty spill and his words have tended to stick with me! "People that don't have the brains to wear a helmet, don't have any brains worth protecting."
A little harsh but a pretty effective wake up call!
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| TXBO - 2014-05-09 6:30 PM
Tell her every time she mentions a helmet to you, you're going to tell one of her students how stupid they look in a helmet.
I'd probably be a jerk to her, but not that kind of jerk. Sorry but I think that's absolutely awful. I am dissapoint. |
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The Advice Guru
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| For those who do wear helmets. And this goes to the comment about the motorcycle.
Helmets are only guarantees for one crash, just like a car seat, even if it is just a little bump, you should toss the helmet, and purchase another one. Please do not buy a used one as you do not know the history of the helmet
Sorry that is my rant for the day. |
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Location: Probably On the Road to the Next Barrel Race! | Holy cow...what a pushy busybody! Yup, several options...take the high road, and complain to the barn managers, or 2, be polite and tell her youve considered her advice, and chosen against it, but you appreciate her concern, or (my personal fave sarcasm...)...tell her when she starts wearing a helmet to drive, which is a far more dangerous undertaking than schooling a horse in an arena, that you will strongly re-think your current position LOL!! Good luck with the old *****y-body!! |
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Location: Up and over to the right | I'm a helmet wearer through all disciplines, I suffered a gnarly concussion a few years ago and I had a helmet on. I would have been dead w/o one. My barn requires one for all ages and disciplines and I'm in your neck of the woods. It weeds out some people from coming and prevents the chance of a lawsuit due to injury/death by a smidgen.
My thought is she is a nag so that her clients will still wear one if they see you w/o one. She definitely should get out of your business as you can do what you want as an adult. Talk w/ the owner and maybe she can settle this w/ the trainer. |
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Location: southeast Texas | I would just keep asking her "What?". She repeats herself, "What?", she repeats herself, "What?".
She might get tired of repeating herself every time she sees you with out a helmet. |
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Location: DUMPING CATS AND PIGS IN TEXAS :) | TrailGirl - 2014-05-09 2:05 PM coco~n~cash - 2014-05-09 1:53 PM LRQHS - 2014-05-09 12:09 PM hmmmmm.....I wonder what the statistics are now? I work in Trauma and don't know of any English rider head injuries, but do know of a few serious Western rider head injuries....including a couple of deaths. Now, I'm curious. Could certainly be my area, but we do fly in a bunch so it's not just this general area that would be sent to us. Christopher Reeves..... 
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Location: Where the stars at night are big and bright, TX | Rather than some of these replies, I'd be an adult and just tell her you understand the risk, you've signed a waiver and would appreciate her respecting your decision. I'd also ask the barn owner to have a conversation with her as well. If she is ruining the boarding experience for others, it could have an effect on the BO's client retention. |
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Hungarian Midget Woman
Location: Midwest | RayMor - 2014-05-10 6:35 PM
GoinJettin - 2014-05-10 6:07 PM
TXBO - 2014-05-09 4:30 PM Tell her every time she mentions a helmet to you, you're going to tell one of her students how stupid they look in a helmet.
This makes me cringe.
That is the reason a lot of people don't wear them is they think they looks stupid or they look like they don't know what they are doing. That is the fartherst thing from the truth .... they are the smartest of all to wear one and protect their head.
I would just say you've spoken with the owners and they have told you they are not required and until they require them you aren't going to wear one.
That answer makes me cringe as well. Yes, it's a personal choice (and NY is under 18 NOT 18 and under ) but that mentality is the reason a lot more people don't wear them. Because they think they'll look stupid or people will laugh at them. I'm the first to admit that I stopped wearing one the second I turned 18. While I completely agree that a cowboy hat is a lot more traditional for our discipline and looks better, making someone feel bad about wearing a helmet is a jerk move. Everyone is right though, if the owners are not worried about it, it's not really her business. It's one thing to voice her concern about it but persistently annoying you over it, isn't okay.
My vet found out I wasn't wearing a helmet when i had a pretty nasty spill and his words have tended to stick with me! "People that don't have the brains to wear a helmet, don't have any brains worth protecting."
A little harsh but a pretty effective wake up call!
I think you guys are missing the point
It made me laugh not because people look stupid in helmets, but if someone is going to be a pushy b---- about their beliefs, they better be okay with pushing people right back in the opposite direction
I highly doubt he would actually go tell people not to wear helmets, good gawd
I don't wear a helmet when I run, I should, but as an adult I can make whatever dumbazz choice I want without having to be preached at 24/7. I did wear one all the time as a youth and when I did the jumpers. I have nothing against people that wear them and I don't think they look stupid at all.
Personally I just hate the type of person that thinks they know what EVERYONE else should do....and then feels the need to tell them so. |
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Hungarian Midget Woman
Location: Midwest | Tilt The Kilt - 2014-05-12 8:08 AM Rather than some of these replies, I'd be an adult and just tell her you understand the risk, you've signed a waiver and would appreciate her respecting your decision. I'd also ask the barn owner to have a conversation with her as well. If she is ruining the boarding experience for others, it could have an effect on the BO's client retention.
BTW, this is what I would actually do |
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Location: Kentucky | Tilt The Kilt - 2014-05-12 9:08 AM Rather than some of these replies, I'd be an adult and just tell her you understand the risk, you've signed a waiver and would appreciate her respecting your decision. I'd also ask the barn owner to have a conversation with her as well. If she is ruining the boarding experience for others, it could have an effect on the BO's client retention.
I agree with this. I really don't understand why people would snap on her. Like another poster said, maybe she had a personal experience and is actually very concerned for your safety. |
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Location: California | If anyone is going to buy a helmet, please get a good one. My husband was almost killed because the Caliente (can't wear them anymore on the track) type he wore didn't cover the back of the head enough. Just got done working a horse and was riding back into the shedrow. Kicked his feet out of the irons and this groom comes rushing out of a stall with those big canvas type muck barrels right behind him. It spooked the horse and it kicked out only to have it's leg caught between where the canvas attaches to the frame. All hell broke loose. Jack bailed and was kicked in the back of the head right under the helmet. Sh*t happens and you never know when or where. I wear a jock's helmet when my horse has a bug up his ass. I can predict it. Just get a good one is all I'm saying.
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