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SuckerForHorses
Reg. Apr 2014
Posted 2014-05-28 12:21 PM
Subject: RE: Mare Flanks Sucked-In


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readytorodeo - 2014-05-28 1:08 PM

Β I agree with ulcers. Β Go to Walmart and get Alovera juice. Β 1 ounce morning and night. Β It's a cheap way to tell. You will see a difference in a matter of days.Β 

Not necessarily. I had my mare on GastroGard for 10 days before even noticing a MINOR difference in her behavior when we suspected ulcers (which she DID have, we scoped her). A little bit of aloe juice wouldn't have done a damn thing to help us tell.

OP - my mare also had very tucked up flanks with her ulcers. She would get dehydrated from not drinking much water (because of the ulcers).
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Mis_Trev
Reg. Jan 2014
Posted 2014-05-28 2:57 PM
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Well, I have waited the full 30 day recommended by the vet and still no additional weight (from what i can tell and flanks still sucked in). Plus I have notices she rubs/scratches her butt on everything - more than just a normal itch... I am going to try the ulcer theory...

Has anyone tried the Oxy-Gen ulcer products (Oxy Ulcer)? Gastroguard or Ulcerguard? What worked best for your horse(s) for the best price?

I really appreciate everyones input!
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SuckerForHorses
Reg. Apr 2014
Posted 2014-05-28 3:12 PM
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Mis_Trev - 2014-05-28 3:57 PM

Well, I have waited the full 30 day recommended by the vet and still no additional weight (from what i can tell and flanks still sucked in). Plus I have notices she rubs/scratches her butt on everything - more than just a normal itch... I am going to try the ulcer theory...

Has anyone tried the Oxy-Gen ulcer products (Oxy Ulcer)? Gastroguard or Ulcerguard? What worked best for your horse(s) for the best price?

I really appreciate everyones input!

UlcerGard/GastroGard is the Gold Star treatment.

They are the SAME THING. One tube of UlcerGard = One tube of GastroGard. They are simply labeled differently for treatment vs. prevention. So, you can save money by buying UlcerGard (without a script) and just give a tube a day.

That being said, you cannot just abruptly stop administering PPI drugs. You must gradually taper off the drug, otherwise, you risk what's called an "acid rebound effect." which essentially are those proton pumps kick into high gear after you stop the drug abruptly and produce a lot of acid, which in turn, creates a problem (potentially) with ulcers again.

So, 28 days of UlcerGard, 1 tube daily. Then 1/2 tube daily for a few weeks, then 1/4 tube daily for a few weeks, then none.

There are other things you can try to see if the horse responds; my mare responds quite quickly to ranitidine, 6 mg/kg every 8 hours (I do every 12 hours). You can try this to see if she responds to it, and if so, start her on the good stuff (UlcerGard). That way can save you some money - Omeprazole takes a bit to start working and showing a results; ranitidine (H2 blockers) start working immediately but aren't as much bang for your buck in terms of healing existing ulcers. They can work, but you need to use them for much longer than omeprazole based treatments.

You could also just scope the horse and see what you're dealing with. That's what I did because I wanted to know for sure. www.photobucket.com/ulcers
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ACEINTHEHOLE
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Posted 2014-05-28 3:19 PM
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SuckerForHorses - 2014-05-28 3:12 PM
Mis_Trev - 2014-05-28 3:57 PM Well, I have waited the full 30 day recommended by the vet and still no additional weight (from what i can tell and flanks still sucked in). Plus I have notices she rubs/scratches her butt on everything - more than just a normal itch... I am going to try the ulcer theory... Has anyone tried the Oxy-Gen ulcer products (Oxy Ulcer)? Gastroguard or Ulcerguard? What worked best for your horse(s) for the best price? I really appreciate everyones input!
UlcerGard/GastroGard is the Gold Star treatment. They are the SAME THING. One tube of UlcerGard = One tube of GastroGard. They are simply labeled differently for treatment vs. prevention. So, you can save money by buying UlcerGard (without a script) and just give a tube a day. That being said, you cannot just abruptly stop administering PPI drugs. You must gradually taper off the drug, otherwise, you risk what's called an "acid rebound effect." which essentially are those proton pumps kick into high gear after you stop the drug abruptly and produce a lot of acid, which in turn, creates a problem (potentially) with ulcers again. So, 28 days of UlcerGard, 1 tube daily. Then 1/2 tube daily for a few weeks, then 1/4 tube daily for a few weeks, then none. There are other things you can try to see if the horse responds; my mare responds quite quickly to ranitidine, 6 mg/kg every 8 hours (I do every 12 hours). You can try this to see if she responds to it, and if so, start her on the good stuff (UlcerGard). That way can save you some money - Omeprazole takes a bit to start working and showing a results; ranitidine (H2 blockers) start working immediately but aren't as much bang for your buck in terms of healing existing ulcers. They can work, but you need to use them for much longer than omeprazole based treatments. You could also just scope the horse and see what you're dealing with. That's what I did because I wanted to know for sure. www.photobucket.com/ulcers

I looked at your photos.. did you worm her too?  LOL, sorry I just had to ask. 
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SuckerForHorses
Reg. Apr 2014
Posted 2014-05-29 6:42 AM
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LOL yes! And she had been wormed not long before that, I can't remember the timeframe now as that was a few years ago. But I will never look at kidney beans the same way ever again! LOL!
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