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Location: Ky | Again, I say it's a ploy to get the NY racing commission to allow the strips. It would be a PR nighmare for them if he didn't run. Brilliant strategy in my opinion.
I would bet my house that CC runs the Belmont. Just posturing at the moment. |
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Location: Four Corners Colorado | You know this right here is why I'd like to see a national racing commision so the rules would be the same across the nation. |
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Location: between here and there | The trainer was on tv this am speaking about the flare strips on CC. He said he's been asked to do a lot of things he had never done like run a horse 2 weeks after a big race and it was successful. He has always ran 6 weeks between before. He said he trains in the mornings without them, but CC seems to prefer them in the afternoon so that's what they have been doing right along. All 6 races have been with them and like someone else said, with this being a longer race than he's ever run I sure wouldn't want to chance it otherwise.
I know I've used them when I'm stuffed up with allergies and they do help a lot. I don't like them, but they do work to open up the airway! Im not sure why not as they don't have any meds or performance enhancers in them. Yes, the standardbreds use them in NY, too but it's a different commission. Crazy for the TB's not able to use them. |
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The Resident Destroyer of Liberal Logic
Location: PNW | Just slap some strips on the whole field... Performance enhancing or not, BOOM all of the sudden it is even again.  |
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Location: on my horse | svincent - 2014-05-18 10:48 PM
Just slap some strips on the whole field... Performance enhancing or not, BOOM all of the sudden it is even again.
That's exactly what I was thinking |
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Location: SE Louisiana | fatchance - 2014-05-18 5:47 PM
Turner1 - 2014-05-18 3:46 PM The strips are allowed in Standardbred racing in New York, why not TB?
Very valid point......all I can say is...it's New York.
Oh Please!!! Live Cover vrs AI and everything else??? |
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Location: Do I hear Banjos? | I don't get the rationale for not allowing them. If they "enhance performance" but are not a drug. Heck let's not allow leg wraps, blinkers, shadow rolls etc either...I believe those may enhance performance too.  |
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | I think those things have been around for humans for about 20 years, and they do work for some people who snore, etc... I remember one year at our NBHA state finals they were giving them away and I think most of them just fell off, because they wouldn't stick very well on the hair, and they were laying all over the place. I assume they use benzoin or some adhesive to keep them on. Someone mentioned a "blister". Did he develop a blister where the nasal strip was applied? If so, it will be healed up by then. |
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| HotbearLVR - 2014-05-19 7:56 AM I think those things have been around for humans for about 20 years, and they do work for some people who snore, etc... I remember one year at our NBHA state finals they were giving them away and I think most of them just fell off, because they wouldn't stick very well on the hair, and they were laying all over the place. I assume they use benzoin or some adhesive to keep them on. Someone mentioned a "blister". Did he develop a blister where the nasal strip was applied? If so, it will be healed up by then.
The blister was in his airway, which caused a cough. Didn't have anything to do with the nasal strip |
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Location: The edge of no where | ksjackofalltrades - 2014-05-18 5:40 PM He has won 6 in a row since they started using the nasal strips. With the Belmont being such a long race, stamina issues would definetly be a factor and then throw in the fact that he has issues with a lingering blister, I would say that the nasal strip issue would be a big deal.
FLAIR strips are the only thing other than Lasix that have been clinically proven to help with bleeders. It's a non-drug aide, I would think it would be a very big deal. I think not allowing them is stupid, and hope they get approved to run him with one. |
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Location: Kansas | He'll run better without that annoying conglomeration of tape on his face.
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Location: NE Texas | wimpyb - 2014-05-18 9:42 PM The trainer was on tv this am speaking about the flare strips on CC. He said he's been asked to do a lot of things he had never done like run a horse 2 weeks after a big race and it was successful. He has always ran 6 weeks between before. He said he trains in the mornings without them, but CC seems to prefer them in the afternoon so that's what they have been doing right along. All 6 races have been with them and like someone else said, with this being a longer race than he's ever run I sure wouldn't want to chance it otherwise. I know I've used them when I'm stuffed up with allergies and they do help a lot. I don't like them, but they do work to open up the airway! Im not sure why not as they don't have any meds or performance enhancers in them. Yes, the standardbreds use them in NY, too but it's a different commission. Crazy for the TB's not able to use them. I'd love to know the other things Art Sherman was asked to do in the training of Chrome by the trainers. Perry Martin is a scientist....someone who studies and ponders and thinks outside the box. He is the one who wanted to start using the strips on Chrome and asked the trainer to do it. He's also the one who wanted the horse to run back in two weeks. I'd love to know what the "outline" Mr. Martin and Mr. Coburn handed Art Sherman regarding how they wanted their Derby horse trained.....i'll bet it's an interesting read for sure and will prove that science can play a big part in the training process if used correctly.
All I can say is GO CHROME!!!! I'll Have Another was denied his request to run with them in the Belmont and I doubt the NY racing commission will grant Chrome anything different.
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Location: Kentucky | I'd love to know why they are denied at the Belmont. I would think the strips are more of a preventative maintenance, than performance enhancing. |
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Location: SW MO | My question is though do you really want the next triple crown winner to need an aid to run.
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Location: Arkansas | crossspur - 2014-05-19 9:00 AM My question is though do you really want the next triple crown winner to need an aid to run.
( JMO I don't think he can win anyway )
I don't think he will either. Too many stalking him that have had plenty of rest.
Just my personal opinion, I wouldn't run him. California Chrome doesn't have a thing to prove. |
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| The stripes are more of a preventive maintenance than performance enhancing. It's not a drug just opens the airway up. If they are making a big deal about it allow the others to wear them problem solved. I love the stripes and I am a firm believer of them!
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| Love The Chase, Chrome dam, was found to have a breathing problem after she was retired. I can imagine that the strip are helping at least a little. Considering the nature of racing, I'd bet the strip are the least "annoying" thing he has to worry about. They certainly aren't hurting his performance! |
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Location: Kentucky | NASAL STRIP APPROVED AND HE WILL RUN! |
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