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Location: Bastrop, Texas | At least there is vigorous debate and even some healthy dissention within the GOP. That isn't necessarily a bad thing....so long as people at least suck it up in the end and get out and vote in the general election. If they stick to "principle" and refuse to vote unless it's for their candidate who was defeated in the primaries, then we will all be screwed.
The Dems seldom have significant debates or dissent within their ranks. That's because they all know their place as good obedient little lemmings. Hitler accomplished this masterfully. |
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Location: Online | I'm sick of it all. Politicians on both sides aren't in it to help anyone but themselves. They are in it for money and power. Maybe with the exception of a few, but not many, those few will cross over to the dark side soon enough. For the majority it's a get rich quick scheme by scratching each other's backs and kissing ass. Nancy Pelosi gets elected year after year because her constituents love her. She is able to pull strings and funnel money to her district to give them what they want. It doesn't matter from where or how she gets it, those people are benefitting, therefore they keep voting her in. To hell with the rest of the country.
As for Karl Rove, while I agree with a lot of what he says, I also disagree with him a lot. My question is, who is he in the greater scheme of things? Really? Why are the Liberals having such heartburn over what he says? He's just a talking head, he has very little influence over people. Whether I agree with him or not, I don't take what he says as gospel, I am able to make up my own mind. Unlike those who are mesmerized and hypnotized by everything that comes out of Obama's lying mouth. Whatever Rove or any other talking head says doesn't mean anything. The media is just creating drama.
At least some of us who are right wing loons aren't afraid of criticizing our own. Lefty's are unable to do that.  |
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | rodeomom13 - 2014-05-20 9:37 AM
I'm sick of it all. Politicians on both sides aren't in it to help anyone but themselves. They are in it for money and  power. Maybe with the exception of a few, but not many, those few will cross over to the dark side soon enough. For the majority it's a get rich quick scheme by scratching each other's backs and kissing ass. Nancy Pelosi gets elected year after year because her constituents love her. She is able to pull strings and funnel money to her district to give them what they want. It doesn't matter from where or how she gets it, those people are benefitting, therefore they keep voting her in. To hell with the rest of the country.
As for Karl Rove, while I agree with a lot of what he says, I also disagree with him a lot. My question is, who is he in the greater scheme of things? Really? Why are the Liberals having such heartburn over what he says? He's just a talking head, he has very little influence over people. Whether I agree with him or not, I don't take what he says as gospel, I am able to make up my own mind. Unlike those who are mesmerized and hypnotized by everything that comes out of Obama's lying mouth. Â Whatever Rove or any other talking head says doesn't mean anything. The media is just creating drama.
At least some of us who are right wing loons aren't afraid of criticizing our own. Lefty's are unable to do that.Â
Absolutely, Rodeomom! They almost never criticise their own or dissent. Think of some of our more liberal BBs for example. When was the last time you ever saw one of them criticise a liberal politician? I can't think of a single example.....can anyone else? I doubt it. This very thread is aimed at criticizing the GOP and Rove. You very seldom see this kind of objective analysis and intellectual honesty on the left. They are just marching in lock-step behind their leaders, parroting the same talking points, sometimes down to the letter. I know who taught them this from history.....and so does everyone else. |
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Location: Texas | The 2016 GOP candidate is going to be an interesting thing to see. Historically, the GOP never wants to step away from the evangelical vote. It's hurt them in the past two elections so we'll see if a different strategy will be practiced (what's the definition of insanity, again?). I know I'm not included in the "young" vote anymore but at 31 and in a red state, I can tell you that my age and below typically don't want the bs EITHER party brings to the table -- they don't want their money stolen out of every paycheck OR being told how to live their life if it's not infriging on another's rights.
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Location: Kansas | Riden, you might look up what Sarah Palin had to say about this. Sarah was treated badly by the liberal press and that's putting it mildly. Her take "why not Hillary?" Hillary had a traumatic head injury and that was all Karl Rove was trying to point out. Even Bill Clinton said it took her six months to recover. Might be good to know when you're talking about a potential POTUS.
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| Frodo - 2014-05-20 11:06 AM Riden, you might look up what Sarah Palin had to say about this. Sarah was treated badly by the liberal press and that's putting it mildly. Her take "why not Hillary?" Hillary had a traumatic head injury and that was all Karl Rove was trying to point out. Even Bill Clinton said it took her six months to recover. Might be good to know when you're talking about a potential POTUS.
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Location: Kansas | Griz - 2014-05-20 11:13 AM Frodo - 2014-05-20 11:06 AM Riden, you might look up what Sarah Palin had to say about this. Sarah was treated badly by the liberal press and that's putting it mildly. Her take "why not Hillary?" Hillary had a traumatic head injury and that was all Karl Rove was trying to point out. Even Bill Clinton said it took her six months to recover. Might be good to know when you're talking about a potential POTUS.
I thought a brain injury was a prerequisite to run for office of the POTUS!
...or the lack of a brain altogether.
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Location: Denver, but a Nebraska native -- GO BIG RED!!! | The Democrats aren't worried about Karl Rove. He's a political hack whose time has passed. Go Hillary!  |
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| I hope I feel differently soon and you all can throw it in my face but as of now...I've given up. I don't think the G.O.P will ever embrace grassroots and I don't think a third party can win without a miracle. I don't think the people who want things for free are going to suddenly grow a back bone and ethics. Its too easy to collect food stamps while talking on your IPhone because, hey...it's your God-given American right. Except, they don't want to hear about God. We're supposed to call Illeagal aliens, Undocumented Citizens but real citizens are crucified for everything under the sun...
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Location: In the Hills of Texas | bigredrascal - 2014-05-20 1:36 PM The Democrats aren't worried about Karl Rove. He's a political hack whose time has passed. Go Hillary!
What has Hillary done that you would vote for her? I can only think of things she has done why NOT to vote for her. |
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| Nevertooold - 2014-05-20 4:19 PM
bigredrascal - 2014-05-20 1:36 PM The Democrats aren't worried about Karl Rove. He's a political hack whose time has passed. Go Hillary!
What do you mean!!! Why she helped the oil industry by flying all over the world burning jet fuel accomplishing ZIP!!!! And besides she ran for President in 2008 and got beat by a no name Senator. But she is a woman so we should all vote for her it's her turn isn't it come on people!!!!  |
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Location: Displaced Iowegian | RidenFly - 2014-05-20 3:51 PM I hope I feel differently soon and you all can throw it in my face but as of now...I've given up. I don't think the G.O.P will ever embrace grassroots and I don't think a third party can win without a miracle. I don't think the people who want things for free are going to suddenly grow a back bone and ethics. Its too easy to collect food stamps while talking on your IPhone because, hey...it's your God-given American right. Except, they don't want to hear about God. We're supposed to call Illeagal aliens, Undocumented Citizens but real citizens are crucified for everything under the sun...
Doomed. That's how I feel. I hope it changes soon.
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | NJJ - 2014-05-20 5:09 PM RidenFly - 2014-05-20 3:51 PM I hope I feel differently soon and you all can throw it in my face but as of now...I've given up. I don't think the G.O.P will ever embrace grassroots and I don't think a third party can win without a miracle. I don't think the people who want things for free are going to suddenly grow a back bone and ethics. Its too easy to collect food stamps while talking on your IPhone because, hey...it's your God-given American right. Except, they don't want to hear about God.  We're supposed to call Illeagal aliens, Undocumented Citizens but real citizens are crucified for everything under the sun...
  Doomed. That's how I feel. I hope it changes soon. Mark this day on your calendar.....I agree with you.......Â
Basically, I think you are both right. I don't really see the different factions within the GOP uniting and rallying around any particular candidate. If one group is fired up, another is turned off. I'm amazed at how my opinion of Romney has grown steadily since the summer of 2012. I just think we missed the chance to elect the right man at a time when he was just so desperately needed. His resume' is unmatched, in my opinion. That's just me. The Dems did a much better job of getting out the vote. I hate to say this Riden, and you know that I like Palin, but I was disappointed that she didn't bend over backwards to endorse Romney or work to rally the base to get him elected. She let me down, because she could have made a big difference. |
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Location: North Texas | jbhoot - 2014-05-20 4:37 PM Nevertooold - 2014-05-20 4:19 PM bigredrascal - 2014-05-20 1:36 PM The Democrats aren't worried about Karl Rove. He's a political hack whose time has passed. Go Hillary! What do you mean!!! Why she helped the oil industry by flying all over the world burning jet fuel accomplishing ZIP!!!! And besides she ran for President in 2008 and got beat by a no name Senator. But she is a woman so we should all vote for her it's her turn isn't it come on people!!!!
Hillary Clinton literally has no accomplishments to speak of. Other than being Arkansas' Governors Wife, 1st Lady, New York State Senator, and then Sec. of State. These are the Titles Hillary Clinton has held, but with absolutely no results attributed to any of the Titles. The proof is the pudding of just how sucessful (or actually not been) Mrs. Hillary Clinton has been in Her Illustrous Political Life. |
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | foundation horse - 2014-05-20 6:53 PM
jbhoot - 2014-05-20 4:37 PM Nevertooold - 2014-05-20 4:19 PM bigredrascal - 2014-05-20 1:36 PM The Democrats aren't worried about Karl Rove. He's a political hack whose time has passed. Go Hillary! What do you mean!!! Why she helped the oil industry by flying all over the world burning jet fuel accomplishing ZIP!!!! And besides she ran for President in 2008 and got beat by a no name Senator. But she is a woman so we should all vote for her it's her turn isn't it come on people!!!!
Hillary Clinton literally has no accomplishments to speak of. Other than being Arkansas' Governors Wife, 1st Lady, New York State Senator, and then Sec. of State. These are the Titles Hillary Clinton has held, but with absolutely no results attributed to any of the Titles. The proof is the pudding of just how sucessful (or actually not been )  Mrs. Hillary Clinton has been in Her Illustrous Political Life.
Foundation Horse, as you know, a resume' and a record of significant accomplishment no longer matters.....it hasn't mattered since 2008. Hillary's lack of noteworthy accomplishments is a moot point in this day and age. Look at what Romney has accomplished and what Obozo accomplished....obviously substance doesn't matter anymore. Why should it be any different with Hillary? |
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| If you think carl rove said somethimg out of the way. Start listening to some of those left wing peolple talking abput race based stuff. I own a business i dont see color,imsee people. The only people,that see color,are politicans they have a reason to. I employ a really nice black guy andwe can,talk aboutmthis. Ypu take people like pat robertson, jessie jackson and those,people who,employ,religon in this both black and whit are making a lot,of,money on this and causeing people to,dislike each other. I think if we could those poeple who,dont pay taxes that constantly are on the tv shows both black and white they are always making money off,us. Theynare tellling us we dont get along yada yada. Charlie wrangle is a prine example some of his peolple came to a oocal county church and spread his propaganda as you know,he did not,pay his taxes and was an informantant formant for whom ever and we probavly dont know the,whole,story. But he told hismside to a local church. Next time that,hapendeds i will,have a entourouge show,up at themchurch. We as people need to,know,what they say. There are people who,listen to there church and velieve whatmtheymsay. But if i send a grpunp of my employees itmmight stop them in this county.
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1. Republicans are pooping their pants thinking about a Hillary run for President.
2. Since she hasn't declared a candidacy yet, speculating about her health is a moot point, demanding she release her medical records now is bizarre, and Sarah Palin's comment about being treated differently is weird since she was already a candidate for the vice presidency.
3. Republicans will never win another national election if the don't cool it on the social issues. The world is changing and if the GOP doesn't want to become an afterthought, they need to get with the program. Social media instantly spreads every stupid comment that politicians say, so every gay slur, racist dog whistle, voter restriction idea, and poor people are taker memes that come out of the fringes are emailed, hash tagged, messaged, Facebooked etc to young and old alike. Like it or not, social media activism is here to stay.
4. I personally find it disturbing that female politicians are held to a different standard, their hair, their clothes, their "mood swings", are all discussed in the press whereas male politicians are given a pass. Is it any wonder that women, who are proven to be better negotiators, choose to pass on political careers rather than go through the gauntlet of a run for office? Sad.
5. You are watching/reading the wrong news if you don't see Dems disagreeing, many times to the detriment of their policies. I have been criticized for not speaking against Democrats, but I am hear to tell you that the Senators who extol the virtues of the Keystone Pipeline to save their own political hides, do not garner any respect from me. Keystone is a for profit foreign oil company that is taking Americans' land against their will with little benefit to us and all the risk, but that is a story for another day.
As for Hillary, You go girl!
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| bigredrascal - 2014-05-20 1:36 PM
The Democrats aren't worried about Karl Rove. He's a political hack whose time has passed. Go Hillary!
DITTO!!
Hillary and Elizabeth Warren -VP- I would give that team some serious consideration. |
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Location: North Texas | IB1UKNO - 2014-05-20 9:20 PM bigredrascal - 2014-05-20 1:36 PM The Democrats aren't worried about Karl Rove. He's a political hack whose time has passed. Go Hillary! DITTO!! Hillary and Elizabeth Warren -VP- I would give that team some serious consideration.
I would hope you do. Because provided You vote for this Duo, then You have outted Yourself as the epitomy of a "Low Information Voter"! |
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Location: North Texas | HotbearLVR - 2014-05-20 8:05 PM foundation horse - 2014-05-20 6:53 PM jbhoot - 2014-05-20 4:37 PM Nevertooold - 2014-05-20 4:19 PM bigredrascal - 2014-05-20 1:36 PM The Democrats aren't worried about Karl Rove. He's a political hack whose time has passed. Go Hillary! What do you mean!!! Why she helped the oil industry by flying all over the world burning jet fuel accomplishing ZIP!!!! And besides she ran for President in 2008 and got beat by a no name Senator. But she is a woman so we should all vote for her it's her turn isn't it come on people!!!! Hillary Clinton literally has no accomplishments to speak of. Other than being Arkansas' Governors Wife, 1st Lady, New York State Senator, and then Sec. of State. These are the Titles Hillary Clinton has held, but with absolutely no results attributed to any of the Titles. The proof is the pudding of just how sucessful (or actually not been ) Mrs. Hillary Clinton has been in Her Illustrous Political Life. Foundation Horse, as you know, a resume' and a record of significant accomplishment no longer matters.....it hasn't mattered since 2008. Hillary's lack of noteworthy accomplishments is a moot point in this day and age. Look at what Romney has accomplished and what Obozo accomplished....obviously substance doesn't matter anymore. Why should it be any different with Hillary?
Agreed! After the election and subsequent re-election of a President with an unfathomable past, why would America even look into the background of Her Leader? |
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