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cheeka77 - 2016-12-03 12:42 AM
Alright so bumping this old thread up but...I was going to send in the $25 to get hair analysied by Heather because I have heard such RAVE reviews but turns out, she doesn't do anything scientific...the lord speaks to her about the horses. Now don't get me wrong everyone is entitled to their beliefs and whatnot but I can't help but think that is false advertising?? Why doesn't she just come right out and say she's an animal communicator?  There are screenshots on FB I can grab from another gal who didn't know anything scientific was actually being done and quite a few other people are upset now too. I mean I'm not out any money but....thoughts?
I just saw that...
While I have zero problem with how she does what she does, I would have appreciated knowing that when she gave me my horse's results.
I never ordered any herbs bc I believe in science and just could NOT figure out how dead hair would give those type of results.
Again, I have no problem with how she gets her results, but why not advertise that??
I don't give a rip how she comes up with the results. All I know is she hit the nail on the head with my gelding. If she came right out and said she was an animal communicator every one on here would rip her apart. |
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| CYA Ranch - 2016-12-06 8:23 PM dashnlotti - 2016-12-05 10:03 AM cheeka77 - 2016-12-03 12:42 AM Alright so bumping this old thread up but...I was going to send in the $25 to get hair analysied by Heather because I have heard such RAVE reviews but turns out, she doesn't do anything scientific...the lord speaks to her about the horses. Now don't get me wrong everyone is entitled to their beliefs and whatnot but I can't help but think that is false advertising?? Why doesn't she just come right out and say she's an animal communicator?
There are screenshots on FB I can grab from another gal who didn't know anything scientific was actually being done and quite a few other people are upset now too. I mean I'm not out any money but....thoughts? I just saw that... While I have zero problem with how she does what she does, I would have appreciated knowing that when she gave me my horse's results. I never ordered any herbs bc I believe in science and just could NOT figure out how dead hair would give those type of results. Again, I have no problem with how she gets her results, but why not advertise that?? I don't give a rip how she comes up with the results. All I know is she hit the nail on the head with my gelding. If she came right out and said she was an animal communicator every one on here would rip her apart.
While I would agree people would be more apt to tear her apart, I think it's very shady how she is currently advertising and not disclosing how she gets her results as opposed to others and I think she'll get more flak. I will say I have heard great things about her which is what lead me to finding out what she does but giving my horse herbs for things not scientific...hmmmm.
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| Go to Natural Care Herbs. They do a hair analysis and it explains the process on the website. I have done it and before I bought the herbs, had a vet go over the horse. She was right on with what was wrong.
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| I used Heather for my 3 yr old filly & Nugget is doing great now. I talked to Heather about my filly & she was very nice. Whatever, she helped my filly & that's what counts. I don't think she is hiding anything. Heck Mary Burger uses her. I think that says something right there. |
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Location: Oklahoma | Just because a pro says they are sponsored or says they use the product doesn't mean they actually do. Im not saying Mary Burger doesn't use her products just I know for a fact just because they take pics and promote the product that they sometimes don't use or believe in them You have to be your own adovacate for your horse! I learned the hard way. I used to try supplements and herbs without paying much attention to the ingredients and my horses paid for it! I know for a fact that it was the product because both horses was on the same thing at the same time and both horses feet went really bad and both were standing laminitic as soon as I pulled product off both horses at the same time stood normal after 24 hours of not feeding the product. I have fed glucasmine with no problem thru the years I think it was the combination of the ingredients that was in this product that did it and yes the product was from heather. She really did help my horses and I would not have a problem ordering more products from her but I will and am paying so much attention to ingredients You have good and bad with anything. I will say that at the beginning of using her products I had no problems and horses was doing great for 3 months until I added the product with the glucosamine At this time I am not using any of her products because I have found a different route using less ingredients. |
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| Turnburnsis - 2016-12-07 11:07 PM
Just because a pro says they are sponsored or says they use the product doesn't mean they actually do. Im not saying Mary Burger doesn't use her products just I know for a fact just because they take pics and promote the product that they sometimes don't use or believe in them You have to be your own adovacate for your horse! I learned the hard way. I used to try supplements and herbs without paying much attention to the ingredients and my horses paid for it! I know for a fact that it was the product because both horses was on the same thing at the same time and both horses feet went really bad and both were standing laminitic as soon as I pulled product off both horses at the same time stood normal after 24 hours of not feeding the product. I have fed glucasmine with no problem thru the years I think it was the combination of the ingredients that was in this product that did it and yes the product was from heather. She really did help my horses and I would not have a problem ordering more products from her but I will and am paying so much attention to ingredients You have good and bad with anything. I will say that at the beginning of using her products I had no problems and horses was doing great for 3 months until I added the product with the glucosamine At this time I am not using any of her products because I have found a different route using less ingredients.
Actually I never saw pictures of Mary promoting Heather. I was told from a reliable person that Mary used Heather for horse hair analisist " I know I spelled that word wrong " & used her herbs for her horses. All I'm saying is Heather helped my horse. Nugget is off the herbs & doing great. Haven't had her on anything since. |
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| I used Heather, I didn't find out till after that nothing was specifically tested in the hair. My results "your horse is bored and could use a kidney flush...heres my product line".
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I used Heather, I didn't find out till after that nothing was specifically tested in the hair. My results "your horse is bored and could use a kidney flush...heres my product line".
Was pretty disappointed overall.
Is she an animal communicator too? Can you get a package deal?
HHA combined with a session with your horse? That would be an attractive combo, I'd think. |
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| I personally spoke with Heather and asked straight up if she speaks with God or animal communication to get her results and she says that is a false lie made up about her. She did go into explaining how the results are found but I don't want to attempt to repeat because I know I won't say it all right. But point of my story is she said she wishes people would directly message or speak with her before starting these rumors and that's a good enough answer for me. |
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Location: Oklahoma | I have also talked to h r personally and even when I had problems. There is no test. Part of it is muscle testing |
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| RoadToVegas - 2016-12-11 10:06 PM I personally spoke with Heather and asked straight up if she speaks with God or animal communication to get her results and she says that is a false lie made up about her. She did go into explaining how the results are found but I don't want to attempt to repeat because I know I won't say it all right. But point of my story is she said she wishes people would directly message or speak with her before starting these rumors and that's a good enough answer for me.
Can you at least attempt to explain? The link I posted shows her replys and there is no scientific testing... unless you can share anything else? |
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| cheeka77 - 2016-12-12 12:40 AM
RoadToVegas - 2016-12-11 10:06 PM I personally spoke with Heather and asked straight up if she speaks with God or animal communication to get her results and she says that is a false lie made up about her. She did go into explaining how the results are found but I don't want to attempt to repeat because I know I won't say it all right. But point of my story is she said she wishes people would directly message or speak with her before starting these rumors and that's a good enough answer for me.
Can you at least attempt to explain? The link I posted shows her replys and there is no scientific testing... unless you can share anything else?
She explained it to me as there are certain markers in the hair that show inflammation and such. |
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | RoadToVegas - 2016-12-12 8:07 AM
cheeka77 - 2016-12-12 12:40 AM
RoadToVegas - 2016-12-11 10:06 PM I personally spoke with Heather and asked straight up if she speaks with God or animal communication to get her results and she says that is a false lie made up about her. She did go into explaining how the results are found but I don't want to attempt to repeat because I know I won't say it all right. But point of my story is she said she wishes people would directly message or speak with her before starting these rumors and that's a good enough answer for me.
Can you at least attempt to explain? The link I posted shows her replys and there is no scientific testing... unless you can share anything else?
She explained it to me as there are certain markers in the hair that show inflammation and such.
Why the secrecy? What "markers" is she talking about? Can anyone at least try to explain? |
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| Bear - 2016-12-12 8:37 AM
RoadToVegas - 2016-12-12 8:07 AM
cheeka77 - 2016-12-12 12:40 AM
RoadToVegas - 2016-12-11 10:06 PM I personally spoke with Heather and asked straight up if she speaks with God or animal communication to get her results and she says that is a false lie made up about her. She did go into explaining how the results are found but I don't want to attempt to repeat because I know I won't say it all right. But point of my story is she said she wishes people would directly message or speak with her before starting these rumors and that's a good enough answer for me.
Can you at least attempt to explain? The link I posted shows her replys and there is no scientific testing... unless you can share anything else?
She explained it to me as there are certain markers in the hair that show inflammation and such.
Why the secrecy? What "markers" is she talking about? Can anyone at least try to explain?
Like I said there was no secrecy to it but I am not going to attempt to explain in words that I would use because it's going to sound uneducated. Message her on her fb business site and ask detailed questions. That's what I would want before a bunch of people bashed my business. |
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | The only supporting evidence for hair analysis is "testimonials".......lots of testimonials that basically state, "I know it works because it worked for me."
Here are some facts:
-Levels of minerals in the hair do NOT correlate with levels in the body.
-Laboratory techniques are inconsistent — the same hair analyzed in different labs shows different readings. This has been corroborated many times.
-There are no known "normal" ranges for minerals in hair, so the numbers given by the lab are nonsensical.
-Hair analysis is affected by color, texture, age, exposure to the environment, and a host of other factors, rendering results invalid.
-Most importantly, hair analysis has never been proven to help diagnose or treat any disease.
-Hair analysis does have a limited role in forensic toxicology.
These statements are not in reference to DNA analysis from DNA in hair roots. That is useful in detecting certain genetic diseases. That's something different. |
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| Bear - 2016-12-12 10:03 AM
The only supporting evidence for hair analysis is "testimonials".......lots of testimonials that basically state, "I know it works because it worked for me."
Here are some facts:
-Levels of minerals in the hair do NOT correlate with levels in the body.
-Laboratory techniques are inconsistent — the same hair analyzed in different labs shows different readings. This has been corroborated many times.
-There are no known "normal" ranges for minerals in hair, so the numbers given by the lab are nonsensical.
-Hair analysis is affected by color, texture, age, exposure to the environment, and a host of other factors, rendering results invalid.
-Most importantly, hair analysis has never been proven to help diagnose or treat any disease.
-Hair analysis does have a limited role in forensic toxicology.
These statements are not in reference to DNA analysis from DNA in hair roots. That is useful in detecting certain genetic diseases. That's something different.
Then don't use it I guess. Problem solved. |
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