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| della - 2014-07-01 4:40 PM Whiteboy - 2014-07-01 2:57 PM On that note a good roper can make $10,000 on a poor horse in a single weekend. Comparing roping money to barrel money is a joke. Is sue like to know where I can win 10K in a weekend on a poor rope horse id be all over that like a dirty shirt!
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Location: Scurry, TX | I am sure Trevor and Tuff would love that! too funny |
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| I own a daughter of Dinero that Potters bred. She is extremely smart, however she does tend to be hot and you teach her something and let it be, can't harass her about it or be super repetitious. That being said, she is young (5yr old) I ride her about 4 times a week and don't notice a difference if I miss a few days she works the same. I am a fan though, on her 5th time being entered she clocked top of the 2D (loping to first) and the winner of the 1D was a go round winner of the diamonds and dirt futurity and there were over 100 entries in the open.
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Location: The edge of no where | Whiteboy - 2014-07-01 4:49 PM della - 2014-07-01 4:40 PM Whiteboy - 2014-07-01 2:57 PM On that note a good roper can make $10,000 on a poor horse in a single weekend. Comparing roping money to barrel money is a joke. Is sue like to know where I can win 10K in a weekend on a poor rope horse id be all over that like a dirty shirt!
Have you ever watched an #9 or lower roping?
http://wstroping.com/form-83-shelley-productions.html
Here's a link to just one example of a World Series ropings.....
Here's a link to the finale in Vegas of the #13.... These are NOT pros. It's handicapped at a 13.
http://wstroping.com/form-11-13-cactus-saddlery-finale-8.html
and yes, I've watched LOTS of these....get into the 9 and under and you've only got to catch! (and don't fall off)
It's like a 6D in a barrel race.
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| MS2011 - 2014-07-01 5:00 PM Whiteboy - 2014-07-01 4:49 PM della - 2014-07-01 4:40 PM Whiteboy - 2014-07-01 2:57 PM On that note a good roper can make $10,000 on a poor horse in a single weekend. Comparing roping money to barrel money is a joke. Is sue like to know where I can win 10K in a weekend on a poor rope horse id be all over that like a dirty shirt!
Here's a link to just one example of a World Series ropings.....
Here's a link to the finale in Vegas of the #13.... These are NOT pros. It's handicapped at a 13.
http://wstroping.com/form-11-13-cactus-saddlery-finale-8.html
and yes, I've watched LOTS of these....get into the 9 and under and you've only got to catch! (and don't fall off )
It's like a 6D in a barrel race.
To average just over 9 second per head and still win $200,000.
http://www.ustrc.com/Results/Details2.asp?EventUID=10892&RopingUID=55216 |
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| MS2011 - 2014-07-01 4:00 PM
Whiteboy - 2014-07-01 4:49 PM della - 2014-07-01 4:40 PM Whiteboy - 2014-07-01 2:57 PM On that note a good roper can make $10,000 on a poor horse in a single weekend.  Comparing roping money to barrel money is a joke.  Is sue like to know where I can win 10K in a weekend on a poor rope horse id be all over that like a dirty shirt! http://wstroping.com/form-83-shelley-productions.html Here's a link to just one example of a World Series ropings..... Here's a link to the finale in Vegas of the #13.... These are NOT pros. It's handicapped at a 13.http://wstroping.com/form-11-13-cactus-saddlery-finale-8.html and yes, I've watched LOTS of these....get into the 9 and under and you've only got to catch! (and don't fall off ) It's like a 6D in a barrel race. Â
Ive been to lots of ropings where the roper couldent c eatch. Dosent mean the horse sucks.
And nope im a awful roper my horses get me where I need to be and somehow the rope just falls on. All he credit to my pony carrying me :-)
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| A good roper will make a bad horse look good. A good horse will make a bad roper look decent. A good horse will make a good roper look like Clay Tryan. |
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| Dinero has never hit big in the futurity industry. Not everyone rodeos and those that drive the industry really look to those futurity colts that are winning when it comes time to bred, buy, and sale. A big factor is that they are late to mature. |
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| Whiteboy - 2014-07-01 4:35 PM
A good roper will make a bad horse look good. A good horse will make a bad roper look decent. A good horse will make a good roper look like Clay Tryan.Â
O yes I agree completely with you.
I just consider a pour horse the ones that dont get you even close, its pretty tight if you have to reach 20ft with 25ft rope. Or the ones that are goin left before your ropes even left your hand. Or the ones that buck you off come come out the box. LoL
We have been lucky lots before, my husband's a great roper and hes won rodeos with +5th and been the only teem to rope so they got all the money.
A GREAT roper thats a HORSEMAN can make an average horse look like a top horse. |
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Location: In the Hills of Texas | Doesn't make a difference how much a stud's get makes if they tend to be not very user friendly. There is a reason that your FWF sons make great stallions...They are very user friendly. JMO |
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| Nevertooold - 2014-07-01 6:13 PM
Doesn't make a difference how much a stud's get makes if they tend to be not very user friendly. There is a reason that your FWF sons make great stallions...They are very user friendly. JMO
I agree with this. I think the horses worth the real cash are horses that are user friendly and thats no different for stallion prospects. I dont have any personal experience with Dinero or FG horses but one is quirky, i could see that being a big reason. |
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Location: Desert Land | I have only owned/ridden one horse by Dinero. He was very sweet, but quirky. Now I don't know if that's because of how the people treated him that I got him from or if that's just how he was. The breeder said he was not like that when she had him, so I feel like some of his issues were man made. BUT he definaitely was young and immature - still is as he is only a 4 yr old. I'd be curious to see how he finishes out. |
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Location: Kansas | Whiteboy - 2014-07-01 5:35 PM A good roper will make a bad horse look good. A good horse will make a bad roper look decent. A good horse will make a good roper look like Clay Tryan.
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Location: Scurry, TX | Futurity winners are awesome but you need a horse that can go for the long haul. Rodeo or open horses have to be able to last. Too many futurity horses end up blown up and are burnt out before they are 10 years old. |
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Location: In the Hills of Texas | Alamo1 - 2014-07-02 4:59 PM Futurity winners are awesome but you need a horse that can go for the long haul. Rodeo or open horses have to be able to last. Too many futurity horses end up blown up and are burnt out before they are 10 years old. That's true but there is so much money to be won in futurities and people want their return quick...Not 10 years down the road. It's just the way it is.
Like I said...Many of his get are not user friendly and why put up with it when you can breed to a horse that produces winners and are easy to get along with for a cheaper stud fee?. It is what it is. It took the Potter's quite a while before they found a winning combo for Sherry and now they know what crosses well with him but in reality...those mares would probably cross well with a jackass.
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Location: where ever my L/Q trl is parked | Has anyone taken a FG mare and bred to Dinero? Are there any get out there performing with this particular cross? Since they both have some great attributes seems like someone would have tried this cross. |
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Location: Prosser, WA | Alamo1 - 2014-07-02 2:59 PM
 Futurity winners are awesome but you need a horse that can go for the long haul. Rodeo or open horses have to be able to last. Too many futurity horses end up blown up and are burnt out before they are 10 years old.Â
 But really Frenchmans Guy offspring excel at both. Both nice studs but there really is no comparison. |
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| Alamo1 - 2014-07-03 2:59 PM
 Futurity winners are awesome but you need a horse that can go for the long haul. Rodeo or open horses have to be able to last. Too many futurity horses end up blown up and are burnt out before they are 10 years old.Â
That thought is out of date and untrue of most horses |
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Location: Loma Linda, CA | This is probably the worst question ever to ask but what does PC stand for...
Im guessing MP (like stingray) is for Mel Potter... but who is PC :( Im embarrassed for asking lol. |
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Location: Arizona | Nevertooold - 2014-07-02 7:11 PM
Alamo1 - 2014-07-02 4:59 PM  Futurity winners are awesome but you need a horse that can go for the long haul. Rodeo or open horses have to be able to last. Too many futurity horses end up blown up and are burnt out before they are 10 years old. That's true but there is so much money to be won in futurities and people want their return quick...Not 10 years down the road. It's just the way it is.
Like I said...Many of his get are not user friendly and why put up with it when you can breed to a horse that produces winners and are easy to get along with for a cheaper stud fee?. It is what it is. It took the Potter's quite a while before they found a winning combo for Sherry and now they know what crosses well with him but in reality...those mares would probably cross well with a jackass.Â
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