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    Location: Madill Ok | I like number 9.. your freinds robbed a liquor store. You didnt because you were home sick??
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     Location: I can see the end of the world from here! | kmcsunshine - 2014-07-13 3:23 PM
What is your opinion of some of these? Kinsey and I will be discussing them at length.
For each of the following 10 examples (1) decide which amendment is involved, (2) and which rights are being violated. (3) What is the right thing to do according to The Bill of Rights?
Then, write a 100-200 word paragraph explain which amendment you think is the most important for the protection of your rights and why.
1. You hear a knock at the door. You open it and find 2 police officers asking if they can come into your home to talk about a family member of yours. You say yes. While sitting in the living room, one of the officers sees a bomb on your shelf and confiscates it. You are arrested.
2. You are planning a public meeting to protest a new law. You have filed all of your permits and the city has said that you can have this meeting. The night before the meeting, however, the mayor finds out that you were arrested 4 years ago in another town for starting a riot. On the day of the meeting, police show up to prevent you from holding the meeting.
3. You have lived in your home for 15 years. During that time the city has grown and there are not enough roads. The sheriff comes to your house and tells you that you have to move because a new road was going to be built right through your property. You tell the officer that you like living there and don’t want to move. He tells you, "Too bad, you have 30 days to get out."
4. The principal at the high school in your town decides that all students can have extra holidays from school for the Jewish holiday of Yom Kippur. Most of the students were happy, but some parents were mad because they didn't have baby-sitters.
5. You are a new immigrant to the United States. One night you were coming out of a store and the police arrested you for stealing. You said you didn't do anything, but the police were convinced that they had the right person. When you told them that you wanted a lawyer, one of the policemen said, "You don't need a lawyer, I know that you're guilty. People from your country are always stealing. We're locking you up and throwing away the key."
6. You were arrested, tried, and convicted of kidnapping. There was no doubt that you were guilty. The judge said, "I can either send you to prison for 12 years or I can make you shave your head and stand in the middle of the freeway and dodge traffic for 8 hours a day so that you will know what it is like to be scared to death. Prison is too good for you."
7. You have worked in the same place for 17 years and only had one raise. You felt like your boss owed you something, so you took a computer. When the boss found out, he had you arrested. You asked for a trial because you said you were innocent. But the police said you didn't get a trial because they already caught you with the stolen computer, you were guilty.
8. At a gun collecting show, you picked out 5 guns that you wanted to add to your collection of guns from the 1800’s. When you tried to pay for the guns, you were told that you weren’t allowed to take so many guns. You could only buy 2 guns because the Constitution allows citizens to have one gun per adult family member.
9. Your friends robbed a liquor store. You did not help because you were at home sick. The police arrested the whole group including you. At the trial, you said that you were innocent and could prove it because you had witnesses. However, your witnesses were your friends, and if they said you weren’t there, it would mean that they were at the liquor store.
10. Your city is in a state of emergency. For 6 days there have been riots and fires. The National Guard was called to restore peace. When officers show up at your door demanding some food and a place to sleep, you were so afraid of their guns that you let them in and gave them what they wanted.
#1...4th Amendment. Say there's a search warrant for marijuana, they don't find that, but, they find heroin instead...no can do...gotta get a new search warrant..."...particularly describing the place to be searched, and the person or things to be seized".
#2...1st, 5th & 6th Amendments. "...the right of the people to peacefully assemble...due process of law...impartial jury in the State & districtwherein crime shall have been committed..."
#3...4th & 5th..."...unreasonable seizure...just compensation...". The sheriff doesn't have that authority in the first place.
#4...1st Amendment...idk! "...no law respecting an establishment of religion...", however, this is a principal making decisions that he/she has no authority to make without the school board & public opinion...not really a 'right' being violated?
#5...6th Amendment. "...accused shall enjoy...right to a speedy & public trial...to be confronted with witnesses against him...process for obtaining witnesses in his favor....assistance for councel for his defense".
#6...8th Amendment. "....no....cruel & unusual punishments inflicted". (I'm with Komet, though!)
#7....6th Amendment. See above.
#8...2nd, 9th & 10th Amendments. 2nd is obvious....the right of the people to keep & bear arms. 9th is less obvious to most & it is the corner stone we tend to ignore....nobody, including the Supreme Court, has the right to belittle or intimidate you, nor to deny you the rights protected by our Constitution. However, the 10th Amendment allows for the states & the people to set rules, regulations (how many guns you can buy at one time...the waiting period)....I guess.
#9...5th Amendment. Due process...nor compelled to be a witness against himself. We presume the 'innocent until proven guilty' even though it's not stated one time in the Constitution or the Bill of Rights...however, it is common law. Guilty by association is a moral code...not a legal standing.
#10...3rd Amendment. "No soldier shall, in time of peace be quartered in any house, without the consent of the owner, nor in time of war, but in a manner prescribed by law". Was war declared? Not.
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             Location: North Texas | TessBelle - 2014-07-14 2:17 AM foundation horse - 2014-07-13 5:02 PM Interesting set of scenarios.
I answered all of them off the top of my head. I am looking forward to what kind of responses The Opposite of The Aisle will provide (if any ).
Also, who will have to 'look up' which scenario falls under what pertinent Amendment.
Another interestion observation is that only scenario actually refers to an amendment that was written (specifically ) historically in regards to the runup to The Revolutionary War. I wonder who else will be able to pick that particular scenario out and which amendment.
Thank You Tia for sharing! 
I don't know how to highlight part of your statement so I copied and paste it.... Another interestion observation is that only scenario actually refers to an amendment that was written (specifically ) historically in regards to the runup to The Revolutionary War. I wonder who else will be able to pick that particular scenario out and which amendment. I may be completely wrong but I'm goons see if I'm right. I believe you are referring to scenario #10..... During the Revolutionary War soilders would go into people's houses and take what ever they wanted. Whether it be food, guns, or something else. I'm guessing the 3rd amendment, but could partially be the 4th amendment. I would think scenario #8 would also be a violation of the 2nd amendment. We had to do a ton of this kind of stuff when I took Goverment when I was a senior in high school.
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             Location: North Texas | musikmaker - 2014-07-14 9:35 AM kmcsunshine - 2014-07-13 3:23 PM
What is your opinion of some of these? Kinsey and I will be discussing them at length.
For each of the following 10 examples (1) decide which amendment is involved, (2) and which rights are being violated. (3) What is the right thing to do according to The Bill of Rights?
Then, write a 100-200 word paragraph explain which amendment you think is the most important for the protection of your rights and why.
1. You hear a knock at the door. You open it and find 2 police officers asking if they can come into your home to talk about a family member of yours. You say yes. While sitting in the living room, one of the officers sees a bomb on your shelf and confiscates it. You are arrested.
2. You are planning a public meeting to protest a new law. You have filed all of your permits and the city has said that you can have this meeting. The night before the meeting, however, the mayor finds out that you were arrested 4 years ago in another town for starting a riot. On the day of the meeting, police show up to prevent you from holding the meeting.
3. You have lived in your home for 15 years. During that time the city has grown and there are not enough roads. The sheriff comes to your house and tells you that you have to move because a new road was going to be built right through your property. You tell the officer that you like living there and don’t want to move. He tells you, "Too bad, you have 30 days to get out."
4. The principal at the high school in your town decides that all students can have extra holidays from school for the Jewish holiday of Yom Kippur. Most of the students were happy, but some parents were mad because they didn't have baby-sitters.
5. You are a new immigrant to the United States. One night you were coming out of a store and the police arrested you for stealing. You said you didn't do anything, but the police were convinced that they had the right person. When you told them that you wanted a lawyer, one of the policemen said, "You don't need a lawyer, I know that you're guilty. People from your country are always stealing. We're locking you up and throwing away the key."
6. You were arrested, tried, and convicted of kidnapping. There was no doubt that you were guilty. The judge said, "I can either send you to prison for 12 years or I can make you shave your head and stand in the middle of the freeway and dodge traffic for 8 hours a day so that you will know what it is like to be scared to death. Prison is too good for you."
7. You have worked in the same place for 17 years and only had one raise. You felt like your boss owed you something, so you took a computer. When the boss found out, he had you arrested. You asked for a trial because you said you were innocent. But the police said you didn't get a trial because they already caught you with the stolen computer, you were guilty.
8. At a gun collecting show, you picked out 5 guns that you wanted to add to your collection of guns from the 1800’s. When you tried to pay for the guns, you were told that you weren’t allowed to take so many guns. You could only buy 2 guns because the Constitution allows citizens to have one gun per adult family member.
9. Your friends robbed a liquor store. You did not help because you were at home sick. The police arrested the whole group including you. At the trial, you said that you were innocent and could prove it because you had witnesses. However, your witnesses were your friends, and if they said you weren’t there, it would mean that they were at the liquor store.
10. Your city is in a state of emergency. For 6 days there have been riots and fires. The National Guard was called to restore peace. When officers show up at your door demanding some food and a place to sleep, you were so afraid of their guns that you let them in and gave them what they wanted. #1...4th Amendment. Say there's a search warrant for marijuana, they don't find that, but, they find heroin instead...no can do...gotta get a new search warrant..."...particularly describing the place to be searched, and the person or things to be seized".
#2...1st, 5th & 6th Amendments. "...the right of the people to peacefully assemble...due process of law...impartial jury in the State & districtwherein crime shall have been committed..."
#3...4th & 5th..."...unreasonable seizure...just compensation...". The sheriff doesn't have that authority in the first place.
#4...1st Amendment...idk! "...no law respecting an establishment of religion...", however, this is a principal making decisions that he/she has no authority to make without the school board & public opinion...not really a 'right' being violated?
#5...6th Amendment. "...accused shall enjoy...right to a speedy & public trial...to be confronted with witnesses against him...process for obtaining witnesses in his favor....assistance for councel for his defense".
#6...8th Amendment. "....no....cruel & unusual punishments inflicted". (I'm with Komet, though!)
#7....6th Amendment. See above.
#8...2nd, 9th & 10th Amendments. 2nd is obvious....the right of the people to keep & bear arms. 9th is less obvious to most & it is the corner stone we tend to ignore....nobody, including the Supreme Court, has the right to belittle or intimidate you, nor to deny you the rights protected by our Constitution. However, the 10th Amendment allows for the states & the people to set rules, regulations (how many guns you can buy at one time...the waiting period)....I guess.
#9...5th Amendment. Due process...nor compelled to be a witness against himself. We presume the 'innocent until proven guilty' even though it's not stated one time in the Constitution or the Bill of Rights...however, it is common law. Guilty by association is a moral code...not a legal standing.
#10...3rd Amendment. "No soldier shall, in time of peace be quartered in any house, without the consent of the owner, nor in time of war, but in a manner prescribed by law". Was war declared? Not.
Wow! That was interesting! Lol...I think it's great that questions like these are making a comeback!!!! I'll skip on the rest!
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  Location: California | I think it is awesome to see such a positive response to this lesson as it is essentially a Common Core lesson and people have spoken so poorly about the CCSS here on BHW. This is the type of lesson I have my students do everyday in my classes. | |
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             Location: North Texas | phillyincal - 2014-07-14 10:47 AM I think it is awesome to see such a positive response to this lesson as it is essentially a Common Core lesson and people have spoken so poorly about the CCSS here on BHW. This is the type of lesson I have my students do everyday in my classes.
Please provide a specific as to where this lesson is located in a The Common Core Curriclum. Trust but verify ya' know. | |
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     Location: I can see the end of the world from here! | foundation horse - 2014-07-14 9:45 AM musikmaker - 2014-07-14 9:35 AM kmcsunshine - 2014-07-13 3:23 PM
What is your opinion of some of these? Kinsey and I will be discussing them at length.
For each of the following 10 examples (1) decide which amendment is involved, (2) and which rights are being violated. (3) What is the right thing to do according to The Bill of Rights?
Then, write a 100-200 word paragraph explain which amendment you think is the most important for the protection of your rights and why.
1. You hear a knock at the door. You open it and find 2 police officers asking if they can come into your home to talk about a family member of yours. You say yes. While sitting in the living room, one of the officers sees a bomb on your shelf and confiscates it. You are arrested.
2. You are planning a public meeting to protest a new law. You have filed all of your permits and the city has said that you can have this meeting. The night before the meeting, however, the mayor finds out that you were arrested 4 years ago in another town for starting a riot. On the day of the meeting, police show up to prevent you from holding the meeting.
3. You have lived in your home for 15 years. During that time the city has grown and there are not enough roads. The sheriff comes to your house and tells you that you have to move because a new road was going to be built right through your property. You tell the officer that you like living there and don’t want to move. He tells you, "Too bad, you have 30 days to get out."
4. The principal at the high school in your town decides that all students can have extra holidays from school for the Jewish holiday of Yom Kippur. Most of the students were happy, but some parents were mad because they didn't have baby-sitters.
5. You are a new immigrant to the United States. One night you were coming out of a store and the police arrested you for stealing. You said you didn't do anything, but the police were convinced that they had the right person. When you told them that you wanted a lawyer, one of the policemen said, "You don't need a lawyer, I know that you're guilty. People from your country are always stealing. We're locking you up and throwing away the key."
6. You were arrested, tried, and convicted of kidnapping. There was no doubt that you were guilty. The judge said, "I can either send you to prison for 12 years or I can make you shave your head and stand in the middle of the freeway and dodge traffic for 8 hours a day so that you will know what it is like to be scared to death. Prison is too good for you."
7. You have worked in the same place for 17 years and only had one raise. You felt like your boss owed you something, so you took a computer. When the boss found out, he had you arrested. You asked for a trial because you said you were innocent. But the police said you didn't get a trial because they already caught you with the stolen computer, you were guilty.
8. At a gun collecting show, you picked out 5 guns that you wanted to add to your collection of guns from the 1800’s. When you tried to pay for the guns, you were told that you weren’t allowed to take so many guns. You could only buy 2 guns because the Constitution allows citizens to have one gun per adult family member.
9. Your friends robbed a liquor store. You did not help because you were at home sick. The police arrested the whole group including you. At the trial, you said that you were innocent and could prove it because you had witnesses. However, your witnesses were your friends, and if they said you weren’t there, it would mean that they were at the liquor store.
10. Your city is in a state of emergency. For 6 days there have been riots and fires. The National Guard was called to restore peace. When officers show up at your door demanding some food and a place to sleep, you were so afraid of their guns that you let them in and gave them what they wanted. #1...4th Amendment. Say there's a search warrant for marijuana, they don't find that, but, they find heroin instead...no can do...gotta get a new search warrant..."...particularly describing the place to be searched, and the person or things to be seized".
#2...1st, 5th & 6th Amendments. "...the right of the people to peacefully assemble...due process of law...impartial jury in the State & districtwherein crime shall have been committed..."
#3...4th & 5th..."...unreasonable seizure...just compensation...". The sheriff doesn't have that authority in the first place.
#4...1st Amendment...idk! "...no law respecting an establishment of religion...", however, this is a principal making decisions that he/she has no authority to make without the school board & public opinion...not really a 'right' being violated?
#5...6th Amendment. "...accused shall enjoy...right to a speedy & public trial...to be confronted with witnesses against him...process for obtaining witnesses in his favor....assistance for councel for his defense".
#6...8th Amendment. "....no....cruel & unusual punishments inflicted". (I'm with Komet, though!)
#7....6th Amendment. See above.
#8...2nd, 9th & 10th Amendments. 2nd is obvious....the right of the people to keep & bear arms. 9th is less obvious to most & it is the corner stone we tend to ignore....nobody, including the Supreme Court, has the right to belittle or intimidate you, nor to deny you the rights protected by our Constitution. However, the 10th Amendment allows for the states & the people to set rules, regulations (how many guns you can buy at one time...the waiting period)....I guess.
#9...5th Amendment. Due process...nor compelled to be a witness against himself. We presume the 'innocent until proven guilty' even though it's not stated one time in the Constitution or the Bill of Rights...however, it is common law. Guilty by association is a moral code...not a legal standing.
#10...3rd Amendment. "No soldier shall, in time of peace be quartered in any house, without the consent of the owner, nor in time of war, but in a manner prescribed by law". Was war declared? Not.
Wow! That was interesting! Lol...I think it's great that questions like these are making a comeback!!!! I'll skip on the rest!
I bet you did not have to look them either, now did you? 
Sadly, I cheated to get the wording correct! Lol...I get my trusty little pocket Constitution out every time I have a question concerning our rights...just to be certain & to hopefully ingrain it even deeper into my head. There was a time when I didn't do this & I found I'd been taking liberties, I then found a website that I love...one we should all take a look at: http://www.usconstitution.net/constnot.html#innocent
I'm so very pleased that the public is taking a new interest...at least one good thing has come from our current state of affairs!!! | |
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  Location: California | foundation horse - 2014-07-15 8:50 AM phillyincal - 2014-07-14 10:47 AM I think it is awesome to see such a positive response to this lesson as it is essentially a Common Core lesson and people have spoken so poorly about the CCSS here on BHW. This is the type of lesson I have my students do everyday in my classes. Please provide a specific as to where this lesson is located in a The Common Core Curriclum. Trust but verify ya' know.
Sorry, I am about to board a plane so I don't have the time to do so and will be spending the next week with my grandma :-) Please google the CCSS and look at the reading standards for ELA (we don't have them for History/SS). You will see that the CCSS calls for students to work with informational text (primary sources as opposed to novels/literature) and complete an analysis of the source. Additionally there are writing standards. I would re-word the prompt to include the word analyze vs. explain (explanation/description is lower level thinking), but overall this lesson is typical of what we're trying to do with the CCSS. I'd be glad to get you more info, but it'd be at the end of the week. | |
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| phillyincal - 2014-07-14 11:01 AM foundation horse - 2014-07-15 8:50 AM phillyincal - 2014-07-14 10:47 AM I think it is awesome to see such a positive response to this lesson as it is essentially a Common Core lesson and people have spoken so poorly about the CCSS here on BHW. This is the type of lesson I have my students do everyday in my classes. Please provide a specific as to where this lesson is located in a The Common Core Curriclum. Trust but verify ya' know. Sorry, I am about to board a plane so I don't have the time to do so and will be spending the next week with my grandma :-) Please google the CCSS and look at the reading standards for ELA (we don't have them for History/SS). You will see that the CCSS calls for students to work with informational text (primary sources as opposed to novels/literature) and complete an analysis of the source. Additionally there are writing standards. I would re-word the prompt to include the word analyze vs. explain (explanation/description is lower level thinking), but overall this lesson is typical of what we're trying to do with the CCSS. I'd be glad to get you more info, but it'd be at the end of the week.
Common core my hiney......this material predates common core and all of her assignments use methods such as this because we don't use text books. I have had a long workday or I'd share more. I'm just reading through this real quick to compare hers to these. | |
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   Location: SE Louisiana | musikmaker - 2014-07-14 10:56 AM
foundation horse - 2014-07-14 9:45 AM musikmaker - 2014-07-14 9:35 AM kmcsunshine - 2014-07-13 3:23 PM
What is your opinion of some of these? Â Kinsey and I will be discussing them at length.
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For each of the following 10 examples (1) decide which amendment is involved, (2) and which rights are being violated. (3) What is the right thing to do according to The Bill of Rights?
Then, write a 100-200 word paragraph explain which amendment you think is the most important for the protection of your rights and why.
1. You hear a knock at the door. You open it and find 2 police officers asking if they can come into your home to talk about a family member of yours. You say yes. While sitting in the living room, one of the officers sees a bomb on your shelf and confiscates it. You are arrested.Â
2. You are planning a public meeting to protest a new law. You have filed all of your permits and the city has said that you can have this meeting. The night before the meeting, however, the mayor finds out that you were arrested 4 years ago in another town for starting a riot. On the day of the meeting, police show up to prevent you from holding the meeting.Â
3. You have lived in your home for 15 years. During that time the city has grown and there are not enough roads. The sheriff comes to your house and tells you that you have to move because a new road was going to be built right through your property. You tell the officer that you like living there and don’t want to move. He tells you, "Too bad, you have 30 days to get out."Â
4. The principal at the high school in your town decides that all students can have extra holidays from school for the Jewish holiday of Yom Kippur. Most of the students were happy, but some parents were mad because they didn't have baby-sitters.Â
5. You are a new immigrant to the United States. One night you were coming out of a store and the police arrested you for stealing. You said you didn't do anything, but the police were convinced that they had the right person. When you told them that you wanted a lawyer, one of the policemen said, "You don't need a lawyer, I know that you're guilty. People from your country are always stealing. We're locking you up and throwing away the key."Â
6. You were arrested, tried, and convicted of kidnapping. There was no doubt that you were guilty. The judge said, "I can either send you to prison for 12 years or I can make you shave your head and stand in the middle of the freeway and dodge traffic for 8 hours a day so that you will know what it is like to be scared to death. Prison is too good for you."Â
7. You have worked in the same place for 17 years and only had one raise. You felt like your boss owed you something, so you took a computer. When the boss found out, he had you arrested. You asked for a trial because you said you were innocent. But the police said you didn't get a trial because they already caught you with the stolen computer, you were guilty.Â
8. At a gun collecting show, you picked out 5 guns that you wanted to add to your collection of guns from the 1800’s. When you tried to pay for the guns, you were told that you weren’t allowed to take so many guns. You could only buy 2 guns because the Constitution allows citizens to have one gun per adult family member.Â
9. Your friends robbed a liquor store. You did not help because you were at home sick. The police arrested the whole group including you. At the trial, you said that you were innocent and could prove it because you had witnesses. However, your witnesses were your friends, and if they said you weren’t there, it would mean that they were at the liquor store.Â
10. Your city is in a state of emergency. For 6 days there have been riots and fires. The National Guard was called to restore peace. When officers show up at your door demanding some food and a place to sleep, you were so afraid of their guns that you let them in and gave them what they wanted. #1...4th Amendment. Say there's a search warrant for marijuana, they don't find that, but, they find heroin instead...no can do...gotta get a new search warrant..."...particularly describing the place to be searched, and the person or things to be seized".
Apparently you are not aware the SC has decimated this to the point it may as well not exist anymore..
#2...1st, 5th & 6th Amendments. "...the right of the people to peacefully assemble...due process of law...impartial jury in the State & districtwherein crime shall have been committed..."
#3...4th & 5th..."...unreasonable seizure...just compensation...". The sheriff doesn't have that authority in the first place.
#4...1st Amendment...idk! "...no law respecting an establishment of religion...", however, this is a principal making decisions that he/she has no authority to make without the school board & public opinion...not really a 'right' being violated?
#5...6th Amendment. "...accused shall enjoy...right to a speedy & public trial...to be confronted with witnesses against him...process for obtaining witnesses in his favor....assistance for counsel for his defense".
This is another one you missed..... If the police just haul you straight to prison and bypass the courts...what are you to do?
#6...8th Amendment. "....no....cruel & unusual punishments inflicted". (I'm with Komet, though!)
#7....6th Amendment. See above.
#8...2nd, 9th & 10th Amendments. 2nd is obvious....the right of the people to keep & bear arms. 9th is less obvious to most & it is the corner stone we tend to ignore....nobody, including the Supreme Court, has the right to belittle or intimidate you, nor to deny you the rights protected by our Constitution. However, the 10th Amendment allows for the states & the people to set rules, regulations (how many guns you can buy at one time...the waiting period)....I guess.
This is another one that is gone Gone GONE!!! Practically any offense real or imagined is enough to take your "gun rights" away..
I got caught with 3 good lines of cocaine 25 years ago and can never own a firearm again. PPFFftTTT!!!!! Don't even start with me...
#9...5th Amendment. Due process...nor compelled to be a witness against himself. We presume the 'innocent until proven guilty' even though it's not stated one time in the Constitution or the Bill of Rights...however, it is common law. Guilty by association is a moral code...not a legal standing.
#10...3rd Amendment. "No soldier shall, in time of peace be quartered in any house, without the consent of the owner, nor in time of war, but in a manner prescribed by law". Was war declared? Not.
Wow! That was interesting! Lol...I think it's great that questions like these are making a comeback!!!! I'll skip on the rest!
 I bet you did not have to look them either, now did you? 
Sadly, I cheated to get the wording correct! Lol...I get my trusty little pocket Constitution out every time I have a question concerning our rights...just to be certain & to hopefully ingrain it even deeper into my head. There was a time when I didn't do this & I found I'd been taking liberties, I then found a website that I love...one we should all take a look at: http://www.usconstitution.net/constnot.html#innocent
I'm so very pleased that the public is taking a new interest...at least one good thing has come from our current state of affairs!!!Â
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   Location: SE Louisiana | foundation horse - 2014-07-14 10:42 AM
TessBelle - 2014-07-14 2:17 AM foundation horse - 2014-07-13 5:02 PM Â Interesting set of scenarios.
 I answered all of them off the top of my head. I am looking forward to what kind of responses The Opposite of The Aisle will provide (if any ).
 Also, who will have to 'look up' which scenario falls under what pertinent Amendment.
 Another interestion observation is that only scenario actually refers to an amendment that was written (specifically ) historically in regards to the runup to The Revolutionary War. I wonder who else will be able to pick that particular scenario out and which amendment.
 Thank You Tia for sharing! 
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 I don't know how to highlight part of your statement so I copied and paste it.... Another interestion observation is that only scenario actually refers to an amendment that was written (specifically ) historically in regards to the runup to The Revolutionary War. I wonder who else will be able to pick that particular scenario out and which amendment. I may be completely wrong but I'm goons see if I'm right. I believe you are referring to scenario #10..... During the Revolutionary War soilders would go into people's houses and take what ever they wanted. Whether it be food, guns, or something else. I'm guessing the 3rd amendment, but could partially be the 4th amendment. I would think scenario #8 would also be a violation of the 2nd amendment. We had to do a ton of this kind of stuff when I took Goverment when I was a senior in high school.
You are correct. The 3rd Amendment is Scenario #10 falls under.
I don't know that they could go in and take whatever they wanted... But citizens were required to provide room and board to British solders. | |
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| kmcsunshine - 2014-07-14 5:10 PM phillyincal - 2014-07-14 11:01 AM foundation horse - 2014-07-15 8:50 AM phillyincal - 2014-07-14 10:47 AM I think it is awesome to see such a positive response to this lesson as it is essentially a Common Core lesson and people have spoken so poorly about the CCSS here on BHW. This is the type of lesson I have my students do everyday in my classes. Please provide a specific as to where this lesson is located in a The Common Core Curriclum. Trust but verify ya' know. Sorry, I am about to board a plane so I don't have the time to do so and will be spending the next week with my grandma :-) Please google the CCSS and look at the reading standards for ELA (we don't have them for History/SS). You will see that the CCSS calls for students to work with informational text (primary sources as opposed to novels/literature) and complete an analysis of the source. Additionally there are writing standards. I would re-word the prompt to include the word analyze vs. explain (explanation/description is lower level thinking), but overall this lesson is typical of what we're trying to do with the CCSS. I'd be glad to get you more info, but it'd be at the end of the week. Common core my hiney......this material predates common core and all of her assignments use methods such as this because we don't use text books. I have had a long workday or I'd share more. I'm just reading through this real quick to compare hers to these.
Common core didn't just fall out of the sky. Last time I checked the constitution pre-dates American text books. It's been in every text book since we started American history. The common core DOES cover history through literacy. Go to commoncore.org and look up the standards. It's under the literay heading at first. Both 9-10 and 11-12 standards meet the criteria that this assignment is based around. | |
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      Location: oklahoma | My son, age 14 got all but 2 correct. I however, didnt fare so well. | |
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             Location: North Texas | kmcsunshine - 2014-07-14 5:10 PM phillyincal - 2014-07-14 11:01 AM foundation horse - 2014-07-15 8:50 AM phillyincal - 2014-07-14 10:47 AM I think it is awesome to see such a positive response to this lesson as it is essentially a Common Core lesson and people have spoken so poorly about the CCSS here on BHW. This is the type of lesson I have my students do everyday in my classes. Please provide a specific as to where this lesson is located in a The Common Core Curriclum. Trust but verify ya' know. Sorry, I am about to board a plane so I don't have the time to do so and will be spending the next week with my grandma :-) Please google the CCSS and look at the reading standards for ELA (we don't have them for History/SS). You will see that the CCSS calls for students to work with informational text (primary sources as opposed to novels/literature) and complete an analysis of the source. Additionally there are writing standards. I would re-word the prompt to include the word analyze vs. explain (explanation/description is lower level thinking), but overall this lesson is typical of what we're trying to do with the CCSS. I'd be glad to get you more info, but it'd be at the end of the week. Common core my hiney......this material predates common core and all of her assignments use methods such as this because we don't use text books. I have had a long workday or I'd share more. I'm just reading through this real quick to compare hers to these.
KM, I find the Teacher's responses extremely interesting. Or the Teachers who endorse Common Core anyway.
I agree with whoever stated The Constitution predates Text Books (I want to say KMCSunshine). Everything I have read in reference to, and relationship to CC, leads to me that this Cirriculm is a money making venture for those who have pushed it, along with the fact that History has been rewritten to reflect Current Politically Correct Platitudes.
But then, I know enough about History in general and American History in particular to be capable of disputing the textbook lessons reasonable facts.
I get a kick out of my boys calling the History and Government Teachers 'out' on particular textbook lessons, because I have taught them the truth in opposition to what the textbook cirriculm claims to be factual. I have had very positive conservations with My Boys Teachers over the years and The Teachers have been rather receptive. Which is a good thing. Cause the idea of Public School was started by Horace Mann from the North East and His stated goal was to conform Public School Students to 'His' way of thinking. Education has become a 'racket' over the years, publicly, charter school and private school speaking due to the idea of chasing the all might dollar. I wish more people would wake up to this concept surrounding children and education. Parents need to be involved! Because without Parent Involvement there is no telling what kind of mush will spoon fed into children's brains! | |
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        Location: Displaced Iowegian | CurlyQ - 2014-07-14 9:05 PM My son, age 14 got all but 2 correct. I however, didnt fare so well.
Public or Home Schooled? | |
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             Location: North Texas | Oh, for the record, I am a public school product. My Boys are Charter School (cross between Private and Public Students). | |
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        Location: Displaced Iowegian | foundation horse - 2014-07-14 9:15 PM Oh, for the record, I am a public school product. My Boys are Charter School (cross between Private and Public Students).
Oh dear....are you sure? You seem way to smaaaaart to be a product of "public" schools"..........    | |
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     Location: Wonderful Wyoming | I am just starting to learn about common core and in my small community, the ONLY ones that like it, are the present teachers. I am not saying it is all bad, as I don't know all the details. I will be sending both my boys to school, the oldest does kindergarten this fall. I will stay involved the entire time as there are a lot of things common core that I don't agree with so far. | |
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             Location: North Texas | wyoming barrel racer - 2014-07-14 9:21 PM I am just starting to learn about common core and in my small community, the ONLY ones that like it, are the present teachers. I am not saying it is all bad, as I don't know all the details. I will be sending both my boys to school, the oldest does kindergarten this fall. I will stay involved the entire time as there are a lot of things common core that I don't agree with so far.
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