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Location: Midwest | readytorodeo - 2014-07-24 5:26 AM I have had several hair analysis done on horses. It has been spot on every time.
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| FLITASTIC - 2014-07-23 3:28 PM My vet says that roping and running barrels is fine after being nerves, just not jumping and something else I don't do. Lol how long does the recovery take?
6-8 weeks with a heel nerve, then working them back into normal routine. |
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Location: Texas | I have had 3 horses nerved. 1 to be comfortable turned on and retired. The other 2 were very nice horses that went on to win. 1 won High School Nationals and had been nerved 3 times. I don't understand why a vet would say don't run after this procedure. |
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Location: Riding Crackhead. | readytorodeo - 2014-07-24 5:26 AM I have had several hair analysis done on horses. It has been spot on every time.
So you had hair analysis done on horses that were unsound - you bought their "special" supplements and now your horses are sound.....is that correct or am I missing something? I find this very hard to believe. |
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| CYA Ranch - 2014-07-24 11:12 AM readytorodeo - 2014-07-24 5:26 AM I have had several hair analysis done on horses. It has been spot on every time. So you had hair analysis done on horses that were unsound - you bought their "special" supplements and now your horses are sound.....is that correct or am I missing something? I find this very hard to believe.
Yes I bought the herbs that were reccomended. Horse is sound. |
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| barrelracr131 - 2014-07-24 7:20 AM readytorodeo - 2014-07-24 5:26 AM I have had several hair analysis done on horses. It has been spot on every time.
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| workerbee - 2014-07-24 8:58 AM
I have had 3 horses nerved. 1 to be comfortable turned on and retired. The other 2 were very nice horses that went on to win. 1 won High School Nationals and had been nerved 3 times. I don't understand why a vet would say don't run after this procedure.
Thank you, I spoke to another vet today who said there is a new product from Europe that is just being legalized in the US called Tildren (sp), but it costs about $500 for a 1x/IV that should last about 6 months. I still have one more injection to try then I will have to re-evaluate things. My mare is still rather young so its a bitter pill to swallow retiring her to be a broodmare at this point, but of course I am getting wore out (going broke) spending $$ to get her sound enough to be competitive again. Each trip to the vet experienced enough to treat this is 4 1/2hrs one way! |
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| I just had Tildren done on my horse Tuesday. We opted for the single limb profusion (350.00) rather than the IV whole body approach. My horse is only sore in one foot. So thats what I went with. It will be a month to see if it works. If it does, I may do the whole body next time. |
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| Please do keep me posted if you feel Tildren works. Is the month wait is to reach its full effectivness? |
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Location: Riding Crackhead. | readytorodeo - 2014-07-24 1:57 PM CYA Ranch - 2014-07-24 11:12 AM readytorodeo - 2014-07-24 5:26 AM I have had several hair analysis done on horses. It has been spot on every time. So you had hair analysis done on horses that were unsound - you bought their "special" supplements and now your horses are sound.....is that correct or am I missing something? I find this very hard to believe.
I'm sorry but if this were true then every vet in the world would be on it like flies on poop. Dolly wouldn't be retired, Jethro wouldn't be dead, Louie wouldn't be on stall rest, I'll quit there but there are many more. |
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| Yes, Tildren does not work over night. The drug has to get into the bony structures and do its job. Vet said if it was going to work it would be showing by 4 weeks and could reach max effectiveness by 6 weeks. Some horses never need to be done again while others need annual treatments and some every 6 months. |
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| ChicksInferno - 2014-07-24 4:49 PM
workerbee - 2014-07-24 8:58 AM
I have had 3 horses nerved. 1 to be comfortable turned on and retired. The other 2 were very nice horses that went on to win. 1 won High School Nationals and had been nerved 3 times. I don't understand why a vet would say don't run after this procedure.
Thank you, I spoke to another vet today who said there is a new product from Europe that is just being legalized in the US called Tildren (sp ), but it costs about $500 for a 1x/IV that should last about 6 months. I still have one more injection to try then I will have to re-evaluate things. My mare is still rather young so its a bitter pill to swallow retiring her to be a broodmare at this point, but of course I am getting wore out (going broke ) spending $$ to get her sound enough to be competitive again. Each trip to the vet experienced enough to treat this is 4 1/2hrs one way!
Tildren is not new its just now being FDA approved which means it is now WAYYYYY more expensive. |
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| My vet said just the opposite. It is extremely expensive now because it has to come from Europe. The FDA approved version is now called CEVA. She said that if my horse needed it again it would be cheaper by next year. |
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| CYA Ranch - 2014-07-24 4:36 PM readytorodeo - 2014-07-24 1:57 PM CYA Ranch - 2014-07-24 11:12 AM readytorodeo - 2014-07-24 5:26 AM I have had several hair analysis done on horses. It has been spot on every time. So you had hair analysis done on horses that were unsound - you bought their "special" supplements and now your horses are sound.....is that correct or am I missing something? I find this very hard to believe.
This is your opinion. Everyone is entitled to have one. It worked for my horses. And Jethro was on SilverLining Herbs. Dollie has navicular and I know that she tried herbs on her. I believe Animal Element Detox. Hair analysis does not replace a vet. But it can assist with diagnosis. |
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| FLITASTIC - 2014-07-24 5:43 PM
My vet said just the opposite. It is extremely expensive now because it has to come from Europe. The FDA approved version is now called CEVA. She said that if my horse needed it again it would be cheaper by next year.
This is exactly what my vet said. |
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Location: Jersey Girl | The horse in my avatar was de-nerved over 3 years ago without issue. The cost was $800. I barrel raced her for about 2 years but retired her due to an unrelated issue. She is still 100% but is just trail horse now. |
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| Someone asked about how this affects selling? I have what I would call a High-End mare that I am considering de-nerving but I am concerned about the future and what this will do to her value (not that without it she is worth much) but I would hate to do something without all of the information. Would people buy a mare that had been nerved?
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| readytorodeo - 2014-07-24 3:26 AM I have had several hair analysis done on horses. It has been spot on every time.
For vitamin/mineral deficiencies that could potentially cause some sort of body or muscle "soreness", I could maaaaybe see this. To find a "lameness" issue, not so much. |
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| ChicksInferno - 2014-07-23 11:22 AM
I have been dealing with some soundness issues the last 3 years with one of my horses. At my last vet appointment the dr said she is a candidate for de-nerving. We did not get any farther into this discussion (I have full intentions of doing so) but I would just like to hear what everyones experiences are with this procedure. Good/bad. Pros/cons.
I have had several horses over the years that have been nerved and never had a problem. However I never had one that had the entire hoof nerved that I would not suggest. I would suggest that you try Sarapin and Vet A Log. It lasts 6-8 weeks and your Vet can divide the hoof into 4 sections and inject in only the effected section. If you get the results you want than you can decide if you want to take it farther and have that area nerved. Good luck |
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