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Location: The edge of no where | ACEINTHEHOLE - 2014-07-25 9:23 AM MS2011 - 2014-07-25 8:13 AM For a 4-H project horse, sure. There are several that seem to be nice all-around horses. If I wanted something to rodeo on or a 1d horse, then no. If you don't want to get outrun at a rodeo or jackpot by an appy (or think they are not 1D/rodeo potential) then don't come to N.E. Oklahoma.. at any given moment you just might get your tail handed to you by a lady and her appy!
I'm not saying that one can't run barrels and be tough, because they certainly can....
How many Apps have you seen in the barrels at NFR? How many have won the BFA?
I'm just gonna go with the odds and probably stick to a QH bred to run barrels. |
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Location: DUMPING CATS AND PIGS IN TEXAS :) | MS2011 - 2014-07-25 9:39 AM ACEINTHEHOLE - 2014-07-25 9:23 AM MS2011 - 2014-07-25 8:13 AM For a 4-H project horse, sure. There are several that seem to be nice all-around horses. If I wanted something to rodeo on or a 1d horse, then no. If you don't want to get outrun at a rodeo or jackpot by an appy (or think they are not 1D/rodeo potential) then don't come to N.E. Oklahoma.. at any given moment you just might get your tail handed to you by a lady and her appy!
How many Apps have you seen in the barrels at NFR? How many have won the BFA?
I'm just gonna go with the odds and probably stick to a QH bred to run barrels.
Oh no, you didn't lol.....now, I'm going to find my green horse and you're going down lol. |
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Location: NE Texas | MS2011 - 2014-07-25 9:39 AM ACEINTHEHOLE - 2014-07-25 9:23 AM MS2011 - 2014-07-25 8:13 AM For a 4-H project horse, sure. There are several that seem to be nice all-around horses. If I wanted something to rodeo on or a 1d horse, then no. If you don't want to get outrun at a rodeo or jackpot by an appy (or think they are not 1D/rodeo potential) then don't come to N.E. Oklahoma.. at any given moment you just might get your tail handed to you by a lady and her appy!
How many Apps have you seen in the barrels at NFR? How many have won the BFA?
I'm just gonna go with the odds and probably stick to a QH bred to run barrels.
It's simple economics.....how many appys are born each year vs quarter horses? Then how many of those few born make it into the hands of futurity trainers or barrel horse people....very few. I would say that if the numbers were equal on foals born for appys and QH's, and then the numbers were equal as to the number of appys that went to trainers, then statistics would be much different. I'd say less than 5% of the horses going to futurity trainers are appys, maybe more like 1%.
I'd love to have a running bred appy....know where there is one at that i'd still like to have (wink, wink, total performance) and wouldn't bat an eye if the horse was made right....spots or no spots. That being said, if you are buying an appy or a paint for the purpose of training them to sell, I would agree that they bring less than a comparable QH....and I think this is simply due to the fact that no matter how nicely they work, there are still paint/appy haters out there. |
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Location: Greenville Texas | I think C.James rode one at the NFR...I cant remember when...but I'm pretty sure it was her or one of the other top hands.
The history of Appaloosa's is very very interesting and if you read closely you'll learn why the breed has had to deal with bad press.
It stemmed from the Indian wars and what happened to the breed thru the U.S. goverment during that time.
I like Appys but I like any sort of good horse no matter the breed...so I'm not trying to start an argument or anything...I'm just saying there is alot more to the story of Appys than is commonly known and I feel bad that they get such a bad P.R.
If you have a AQHA that acts like an ass...it isn't "Oh I Hate Quarter Horses"....but if you have a horse that acts like a jerk and it has appy spots...it's immediately a BAD Appaloosa and how awful the Appaloosa breed is.
Horses are horses...some good some not no matter the breed.
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Location: NE Texas | brushycreekfarm - 2014-07-25 9:55 AM I think C.James rode one at the NFR...I cant remember when...but I'm pretty sure it was her or one of the other top hands.
The history of Appaloosa's is very very interesting and if you read closely you'll learn why the breed has had to deal with bad press.
It stemmed from the Indian wars and what happened to the breed thru the U.S. goverment during that time.
I like Appys but I like any sort of good horse no matter the breed...so I'm not trying to start an argument or anything...I'm just saying there is alot more to the story of Appys than is commonly known and I feel bad that they get such a bad P.R.
If you have a AQHA that acts like an ass...it isn't "Oh I Hate Quarter Horses"....but if you have a horse that acts like a jerk and it has appy spots...it's immediately a BAD Appaloosa and how awful the Appaloosa breed is.
Horses are horses...some good some not no matter the breed.
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Location: DUMPING CATS AND PIGS IN TEXAS :) | Herbie - 2014-07-25 9:50 AM MS2011 - 2014-07-25 9:39 AM ACEINTHEHOLE - 2014-07-25 9:23 AM MS2011 - 2014-07-25 8:13 AM For a 4-H project horse, sure. There are several that seem to be nice all-around horses. If I wanted something to rodeo on or a 1d horse, then no. If you don't want to get outrun at a rodeo or jackpot by an appy (or think they are not 1D/rodeo potential) then don't come to N.E. Oklahoma.. at any given moment you just might get your tail handed to you by a lady and her appy!
How many Apps have you seen in the barrels at NFR? How many have won the BFA?
I'm just gonna go with the odds and probably stick to a QH bred to run barrels.
I'd love to have a running bred appy....know where there is one at that i'd still like to have (wink, wink, total performance) and wouldn't bat an eye if the horse was made right....spots or no spots. That being said, if you are buying an appy or a paint for the purpose of training them to sell, I would agree that they bring less than a comparable QH....and I think this is simply due to the fact that no matter how nicely they work, there are still paint/appy haters out there.
And......right after I beat MS with my green pony, I'm coming whoop up on you with my super fast spotted mule...prepare for annilation :) |
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Location: NE Texas | LRQHS - 2014-07-25 10:04 AM Herbie - 2014-07-25 9:50 AM MS2011 - 2014-07-25 9:39 AM ACEINTHEHOLE - 2014-07-25 9:23 AM MS2011 - 2014-07-25 8:13 AM For a 4-H project horse, sure. There are several that seem to be nice all-around horses. If I wanted something to rodeo on or a 1d horse, then no. If you don't want to get outrun at a rodeo or jackpot by an appy (or think they are not 1D/rodeo potential) then don't come to N.E. Oklahoma.. at any given moment you just might get your tail handed to you by a lady and her appy!
How many Apps have you seen in the barrels at NFR? How many have won the BFA?
I'm just gonna go with the odds and probably stick to a QH bred to run barrels.
I'd love to have a running bred appy....know where there is one at that i'd still like to have (wink, wink, total performance) and wouldn't bat an eye if the horse was made right....spots or no spots. That being said, if you are buying an appy or a paint for the purpose of training them to sell, I would agree that they bring less than a comparable QH....and I think this is simply due to the fact that no matter how nicely they work, there are still paint/appy haters out there.
Bring it.....as you can see, Many Spots and I have been out in the desert training in the sand.....Phar Lap style. We ain't skeered of you and your Daddy Long Ears.....
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Location: ND | I'd always consider adding another appi to my barn. Growing up the mare I ran at all the local playdays, jackpots & hs rodeo's was a solid bay appi. She was a 1D mare & took me to nationals in hs rodeo. After she passed away I bought Cash, another solid appi. He's the most amazing animal you could ask for. For the first few years I owned him he was my show horse, doing english & western classes, then we added in the speed events as well. After that we had him trained for team roping & currently he's our #1 mounted shooting horse. With me or my brother on him he's consistently in the 1D at shoots. He'll make smoking fast runs for us & then turn around & go right back in the arena & lope through quiet & slow for my mom who just recently started competing.
I do think resale is a little more limited for appi's unless they are winning. I know I could sell mine in a heart beat if I wanted to.....but he's never leaving.
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Location: Land Of Oz | Appy is my fav. I'd buy a colored well bred appy over a qh! That's my preference though. Most appies are raced and then trail horses or broodmares. Not many go on to be barrel horses. Some do. It's not b/c they can't, just that they don't normally seems like. Like it was already mentioned, you've all probably ran against solid appies and never even known it. Mine has a mottled nose or folks in my area probably wouldn't know it either. :)
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Location: DUMPING CATS AND PIGS IN TEXAS :) | Herbie - 2014-07-25 10:13 AM LRQHS - 2014-07-25 10:04 AM Herbie - 2014-07-25 9:50 AM MS2011 - 2014-07-25 9:39 AM ACEINTHEHOLE - 2014-07-25 9:23 AM MS2011 - 2014-07-25 8:13 AM For a 4-H project horse, sure. There are several that seem to be nice all-around horses. If I wanted something to rodeo on or a 1d horse, then no. If you don't want to get outrun at a rodeo or jackpot by an appy (or think they are not 1D/rodeo potential) then don't come to N.E. Oklahoma.. at any given moment you just might get your tail handed to you by a lady and her appy!
How many Apps have you seen in the barrels at NFR? How many have won the BFA?
I'm just gonna go with the odds and probably stick to a QH bred to run barrels.
I'd love to have a running bred appy....know where there is one at that i'd still like to have (wink, wink, total performance) and wouldn't bat an eye if the horse was made right....spots or no spots. That being said, if you are buying an appy or a paint for the purpose of training them to sell, I would agree that they bring less than a comparable QH....and I think this is simply due to the fact that no matter how nicely they work, there are still paint/appy haters out there.
I'm not sure if you are aware of this fact or not, but I have a magical Unicorn horn that was given to me by my Christmas Exchange Buddy........ |
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Location: Greenville Texas | THAT...is a BEAUTIFUL mule !! Love him! |
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Location: South of Canada and North of Mexico | I have one and it's hard as heck to sell him.. I've basically given up. He has spots which turns a lot of people away. His sire has a 104si he's mostly tb on his topside goes back to Mr Spotted Bull and is qh on the bottom with Reckless Dash/DFC on his papers. |
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Location: NE Texas | That is impressive, LRQHS, but pretty sure it isn't more powerful than the petrified grizzly bear...um...mahhood...that was brought back and given to me from a recent Alaskan bear hunt. The Alaskan Indians say the magical grizzly bear.....manhood......is the most feared weapon in all of Alaska, and everyone knows Alaskans are just dang tough!
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Location: DUMPING CATS AND PIGS IN TEXAS :) | Herbie - 2014-07-25 10:25 AM That is impressive, LRQHS, but pretty sure it isn't more powerful than the petrified grizzly bear...um...mahhood...that was brought back and given to me from a recent Alaskan bear hunt. The Alaskan Indians say the magical grizzly bear.....manhood......is the most feared weapon in all of Alaska, and everyone knows Alaskans are just dang tough!
Rought ro! |
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| There is a lady that futurities only Apps. They are nice solid and always hit in the average at the small local futurities. I can't think of her name but I wanna say its Carol? She won't have one ready for the juvenile bc she takes her time. Hers always go in there and work and look like so much fun to run...light and easy. |
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| I would POVE to have aloud colored, kick butt App to rodeo on. I started with Apps and have heard all the jokes and bad press there is about them.
If you want to blow your mind, look up Reminic in Spots, a registered QH. Here is a link to his FB page.
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Reminic-In-Spots/165321711265
If you go to their website, they have links to other well known QH with spots that were important to the Appaloosa industry. Also how crop outs still surface, but with today's DNA parentage verification and the white rule being changed, they now gotta register them as QH.
If he would throw that color, I would breed to him to get my QH with color!
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Location: Kentucky | I sold this Appy last year. I don't think being an Appy hurt him, because people who know certain bloodlines were all over him. Plus he was darn good looking. I won't pass over an Appy, but the ApHC was kind of a pain in the rear to work with in getting him registered.
http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/im+leaving+with+hank
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Location: The edge of no where | Herbie - 2014-07-25 10:03 AM brushycreekfarm - 2014-07-25 9:55 AM I think C.James rode one at the NFR...I cant remember when...but I'm pretty sure it was her or one of the other top hands.
The history of Appaloosa's is very very interesting and if you read closely you'll learn why the breed has had to deal with bad press.
It stemmed from the Indian wars and what happened to the breed thru the U.S. goverment during that time.
I like Appys but I like any sort of good horse no matter the breed...so I'm not trying to start an argument or anything...I'm just saying there is alot more to the story of Appys than is commonly known and I feel bad that they get such a bad P.R.
If you have a AQHA that acts like an ass...it isn't "Oh I Hate Quarter Horses"....but if you have a horse that acts like a jerk and it has appy spots...it's immediately a BAD Appaloosa and how awful the Appaloosa breed is.
Horses are horses...some good some not no matter the breed. Totally agree! And enter wolf whistle here....that's a handsome pony no matter the breed!
I don't hate them at all.... I've actually OWNED a very tough one growing up...and a few POAs.
The one I showed growing up I did really well in both children's hunters and jumpers. He was 14.3 hands of attitude. I could show him in the hunter ring and go quietly and win... ride him to the jumper ring, put his boots and different bridle on him and go fast and win that too. Really smart tough athletic little guy.
Ran a very nice one for some people until he sold. He was lots of fun to ride, super honest and broke, just wasn't a speed demon.
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Location: The edge of no where | LRQHS - 2014-07-25 10:15 AM Herbie - 2014-07-25 10:13 AM LRQHS - 2014-07-25 10:04 AM Herbie - 2014-07-25 9:50 AM MS2011 - 2014-07-25 9:39 AM ACEINTHEHOLE - 2014-07-25 9:23 AM MS2011 - 2014-07-25 8:13 AM For a 4-H project horse, sure. There are several that seem to be nice all-around horses. If I wanted something to rodeo on or a 1d horse, then no. If you don't want to get outrun at a rodeo or jackpot by an appy (or think they are not 1D/rodeo potential) then don't come to N.E. Oklahoma.. at any given moment you just might get your tail handed to you by a lady and her appy!
How many Apps have you seen in the barrels at NFR? How many have won the BFA?
I'm just gonna go with the odds and probably stick to a QH bred to run barrels.
I'd love to have a running bred appy....know where there is one at that i'd still like to have (wink, wink, total performance) and wouldn't bat an eye if the horse was made right....spots or no spots. That being said, if you are buying an appy or a paint for the purpose of training them to sell, I would agree that they bring less than a comparable QH....and I think this is simply due to the fact that no matter how nicely they work, there are still paint/appy haters out there.
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