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Location: Idaho | I may be alone here... but i think the use of chloropromazine is abused. I kinda skimmed through and didnt see anyone else mention it. There may be a time and a place for it but not the way people are using it now. Not sure if it is banned or not but Im not a fan or the way it is used. |
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Location: At the race track with Ah Dee Ohs | heidiinaz - 2014-07-28 11:04 PM Is winstrol a banded substance?
Yes it is. |
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Location: At the race track with Ah Dee Ohs | hlynn - 2014-07-28 11:19 PM 'Juicing up' is wrong. Period. Anything unnatural going into that horse just to make it run faster is just wrong. I was naive when I first came into this sport and I really wish I still was. I had no idea that people shot their horses up just to run. Whether it was to settle them down or hype them up. I had only known all-natural horses. So I had no idea about all these other things. Now I will say in livestock production, there are no legal hormones or steroids used in poultry or swine production. The antibiotics used are for treatment and prevention purposes only, not for 'growth enhancement'. Hormones are used in beef cattle but you're talking a tiny little plastic casing with minimal amount of naturally occurring hormone that is injected into the cattle. The hormones are done doing their thing by the time it comes time to be slaughtered. And there is a huge window of antibiotic free time for animals going to slaughter too. And this is HIGHLY regulated. ANY drug injected into an animal meant for slaughter is monitored. Every drop of those drugs needs to be accounted for. At least on the farm I worked on. I guess the hormones used in beef cattle could be considered morally gray to some people. But they post no threat to the consumer at the end of the line.
First off, you can't make a horse run "faster" than his god given talent. Some drugs they are using is more for a focus and help them think. Is it right....H$!! NO. But it is done nonetheless. And most of the illegal crap being used will eat up horse up and turn them useless. |
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Location: OH | At our TB track Penicillan is a banned substance, there is a small amount of sedative in Penicillan therefore a horse is not allowed to run on it. It will show up in a test. |
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Location: At the race track with Ah Dee Ohs | Mighty Broke - 2014-07-29 12:52 PM At our TB track Penicillan is a banned substance, there is a small amount of sedative in Penicillan therefore a horse is not allowed to run on it. It will show up in a test.
It is in OK also, but if you have had one on it for something, you can declare it at entry time and your alright to run, Forget to declare and well you are SOL!! |
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Location: Opelousas, LA | total performance - 2014-07-29 1:12 PM Mighty Broke - 2014-07-29 12:52 PM At our TB track Penicillan is a banned substance, there is a small amount of sedative in Penicillan therefore a horse is not allowed to run on it. It will show up in a test. It is in OK also, but if you have had one on it for something, you can declare it at entry time and your alright to run, Forget to declare and well you are SOL!!
Yep, Pen G Procaine will test just like your horse has been administered lidocaine and it stays in thier system a while.
I think Clenbuterol is a good drug to talk about the pros and cons of. It has been an absolute lifesaver for two of my kids horses with allergies and COPD, but a HUGE potential for abuse both horse and human.
Clenbuterol is one of the most widely abused drugs on the track down here since the withdrawal time is around 48 hours. I aplaud the states that have put a 14 day withdrawal on it but you have to wonder what is being used in its place. |
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Location: At the race track with Ah Dee Ohs | Barnmom - 2014-07-29 1:22 PM total performance - 2014-07-29 1:12 PM Mighty Broke - 2014-07-29 12:52 PM At our TB track Penicillan is a banned substance, there is a small amount of sedative in Penicillan therefore a horse is not allowed to run on it. It will show up in a test. It is in OK also, but if you have had one on it for something, you can declare it at entry time and your alright to run, Forget to declare and well you are SOL!!
I think Clenbuterol is a good drug to talk about the pros and cons of. It has been an absolute lifesaver for two of my kids horses with allergies and COPD, but a HUGE potential for abuse both horse and human.
Clenbuterol is one of the most widely abused drugs on the track down here since the withdrawal time is around 48 hours. I aplaud the states that have put a 14 day withdrawal on it but you have to wonder what is being used in its place.
I agree, Clenbuterol has it's place. But is way abused on the race tracks everywhere. Especially in Oklahoma. |
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| JMHO but pretty much all drugs are abused anymore and the barrel racers are no exception to the rule. People stack bute/Dex or banimine/Dex all the time. Clenbuteral is highly abused because of its steroidal type properties. Running a barrel horse on lasix (if you enter 50 times in a season that is 50 times you have needled your horse, sorry but that can't be healthy). Winstral, Equipoise, etc. The list goes on and on. |
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