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Defense Attorney for The Horse
 
Location: Claremore, OK | luvinrunnin - 2014-08-19 6:59 AM
She has two of my horses right now and I have another to send when one comes home. She has been awesome to deal with and takes great care of the animals in her care. She's also great about not having a zillion things done (vet work) that aren't needed. She's honest as the day is long and I sure appreciate her!!!
Thanks, luvinrunnin !
I really appreciate you having enough faith in me to send your horses from such a long way. I know it's not easy having them so far away. | |
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Defense Attorney for The Horse
Location: Claremore, OK | BabyJ - 2014-08-18 1:28 PM
What kind of strategy does she use to protect her reputation? Is she selective about horses she takes in based on their potential? If someone was bent and their horse being trained by her but the horse was not a good prospect would she still train it?
I don't think there's really anyway to protect my reputation except to do the right thing even, when no one's looking. That means that the horses in my care come first, whether I own them or someone else. It takes extra care, steps and $ to make sure everyone gets taken care of but it pays off. At any given time there can be $500,000 worth of horses here. It's my number one priority to make sure ALL of the horses receive the same high level of care that my personal horses do.
******The bottom line is the only thing protecting my reputation is satisfied customers.*******
Am I selective about the horses I take based on potential ?
No, not at all. I don't want a bronc or something unsound, that's about it.
If some one sends a horse that was a not a good prospect, would I still train it ?
That depends on what the owner's goals were. I've had some that ask me to evaluate and stop training if I don't think he will make a good horse. I've also had some that tell me that they like the horse, it really doesn't matter what I think and to train him. The owner is made aware of anything that might hinder training, such as soreness, unsoundness, etc.
I want to know the owner's goals and proceed accordingly.
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Location: NE Texas | Liana D - 2014-08-19 8:35 AM BabyJ - 2014-08-18 1:28 PM What kind of strategy does she use to protect her reputation? Is she selective about horses she takes in based on their potential? If someone was bent and their horse being trained by her but the horse was not a good prospect would she still train it? I don't think there's really anyway to protect my reputation except to do the right thing even, when no one's looking. That means that the horses in my care come first, whether I own them or someone else. It takes extra care, steps and $ to make sure everyone gets taken care of but it pays off. At any given time there can be $500,000 worth of horses here. It's my number one priority to make sure ALL of the horses receive the same high level of care that my personal horses do. ******The bottom line is the only thing protecting my reputation is satisfied customers.******* Am I selective about the horses I take based on potential ? No, not at all. I don't want a bronc or something unsound, that's about it. If some one sends a horse that was a not a good prospect, would I still train it ? That depends on what the owner's goals were. I've had some that ask me to evaluate and stop training if I don't think he will make a good horse. I've also had some that tell me that they like the horse, it really doesn't matter what I think and to train him. The owner is made aware of anything that might hinder training, such as soreness, unsoundness, etc. I want to know the owner's goals and proceed accordingly.
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 A Somebody to Everybody
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | Liana D - 2014-08-19 8:35 AM BabyJ - 2014-08-18 1:28 PM What kind of strategy does she use to protect her reputation? Is she selective about horses she takes in based on their potential? If someone was bent and their horse being trained by her but the horse was not a good prospect would she still train it? I don't think there's really anyway to protect my reputation except to do the right thing even, when no one's looking. That means that the horses in my care come first, whether I own them or someone else. It takes extra care, steps and $ to make sure everyone gets taken care of but it pays off. At any given time there can be $500,000 worth of horses here. It's my number one priority to make sure ALL of the horses receive the same high level of care that my personal horses do. ******The bottom line is the only thing protecting my reputation is satisfied customers.******* Am I selective about the horses I take based on potential ? No, not at all. I don't want a bronc or something unsound, that's about it. If some one sends a horse that was a not a good prospect, would I still train it ? That depends on what the owner's goals were. I've had some that ask me to evaluate and stop training if I don't think he will make a good horse. I've also had some that tell me that they like the horse, it really doesn't matter what I think and to train him. The owner is made aware of anything that might hinder training, such as soreness, unsoundness, etc. I want to know the owner's goals and proceed accordingly.
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 Tough Patooty
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Location: Sperry, OK | Liana D - 2014-08-19 8:35 AM BabyJ - 2014-08-18 1:28 PM What kind of strategy does she use to protect her reputation? Is she selective about horses she takes in based on their potential? If someone was bent and their horse being trained by her but the horse was not a good prospect would she still train it? I don't think there's really anyway to protect my reputation except to do the right thing even, when no one's looking. That means that the horses in my care come first, whether I own them or someone else. It takes extra care, steps and $ to make sure everyone gets taken care of but it pays off. At any given time there can be $500,000 worth of horses here. It's my number one priority to make sure ALL of the horses receive the same high level of care that my personal horses do. ******The bottom line is the only thing protecting my reputation is satisfied customers.******* Am I selective about the horses I take based on potential ? No, not at all. I don't want a bronc or something unsound, that's about it. If some one sends a horse that was a not a good prospect, would I still train it ? That depends on what the owner's goals were. I've had some that ask me to evaluate and stop training if I don't think he will make a good horse. I've also had some that tell me that they like the horse, it really doesn't matter what I think and to train him. The owner is made aware of anything that might hinder training, such as soreness, unsoundness, etc. I want to know the owner's goals and proceed accordingly.
And this right here is why your reputations is stellar! This is why people on this borad (and others) send you horses from across the nation, not just local here in Oklahoma! Well done, Liana! | |
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Location: Here | Liana D - 2014-08-19 8:35 AM
BabyJ - 2014-08-18 1:28 PM
What kind of strategy does she use to protect her reputation? Is she selective about horses she takes in based on their potential? If someone was bent and their horse being trained by her but the horse was not a good prospect would she still train it?
I don't think there's really anyway to protect my reputation except to do the right thing even, when no one's looking. That means that the horses in my care come first, whether I own them or someone else. It takes extra care, steps and $ to make sure everyone gets taken care of but it pays off. At any given time there can be $500,000 worth of horses here. It's my number one priority to make sure ALL of the horses receive the same high level of care that my personal horses do.
******The bottom line is the only thing protecting my reputation is satisfied customers.*******
Am I selective about the horses I take based on potential ?
No, not at all. I don't want a bronc or something unsound, that's about it.
If some one sends a horse that was a not a good prospect, would I still train it ?
That depends on what the owner's goals were. I've had some that ask me to evaluate and stop training if I don't think he will make a good horse. I've also had some that tell me that they like the horse, it really doesn't matter what I think and to train him. The owner is made aware of anything that might hinder training, such as soreness, unsoundness, etc.
I want to know the owner's goals and proceed accordingly.
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A Somebody to Everybody
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | Liana D - 2014-08-18 10:48 PM Southtxponygirl - 2014-08-18 1:35 PM LRQHS - 2014-08-18 11:19 AM Also, just how many licks does it take to get to the center of a tootsie roll sucker? (jk, jk, jk) I would never be able to answer that since I would cheat and chomp down on it !
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Location: DUMPING CATS AND PIGS IN TEXAS :) | Southtxponygirl - 2014-08-19 8:56 AM Liana D - 2014-08-18 10:48 PM Southtxponygirl - 2014-08-18 1:35 PM LRQHS - 2014-08-18 11:19 AM Also, just how many licks does it take to get to the center of a tootsie roll sucker? (jk, jk, jk) I would never be able to answer that since I would cheat and chomp down on it !
Nobody likes a cheater lol. | |
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A Somebody to Everybody
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | LRQHS - 2014-08-19 8:57 AM Southtxponygirl - 2014-08-19 8:56 AM Liana D - 2014-08-18 10:48 PM Southtxponygirl - 2014-08-18 1:35 PM LRQHS - 2014-08-18 11:19 AM Also, just how many licks does it take to get to the center of a tootsie roll sucker? (jk, jk, jk) I would never be able to answer that since I would cheat and chomp down on it !
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 Pork Fat is my Favorite
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Location: The Oklahoma plains. | Liana D - 2014-08-18 10:34 PM BabyJ - 2014-08-18 9:49 PM Barnmom - 2014-08-18 5:16 PM TurnLane - 2014-08-18 4:42 PM She is super woman, that's how! No kidding...no one is that super human. Aspiring trainers looking at this forum would benefit from a deeper answer with real best practices. I'll answer this one now, since I know it's not on the show. First of all, thank u, Turn Lane for the "SuperWoman" status. I don't try, nor do I claim to be SuperWoman. I work to be the best I can be at whatever I'm doing, be that baking a pie or training/riding a barrel horse. I've learned from several different disciplines and trainers and blended it into my own remix, still learning new things. I think what Turn Lane is referring to are other talents that I've picked up along the way such as, plumbing, welding, operating heavy equipment, including but not limited to Bulldozers and backhoes. Most of these talents were born out if necessity, not just hobbies. I'm the only one here most of the time so if something breaks down, usually it's easier for me to fix it and go on.
Well modesty is likely your # 1 trait. But let me see if I can sum up the Super Woman status, beyond the ultra uber horse training/competing/ riding skills.
Book smart, common sense, better at lameness diagnosis than most vets, counselor, money market manager, animal psychic, farrier, plumber, horticulturist, carpenter, ground specialist, dog trainer, roper, cow/calf master chute help, homemade jam maker officianado, pot roast chef, deluxe pie maker, tractor technician, weed slayer, feed supplement guru, photographer, videographer, master whiskey taster and many many more. | |
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Shipwrecked and Flat Out Zapped
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Location: DUMPING CATS AND PIGS IN TEXAS :) | Seriously, Liana, everyone speaks very highly of you and now I see why. Keep up the good work :) | |
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Pork Fat is my Favorite
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Location: The Oklahoma plains. | TurnLane - 2014-08-19 9:02 AM Liana D - 2014-08-18 10:34 PM BabyJ - 2014-08-18 9:49 PM Barnmom - 2014-08-18 5:16 PM TurnLane - 2014-08-18 4:42 PM She is super woman, that's how! No kidding...no one is that super human. Aspiring trainers looking at this forum would benefit from a deeper answer with real best practices. I'll answer this one now, since I know it's not on the show. First of all, thank u, Turn Lane for the "SuperWoman" status. I don't try, nor do I claim to be SuperWoman. I work to be the best I can be at whatever I'm doing, be that baking a pie or training/riding a barrel horse. I've learned from several different disciplines and trainers and blended it into my own remix, still learning new things. I think what Turn Lane is referring to are other talents that I've picked up along the way such as, plumbing, welding, operating heavy equipment, including but not limited to Bulldozers and backhoes. Most of these talents were born out if necessity, not just hobbies. I'm the only one here most of the time so if something breaks down, usually it's easier for me to fix it and go on.
Book smart, common sense, better at lameness diagnosis than most vets, counselor, money market manager, animal psychic, farrier, plumber, horticulturist, carpenter, ground specialist, dog trainer, roper, cow/calf master chute help, homemade jam maker officianado, pot roast chef, deluxe pie maker, tractor technician, weed slayer, feed supplement guru, photographer, videographer, master whiskey taster and many many more.
Thought of two of the most important traits:
TRUE FRIEND and MENTOR | |
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Tough Patooty
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Location: Sperry, OK | TurnLane - 2014-08-19 9:09 AM TurnLane - 2014-08-19 9:02 AM Liana D - 2014-08-18 10:34 PM BabyJ - 2014-08-18 9:49 PM Barnmom - 2014-08-18 5:16 PM TurnLane - 2014-08-18 4:42 PM She is super woman, that's how! No kidding...no one is that super human. Aspiring trainers looking at this forum would benefit from a deeper answer with real best practices. I'll answer this one now, since I know it's not on the show. First of all, thank u, Turn Lane for the "SuperWoman" status. I don't try, nor do I claim to be SuperWoman. I work to be the best I can be at whatever I'm doing, be that baking a pie or training/riding a barrel horse. I've learned from several different disciplines and trainers and blended it into my own remix, still learning new things. I think what Turn Lane is referring to are other talents that I've picked up along the way such as, plumbing, welding, operating heavy equipment, including but not limited to Bulldozers and backhoes. Most of these talents were born out if necessity, not just hobbies. I'm the only one here most of the time so if something breaks down, usually it's easier for me to fix it and go on.
Book smart, common sense, better at lameness diagnosis than most vets, counselor, money market manager, animal psychic, farrier, plumber, horticulturist, carpenter, ground specialist, dog trainer, roper, cow/calf master chute help, homemade jam maker officianado, pot roast chef, deluxe pie maker, tractor technician, weed slayer, feed supplement guru, photographer, videographer, master whiskey taster and many many more.
TRUE FRIEND and MENTOR
This is a side of Liana I need to get to know! LOL! I am not fortunate enough to be as close to or know Liana as well as TurnLane, all of what she mentions is true.. but the thing I think is most awesome is the "better at lameness diagnosis that most vets" and let's add in there "better x-ray reader than most vets" too! As a matter of fact, I told her once, the next time I saw her in public I was going to pay her to get on my horse and just ride around for 20 minutes.. come back and tell me what to go have looked at! LOL! She has a feel like none that I have seen before. The video the lady posted yesterday of Liana riding her horse, trying to get him to pick up the correct lead going into a lope, if you watch that video really closely.. you will see, every time that horse begins to pick up the wrong lead Liana feels is BEFORE the horse even has the foot all the way off the gound and transistions back down BEFORE the gate is even picked up! Most trainers I know (so there might be others as good as her, I just don't know them..except maybe Mr. TurnLane), at least have to pick the gate up to know it is wrong, but not Mrs. Liana! This is something that can't be taught!
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Location: The money window | I am blessed enough to have a Firewater Flit bred gelding that was started on the pattern by Lianna at the beginning of his career. This horse has, by far, the best foundation of any other I own. He has a true set of breaks on him, moves off light aids, and bends around the leg unlike any other horse I've ridden. He is a true gem to ride, and I'm often bragging on how dang PLEASURABLE he is to ride, even during a run -- instead of communicating through a set of mechanical, one-sided cues, when I ride my boy it is a true conversation between the both of us. Lianna puts the kind of foundation of a horse that molds them into an athlete that can move over when you ask at high speeds, and adjust the course of a run to avoid issues when necessary.
I've never met Lianna, but from my experience with horses that come from her place -- if you get the chance, GET ONE. | |
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Defense Attorney for The Horse
Location: Claremore, OK | Answers to Turn Lane's questions:
Her favorite book, movie, barrel horse (that she didnt own or train), favorite horseman and food?
Favorite book
Psychocybernetics by Maxwell Maltz. (It's OLD)
A big game changer for me. I learned the mental side of the game early on. A key to my success, even today.
Favorite movie
A bugs Life
Favorite barrel horse
Can't pick one ...Scamper, Bozo and Hotshot. There won't be anymore of them, even if u clone them. True war horses.
Favorite horseman.
My Dad Larry Southard. 1. For being able to create a great rope horse, or any kind of well broke, responsive horse. Self taught, no clinics or videos for him.
2. After giving me a couple months with my first 4 yo he got on him to ride him and proceeded to tell me ask me what the heck I'd been doing ! The colt didn't know anymore than he did when he gave him to me ! It was a wake call for me, I never was guilty of that again. To this day it's what drives me.
AND my Mother, Sandra Southard. Not only is she a good hand, she has a keen eye for an athlete. She taught me what to look for in a good horse and a good cow.
She is really great at everything she does so I would want to know how that is possible?
I answered below, but I'll say it again : it doesn't matter what I do, I strive to be the best, whether it's cleaning a stall or training a horse.
FAVORITE FEED:
Tuff Horse, made at Mid America Feed, where Turn Lane works
I buy it in bulk, 2 tons at a time. All the horses do really well on it.
Edited by Liana D 2014-08-20 1:13 PM
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Defense Attorney for The Horse
Location: Claremore, OK | Answers to Oija's questions:
How do I manage my time ?
Very carefully. Multi tasking, I'm the queen of it ! In the summer I try to get 2/3 of my horses ridden by lunch time. During the heat of the day I run errands, return phone calls, go to the vet, etc. I finish up my riding starting back late in the afternoon into evening.
Because of my obligations to clients I'm very rarely gone all day or over nite. I can be to the Tulsa airport in 45 min. Most of my trips I leave before daylight in the morning and get home late the same nite . I've been know to drive to Stephenville and back in the same day. 15 hrs round trip.
I don't use interns. I saddle, un saddle, wash, doctor, etc. I will know your horse better than you do in a short amount of time.
I have one very hard working helper that cleans stalls, mows a lot of grass and works the ground in the arena and round pens.
I usually lead two or three horses at a time instead of just one.
I do have a 6 horse Equiciser which helps me a lot.
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A Somebody to Everybody
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | Liana D - 2014-08-20 11:48 AM Answers to Oija's questions: How do I manage my time ? Very carefully. Multi tasking, I'm the queen of it ! In the summer I try to get 2/3 of my horses ridden by lunch time. During the heat of the day I run errands, return phone calls, go to the vet, etc. I finish up my riding starting back late in the afternoon into evening. Because of my obligations to clients I'm very rarely gone all day or over nite. I can be to the Tulsa airport in 45 min. Most of my trips I leave before daylight in the morning and get home late the same nite . I've been know to drive to Stephenville and back in the same day. 15 hrs round trip. I don't use interns. I saddle, un saddle, wash, doctor, etc. I will know your horse better than you do in a short amount of time. I have one very hard working helper that cleans stalls, mows a lot of grass and works the ground in the arena and round pens. I usually lead two or three horses at a time instead of just one. I do have a 6 horse Equiciser which helps me a lot.
Dang girl you are a true hard working woman, you got my respect | |
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Defense Attorney for The Horse
Location: Claremore, OK | Answers to Oija's questions:
What does she consider the most important fundamentals before starting a horse on the pattern?
The same that a Reiner would use, basically. Complete body control from head to tail. The horse doesn't have to do any maneuver fancy but he should be familiar with the concepts.
What does her feeding program consist of ?
Good quality Bermuda hay, Tuff Horse pelleted feed, Forco and electrolytes.
What size of horse does she prefer?
I've won on a horse that was 14.1 and won on many that were 16 hands. I prefer somewhere in the middle.
What does she look for in a prospect? What age does she like to start them on the pattern?
I look for athleticism, good attitude and good conformation.
Age isn't as important as the foundation they've got before they go to the pattern.
What does she love the most about Oklahoma?
The people and the horses.
If someone is just getting started, what piece of advice would she consider the most important to give them?
Find someone who's successful and study every aspect of their business.
If someone wanted to start a training business, what point of advice would she give them?
Don't quit your day job. It's a tough business, hard to make a living. You'll need to win some before you train. Start small and build on it as you establish a customer base. There are very few people that will be able to make a living solely on training barrel horses.
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Defense Attorney for The Horse
Location: Claremore, OK | Oija's questions:
What are her preferred therapy methods to get one back running? to maintain one? Does she like any alternative therapies? Which ones and why?
Preferred therapy depends on what the horse's specific problems are.
Ice and a good cold laser are my favorites.
As far as maintenance :
Make sure the horse is legged up and keep him in top physical condition. Be able to realize when the horse is sore and address it. Inject judicially but as needed. Proper shoeing and sometimes therapeutic shoeing.
Alternative therapies:
I've had a lot of education in acupuncture. I use my laser to treat acupuncture points as needed. Know the acupuncture Meridians and Associated Effect Points also helps me figure out where a horse is sore.
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Defense Attorney for The Horse
Location: Claremore, OK | Thanks to everyone for their kinds words and confidence in me ! You rock ! | |
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