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Location: The South | Fun2Run - 2014-08-28 8:53 PM I've had too many broken bones and injuries to keep a bucker. I take them to the sale with full disclosure. Flame away, there are too many horses out there that won't pull a sneaky buck on you.
I have known of some that hurt and reacted that way. I wouldn't invest much into a bucker unless he already had a win record, I had a fortune in him, or I'd raised him and he was out of my favorite mare. Otherwise, sayonara baby.
Yup!! I finally pulled the plug on mine this weekend. After almost 3 years of trying to explain it away and make excuses for him. Life is too short. I dont know why it took me so long to move on.
I still wish they would've given me a little prize at this shoot though, I stayed on and didn't drop my gun, and I got him stopped and went back to shoot the balloons we passed up during his saddle bronc demo.
I did think about shooting him in the head but I had to remind myself that they're only blanks LOL 
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Location: The South | doglady - 2014-08-28 9:10 PM I bought a nice bred 5 year old a year ago and rode him a couple of months. Several times I thought he was going to buck and I pulled him up. I asked the girl I bought him from about him bucking and was told he had never bucked. So I thought maybe I was doing something wrong. I took him to his first exh. barrel race and going slow he flat did an nfr bucking exh. and broke me to pieces. On the way to the hospital I texted the girl and told her what had happened. Her text back to me was "yeah, you gotta beat him to remind him not to buck!". I still hurt and live on pain pills. I would have never bought him in the first place if they would have been honest. I now ask about bucking first thing and several times. I will not spend one minute on a bucker!
Edited to say that this horse is now for sale and I know of two people that called on him and asked if he ever bucked. THey were told -No, never!!
I'm sorry you got hurt, I'll never understand dishonest sellers. I was told that the only time my horse bucked was 'one time when his saddle was too tight'. Umm hmm.
A month ago he bucked the whole way around the round pen when I was lunging him. Full blown, saddle bronc bucking for no reason. |
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| LindsayJordan84 - 2014-08-29 1:22 AM Fun2Run - 2014-08-28 8:53 PM I've had too many broken bones and injuries to keep a bucker. I take them to the sale with full disclosure. Flame away, there are too many horses out there that won't pull a sneaky buck on you.
I have known of some that hurt and reacted that way. I wouldn't invest much into a bucker unless he already had a win record, I had a fortune in him, or I'd raised him and he was out of my favorite mare. Otherwise, sayonara baby.
Yup!! I finally pulled the plug on mine this weekend. After almost 3 years of trying to explain it away and make excuses for him. Life is too short. I dont know why it took me so long to move on.
I still wish they would've given me a little prize at this shoot though, I stayed on and didn't drop my gun, and I got him stopped and went back to shoot the balloons we passed up during his saddle bronc demo.
I did think about shooting him in the head but I had to remind myself that they're only blanks LOL
Edited by Griz 2014-08-29 5:24 AM
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Location: Gainesville, TX | I'd maybe treat for ulcers, often a cause of bucking. That being said, an awesome trainer that specializes in buckers is an awesome way to go.
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Location: The Great West | *almost there* - 2014-08-28 7:35 PM CanCan - 2014-08-28 5:00 PM angelica - 2014-08-28 6:47 PM Send her to work on a ranch with a cowboy for 90 days. She will not buck when you get her back. Hmm. I have noticed, around here, that "ranch broke" means "dirty bucker."
Get G-bean to explain her string. It works.
I got her with 45-60 days on her so I just went to riding she's not been around barrels or roped on though.
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| We had a mare that thought she wanted to buck, so we put her in the bucking string. It took 2 outs for her to decide she did NOT want to buck and never bucked under saddle again. Find a rodeo company that has buckouts and ask if you can take your horse for a try out. Oh, that mare ended up a heck of a pick up horse! We eventually sold her to a friend for a family trail horse and they loved her until the day she died. |
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Location: ND | I have no time for a bucker, I exect my horses to be honest. If they can't be that they are going down the road. |
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Location: California | Black Horse - 2014-08-29 6:11 AM *almost there* - 2014-08-28 7:35 PM CanCan - 2014-08-28 5:00 PM angelica - 2014-08-28 6:47 PM Send her to work on a ranch with a cowboy for 90 days. She will not buck when you get her back. Hmm. I have noticed, around here, that "ranch broke" means "dirty bucker."
Get G-bean to explain her string. It works.
If you keep her, you need to go back to ground work. There is obviously holes in this horses training and I can only imagine the braces she has. She needs to learn to respect you from the ground. You need to get her soft. Teach her how to flex, and do a lot of hind quarters, front quarters work. Get her backing off of you just by your body moving towards her. She needs to learn you move her feet, but that you will also be a fair leader. Really learn the one rein stop. Shut her down before she can fully explode and get you off. Shut her down every single tme. Once you advance and do the hind quarters, front quarters well on the ground (disengaging the hind and front end), and you get the one rein stop down really well, start doing the disengaging under saddle. Right now, you need to completely forget about barrel racing her. She needs to learn to be a saddle horse first. |
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Location: Central Montana | Yuck! I would think long and hard on how much time to spend with one like that. A little crowhop here and there with a young, green, really fresh horse is expected but dirty bucking is a NO NO. |
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Location: North Texas | From prior experience with one bucker in particular:
"Keep this horse and get killed, or send it away with full disclosure". Preferably to the kill pen where no one else will have opportunity to be hurt! |
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| The question to ask is when is the horse bucking? At the beginning, when spooking, when she gets mad, or is it random?
I find if it is random, these horses end up being the dirty buckers that don't grow out of it well, the other option generally you can stop the buck by being attentive to the horse.
For my young ones I am leery of, I will saddle then pony for 2 miles, at all gaits before I get on, this way they are a little tired and all the muscles are warmed up and should be relaxed.
Also a horses size shouldn't impede the length of a ride. If the horse needs to be tired, I don't care how tall/short they are, they will get worked. With my young ones I set goals for what I want to accomplish that ride, if they accomplish everything I want in 30 min, I am done, if it takes 2 hours I will spend the time.
As other people have said saddle fit, saddle pad, ulcers, chiro, I had one that would buck everytime her ribs went out. She is now someone else's pasture pet.
One other thing to check is PSSM, you can do the test, or take her off of all NSC including grass, alfalfa, and grains, if she gets better then you might want to test to confirm, if she doesn't probably not, but the testing is the only way to completely rule out.
I absolutely will not drug a horse, every drug has side effects and depending how the drugs are excreted in the system can damage organs. Too much ACE can cause penile drop and this can be irreversible.
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Location: Four Corners Colorado | *almost there* - 2014-08-29 9:27 AM Black Horse - 2014-08-29 6:11 AM *almost there* - 2014-08-28 7:35 PM CanCan - 2014-08-28 5:00 PM angelica - 2014-08-28 6:47 PM Send her to work on a ranch with a cowboy for 90 days. She will not buck when you get her back. Hmm. I have noticed, around here, that "ranch broke" means "dirty bucker."
Get G-bean to explain her string. It works.
This is what I would do if I was going to keep the horse. I grew up on sale barn horses and the first week no matter how broke they were or seemed we would always start like they were a colt and make sure everything was solid before we put a lot of miles under saddle. You'd be amazed at the holes you find when you do that. |
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Location: Finally horseback again.... | The buck string is a great thing!!!
My best mare was a bucker and six years later she is the nicest mare I own.
It is very simple really, but I will say this, my mare has bucked since she was a baby at a lope. You had to warm her up first by longe line and she would not buck with you.
I treated her for ulcers last month, no more bucking ... AT ALL.
I wish I had done this years ago. |
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Location: Texas! | Will someone post a description of this buck string, preferably with pictures. |
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Location: Pacific Northwest | I don't like dirty buckers...all of mine have bucked at some point when they were younger, but they all had a trigger and I found away around it. As they got older they learned bucking just simply wasn't an option. But to me dirty bucking is a different thing entirely, and I would never be able to trust a horse that breaks in half for no reason. |
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Location: Finally horseback again.... | WYOracer - 2014-08-29 1:37 PM Will someone post a description of this buck string, preferably with pictures.
I dont have pics but I can try.
You take a thin cotton cord, usually can find them at TSC, buy it by the length. Make a loop at one end. You place it on the horse over the poll, around through the upper lip and run the loose end through the eye you created. Kinda like a rope halter. You want to creat a loop/ lip chain type effect. Dont pull it too tight just enough that they cant wiggle it off. Tie it off at the eye.
Then with your horse saddled, attached the snap end of a split rein directly between the ears of the horse. Then you tie off to the saddle horn.
Leave enough length that the horse can carry his head level, but if he bogs his head to buck, it acts as a lip chain and they wont hit it but a few times before they figure it out. Work them on the ground the first few times you use it.
Then as they get used to it , you can use it while riding.
It made a turning point in mine!!
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Location: Deep South | geronabean - 2014-08-28 5:23 PM
My little homemade buckstring has changed a few buckers minds here. I sent one off once to get broke and he came home with it... lol... guess he gave that colt starter a fit, so glad he did cause that string has come in handy!
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Location: NE Texas | BamaCanChaser - 2014-08-29 2:51 PM geronabean - 2014-08-28 5:23 PM My little homemade buckstring has changed a few buckers minds here. I sent one off once to get broke and he came home with it... lol... guess he gave that colt starter a fit, so glad he did cause that string has come in handy! You have piqued my curiosity...
Mine too, gbean. Let's see it! |
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Location: WYOMING | Will post a px this evening |
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Location: Finally horseback again.... | Herbie - 2014-08-29 3:25 PM BamaCanChaser - 2014-08-29 2:51 PM geronabean - 2014-08-28 5:23 PM My little homemade buckstring has changed a few buckers minds here. I sent one off once to get broke and he came home with it... lol... guess he gave that colt starter a fit, so glad he did cause that string has come in handy! You have piqued my curiosity...
Herbie,
I can show you.
She is the one who told me about it for Cat when she was a baby.
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