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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | I see that your stirrups are to long, you look very unbalance, you have way to much movement in your arms/hands, you need to get your hands down. Can you take some barrel lessons from someone that you know so that they can help you? Your horse is very very confused in what you are asking of her/him. Try shortening your stirrups a bit so that you can get up in your turns you are bouncing a whole lot. You balancing off her face. Please dont take me being mean but this is what I am seeing. 
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Location: In The Snow, AZ | Â A lot of herky jerky going on on that poor horses face.... |
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Location: Arkansas | mruggles - 2014-09-18 4:17 PM
how old is this horse and how broke is she
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She's 7 and extremely broke, but a little fragile minded.... |
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A Somebody to Everybody
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | Your saddle looks like a Bob Marshall, and some times riding in a treeless is a no no for some people. What brand is it? |
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Location: Finally horseback again.... | moorehorses - 2014-09-18 4:34 PM mruggles - 2014-09-18 4:17 PM how old is this horse and how broke is she
m She's 7 and extremely broke, but a little fragile minded....
The fragile minded and confusion may be being increased with the insecurity of the rider on this one as well. |
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Location: Arkansas | Thanks everyone...i am just trying to help a friend out, as she wants to do whats best for this mare. |
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Location: Arkansas | It's the Circle Y Just B Natural saddle |
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Location: North Dakota | moorehorses - 2014-09-18 4:34 PM
mruggles - 2014-09-18 4:17 PM
how old is this horse and how broke is she
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She's 7 and extremely broke, but a little fragile minded....
aka "hot mess" she needs to slooow down. Examine her feed, bring her brain back down to reality-NO RUNNING-anywhere! Kick her out for a few months and bring her back slow if she's been used a bunch for her 7 years, if not, get someone to cowboy on her for a few months, treat her for ulcers. She's on the verge of being a complete runaway and fooling anyone that gets on her-spoiled comes to mind...teach her that running barrels is the easiest work EVER. |
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Location: NE Texas | It looks to me like she wants to try to work, but the inconsistency of the rider and them balancing on her mouth the entire run are not only sending her mixed signals but probably making her mad. I know if any of mine were ridden like that, they wouldn't work very well either. I would encourage you to find someone who is a very good, quiet, solid jockey....someone who is capable of staying out of her way and touching her mouth only if needed and see what happens. I think she's just lacking consistency, is confused by all the signals she's getting every step she takes, and just needs someone quiet and consistent with their cues to help build her confidence.
If this mare is 7, she's likely not a finished horse, and if she's very broke at all, the constant pulling on her mouth and imbalance problems would exacerbate her doing something like this. On my horses, if you wiggle your pinky finger it means something to them and they will respond. If this mare has a nice handle on her, she's likely to be so confused just because of the contact with her mouth. She needs a quiet, confidence building rider....not a rider who's trying to build their confidence.
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Location: Arkansas | Herbie - 2014-09-18 4:44 PM
It looks to me like she wants to try to work, but the inconsistency of the rider and them balancing on her mouth the entire run are not only sending her mixed signals but probably making her mad. I know if any of mine were ridden like that, they wouldn't work very well either. I would encourage you to find someone who is a very good, quiet, solid jockey....someone who is capable of staying out of her way and touching her mouth only if needed and see what happens. I think she's just lacking consistency, is confused by all the signals she's getting every step she takes, and just needs someone quiet and consistent with their cues to help build her confidence.
If this mare is 7, she's likely not a finished horse, and if she's very broke at all, the constant pulling on her mouth and imbalance problems would exacerbate her doing something like this. On my horses, if you wiggle your pinky finger it means something to them and they will respond. If this mare has a nice handle on her, she's likely to be so confused just because of the contact with her mouth. She needs a quiet, confidence building rider....not a rider who's trying to build their confidence.Â
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A Somebody to Everybody
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | moorehorses - 2014-09-18 4:41 PM It's the Circle Y Just B Natural saddle
You may need to go to a treed saddle, in this saddle you bounce to much and thats really hard on a horse back. And they can feel every move that you make. I would have someone else ride her thats got quite hands and seat. |
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Location: Finally horseback again.... | Herbie - 2014-09-18 4:44 PM It looks to me like she wants to try to work, but the inconsistency of the rider and them balancing on her mouth the entire run are not only sending her mixed signals but probably making her mad. I know if any of mine were ridden like that, they wouldn't work very well either. I would encourage you to find someone who is a very good, quiet, solid jockey....someone who is capable of staying out of her way and touching her mouth only if needed and see what happens. I think she's just lacking consistency, is confused by all the signals she's getting every step she takes, and just needs someone quiet and consistent with their cues to help build her confidence.
If this mare is 7, she's likely not a finished horse, and if she's very broke at all, the constant pulling on her mouth and imbalance problems would exacerbate her doing something like this. On my horses, if you wiggle your pinky finger it means something to them and they will respond. If this mare has a nice handle on her, she's likely to be so confused just because of the contact with her mouth. She needs a quiet, confidence building rider....not a rider who's trying to build their confidence.
Excellent advice!!
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Location: The edge of no where | Herbie - 2014-09-18 4:44 PM It looks to me like she wants to try to work, but the inconsistency of the rider and them balancing on her mouth the entire run are not only sending her mixed signals but probably making her mad. I know if any of mine were ridden like that, they wouldn't work very well either. I would encourage you to find someone who is a very good, quiet, solid jockey....someone who is capable of staying out of her way and touching her mouth only if needed and see what happens. I think she's just lacking consistency, is confused by all the signals she's getting every step she takes, and just needs someone quiet and consistent with their cues to help build her confidence.
If this mare is 7, she's likely not a finished horse, and if she's very broke at all, the constant pulling on her mouth and imbalance problems would exacerbate her doing something like this. On my horses, if you wiggle your pinky finger it means something to them and they will respond. If this mare has a nice handle on her, she's likely to be so confused just because of the contact with her mouth. She needs a quiet, confidence building rider....not a rider who's trying to build their confidence.
I rather like the horse.....would love to see a good jockey on it and see what happens.
The current rider really needs lots of work on balance and hands before trying to run anything. I'd try to find someone really tough to ride with a few times a week to work on my seat. Lot of filming and studying the films before making more of a mess of what seems to be a pretty nice horse.
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| She looks sore in the rear, she does not change leads behind the first like she should and when she ismyanking on her at the second the strides of rear legs look wierd, and same thing at third. The video was not very good so it is really hard to tell. she is 7 prime age for hocks, stifles, suspensories. |
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| Not to be rude or anything but why would you ask what you are doing wrong then post a video of a friend running your horse? You have gotten a lot of excellent advice for your horse but if you really want to help the mare you might want to post a video of your riding so people can tell you if some of the issues are from your style of riding. |
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Location: At the race track with Ah Dee Ohs | Herbie - 2014-09-18 4:44 PM It looks to me like she wants to try to work, but the inconsistency of the rider and them balancing on her mouth the entire run are not only sending her mixed signals but probably making her mad. I know if any of mine were ridden like that, they wouldn't work very well either. I would encourage you to find someone who is a very good, quiet, solid jockey....someone who is capable of staying out of her way and touching her mouth only if needed and see what happens. I think she's just lacking consistency, is confused by all the signals she's getting every step she takes, and just needs someone quiet and consistent with their cues to help build her confidence.
If this mare is 7, she's likely not a finished horse, and if she's very broke at all, the constant pulling on her mouth and imbalance problems would exacerbate her doing something like this. On my horses, if you wiggle your pinky finger it means something to them and they will respond. If this mare has a nice handle on her, she's likely to be so confused just because of the contact with her mouth. She needs a quiet, confidence building rider....not a rider who's trying to build their confidence.
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Location: Arkansas | cavlier - 2014-09-18 6:47 PM
Not to be rude or anything but why would you ask what you are doing wrong then post a video of a friend running your horse? You have gotten a lot of excellent advice for your horse but if you really want to help the mare you might want to post a video of your riding so people can tell you if some of the issues are from your style of riding.
I never said I own this horse. I said I am trying to help a friend & I said I have made some runs on her, none of which were videoed. Thanks. |
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| 7 is the prime age for sore hocks to start kicking up. This can happen over just a few months. I would get her in to a good lameness vet, she's not holding her leads in the back and just seems to be stabbing her legs forward each step. After a full lameness exam (no country cow vets please), work with a tiny o-ring with a martingale, a saddle that really fits, and long, slow casual work gathering her back into herself would probably really help. Ed Wright drills would be very beneficial for horse and rider.
Your second barrel issues are being caused by your first barrel. Stop trying to leave behind the barrel, finish the turn. |
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| moorehorses - 2014-09-18 4:39 PM
Thanks everyone...i am just trying to help a friend out, as she wants to do whats best for this mare.
This is going to sound really harsh. Your friend needs to develop balance and strength in her riding away from a barrel pattern. |
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Location: Red Raiderland | bennie1 - 2014-09-18 9:16 PM moorehorses - 2014-09-18 4:39 PM Thanks everyone...i am just trying to help a friend out, as she wants to do whats best for this mare. This is going to sound really harsh. Your friend needs to develop balance and strength in her riding away from a barrel pattern.
Edited by Kaycee 2014-09-18 9:38 PM
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