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| NJJ - 2014-09-28 10:43 AM rodeomom3 - 2014-09-28 10:14 AM NJJ - 2014-09-28 9:41 AM Even though we are continually told that things are MUCH better in Texas……shame on you for “dissing” the barrel racers from the “North”. You “might” have seen videos of such things but it is NOT the norm. Yes, there are places that sell 20 minute time slots; yes, there are places where there is an open arena BEFORE the exhibitions and yes, we do have small pens just because we don't live in boondock junctions. I have NEVER made an exhibition run with other people IN the arena….so please, do the “northerners” a favor and don’t make “blanket assumptions”. Slow down there grumpy bear, I was not dissing the "northerns" at all, I was more poking fun of us southerners and how cushy we have it and how we have come to expect it to be that way. No where did I state it was being done wrong up north or not done as well as we do it or say we do it the right way or a safer way. Relax and get happy, you might take things differently!
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Location: Displaced Iowegian | rodeomom3 - 2014-09-28 8:23 AM We Texas girls do have it good, I don't think we would survive up north. I have noticed in the run videos from up north, the tiny pens, closed gates, dry dirt, people standing behind the barrels. We are spoiled, someone is sure to pitch a fit down here if any of the above happend at one of our jackpots, lol. We don't go to any tiny pens or ones that require a closed gate. Our 60 second exhibitions mean just that, for 60 seconds we control the arena. We don't have timed riding slots in the arena for several horses at once, most all of our pens have a separate warm up area and our weather allows for year round use. I was at a local jackpot, took 4 horses, plan for one was to make a run during exhbition just like a regular run since I was not entering him. There was bad weather so they were letting people warm up behind the 3rd and some people were circling the 3rd. When my turn came up I asked the gate worker if everyone could just stand in the corner for a minute, didn't want a wreck and also was trying to mimic a regular run. He was from up north and boy howdy, he called me a jackpot queen, made quite a few faces, mumbled and grumbled about being down south at which my friends jumped in and proceeded to give him a mouth full, that we paid for 60 seconds, it is our 60 seconds to use as we wish. That is the way we do it down here.
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Location: Southeast Louisiana | NJJ - 2014-09-28 10:43 AM
rodeomom3 - 2014-09-28 10:14 AM NJJ - 2014-09-28 9:41 AM Even though we are continually told that things are MUCH better in Texas……shame on you for “dissing” the barrel racers from the “North”. You “might” have seen videos of such things but it is NOT the norm. Yes, there are places that sell 20 minute time slots; yes, there are places where there is an open arena BEFORE the exhibitions and yes, we do have small pens just because we don't live in boondock junctions. I have NEVER made an exhibition run with other people IN the arena….so please, do the “northerners” a favor and don’t make “blanket assumptions”. Slow down there grumpy bear, I was not dissing the "northerns" at all, I was more poking fun of us southerners and how cushy we have it and how we have come to expect it to be that way. No where did I state it was being done wrong up north or not done as well as we do it or say we do it the right way or a safer way.  Relax and get happy, you might take things differently!
As I read that, I couldn't help but envision Hitler banging his fists on the table, spitting mad, with his hair flailing around. |
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Location: Montana | The jackpots I attend, the TOs are run like a regular run...no one in the arena except the person who has that TO slot...however it is enter the arena at will so, you kind of just watch and wait your turn. But the arena is open before the TOs and after the race (and if you are super nice, you can get a TO or two after the race if need be). I just thought it was a funny video because I could totally see barrel racers (including myself on occasion) causing a fuss like that, LOL. |
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| mtcanchazer - 2014-09-28 12:15 PM The jackpots I attend, the TOs are run like a regular run...no one in the arena except the person who has that TO slot...however it is enter the arena at will so, you kind of just watch and wait your turn. But the arena is open before the TOs and after the race (and if you are super nice, you can get a TO or two after the race if need be). I just thought it was a funny video because I could totally see barrel racers (including myself on occasion) causing a fuss like that, LOL.
We don't ever have open arena riding time before or after a race. That is nice you can get in the pen. Exhibitions before the race are typically not on the stakes, the thought process is to not dig the ground up before the race. We do have after show exhibitions and those are on the stakes. |
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| Too many associations and jackpots to classify I how theyr ran region or state. I've seen it all. Buyin a time slot wouldn't work becuse there are a few trainers that show up with 6 horses, no one else would get to go at the smaller races. Most are booked anyway well in advance. It's funny anyway. I would like exhibitions on the stakes. |
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Location: Montana | rodeomom3 - 2014-09-28 11:28 AM mtcanchazer - 2014-09-28 12:15 PM The jackpots I attend, the TOs are run like a regular run...no one in the arena except the person who has that TO slot...however it is enter the arena at will so, you kind of just watch and wait your turn. But the arena is open before the TOs and after the race (and if you are super nice, you can get a TO or two after the race if need be). I just thought it was a funny video because I could totally see barrel racers (including myself on occasion) causing a fuss like that, LOL. We don't ever have open arena riding time before or after a race. That is nice you can get in the pen. Exhibitions before the race are typically not on the stakes, the thought process is to not dig the ground up before the race. We do have after show exhibitions and those are on the stakes.
Where I typcially go, we have so few runners (the largest amount I remember this some was 35-36 runners...including people who brough 2-4 horses a piece) I think everything is on the stakes.
I wasn't picking on you, just explaining what they did where I attend most. One place a couple of years ago they did TOs after the race only, and I wasn't a fan of that because I was still training my mare and wanted at least 1 TO before running. |
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| I live in CA. I took some years off and when I came back and did my first time only again, I was like, "Hey, they forgot to give me my time.??" LOL!! What is the point of a TIME only without a TIME? It's not earth shattering to not have it. Now I just gauge progress on TO's without being timed like I do losing weight without a scale.
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| Up here in Indiana, I would throw an absolute fit if anyone was in the arena during my exhibition. Talk about a distraction! I pay for my run, and no one is allowed anywhere near that pattern while I'm doing it. That is how just about everyone is here, except a few horses that get led in and out with another horse, it waits by the gate at one race. (There is no warm up pen for the indoor arena, you run in from the parking lot so it is a closed gate at the end (so no loose horses or hit cars), but my mare loves that arena!) |
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Location: EDGE OF INSANITY | We have one association here (i wont name names) that sells time slots, ie-you buy your exhibition run to be between 10:00-10:30. What really piffs me off is the most of the time, even if you get there waaayyyy before it starts, "friends" have signed other people up (who aren't even there yet) and all of the the time slots are full |
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Location: California | horsepoor1 - 2014-09-29 2:46 PM We have one association here (i wont name names) that sells time slots, ie-you buy your exhibition run to be between 10:00-10:30. What really piffs me off is the most of the time, even if you get there waaayyyy before it starts, "friends" have signed other people up (who aren't even there yet) and all of the the time slots are full
Oh I didn't think about this with selling time slots. That would really suck.
I will say as far as having people in the arena during exhibitions, at the races I've been too, where this happens they are behind the wings, and not near your pattern. I actually appreciate this as I have been seasoning my mare this year, and I can buy a time only and just settle her behind the wings. That has been a great help for me just to let her sit in there while others are working their horses. |
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| mtcanchazer - 2014-09-28 12:49 PM rodeomom3 - 2014-09-28 11:28 AM mtcanchazer - 2014-09-28 12:15 PM The jackpots I attend, the TOs are run like a regular run...no one in the arena except the person who has that TO slot...however it is enter the arena at will so, you kind of just watch and wait your turn. But the arena is open before the TOs and after the race (and if you are super nice, you can get a TO or two after the race if need be). I just thought it was a funny video because I could totally see barrel racers (including myself on occasion) causing a fuss like that, LOL. We don't ever have open arena riding time before or after a race. That is nice you can get in the pen. Exhibitions before the race are typically not on the stakes, the thought process is to not dig the ground up before the race. We do have after show exhibitions and those are on the stakes.
I wasn't picking on you, just explaining what they did where I attend most. One place a couple of years ago they did TOs after the race only, and I wasn't a fan of that because I was still training my mare and wanted at least 1 TO before running.
I get it, at bigger races they will have them on the stakes which makes more sense to me anyway. We usually have around 120 at a local jackpot. Exhibitions only after a race makes no sense, a lot of horses need them before they make their run. |
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Location: California | Time for me to chime in. I made the video and it was just to be a funny video depicting the way California time onlys have evolved since I first started barrel racing many years ago. The time only, hence the name, was invented to allow a rider to make a practice run before the race and to get a time. The barrels were always on the markers allowing you to see how your horse was progressing. Many were there with their futurity colts (that were not yet allowed to run in the real race due to age) who needed to compare their times to see how well their horses training was going. Today, it is difficult to accomplish since the barrels are not on the markers, they don't always give you a time, their are multiple horses allowed in the arena, and there are riders near and in the alleyway so if you wanted to school your gate problem horse, it is next to impossible. I live in California, and I do believe that our fututity horses have a disadvantage competing with other horses because of the way time onlys are run today. Also, if you pay for one minute, you should get one minute, no matter how you slice it. If you want to walk in, get off, uncinch, and just stand there for 60 seconds, you should be allowed to. I don't understand how someone can be allowed to use their one minute walking the pattern, trotting the pattern, go around and around the barrels and that is ok. But if I run the pattern and I am back in 18 seconds, why can't I go to the pattern again to use up my remaining 42 seconds? As far as the mile long lines, it is also about impossible to properly warm your horse up since you have to stand in line. It is also difficult to time only more than one horse for the same reason. I came up with an idea that I thought would work...it would eliminate the lines, allow you to TO multiple horses and adequately warm up. The gate person would have a clip board. This is similar to the protocol designed at restaurants. You ride up, give her your name, and it is put on the list. You are told how many people are in front of you and that lets you know how much time there is before your Time Only. For example, if there are 10 people ahead of you, you can figure you have at least 10 minutes. You can now warm up your horse keeping an eye on the gate and listening for your name to be called. Can you imagine people standing in a long line at the restaurant waiting for a table...you can't even go to the restroom or you would lose your place. I also feel that a person should only be allowed 2 time onlys at a time and if they want more, they need to sign up again. |
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| I'm from way up north and I don't think you southerners really understand the deal. Have you ever tried to exhibition up here? You HAVE to be in the arena while the others are going, if you stand outside you run the risk of a serous goring by one of the buffalo that still roam free. Add that to the fact only the big cities have power you just really have to hurry everyone through so you can get home before dark. This isn't just so you can see but also because it gets SO COLD up here 10 months a year that you can freeze to death after sun sets.
Our indoor pens are indeed tiny. You try building one of those things out of logs you cut yourself, thats all we have up here. As far as time onlies we'd probably do more but the gal running the little glass deal with sand in it gets tired of flipping it over everytime a new rider comes in the arena. Can't blame her, she usually also has to scoop all the snow out of the barrel path before the first runner can go.... |
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Location: Displaced Iowegian | Frenchie - 2014-09-28 6:27 PM I'm from way up north and I don't think you southerners really understand the deal. Have you ever tried to exhibition up here? You HAVE to be in the arena while the others are going, if you stand outside you run the risk of a serous goring by one of the buffalo that still roam free. Add that to the fact only the big cities have power you just really have to hurry everyone through so you can get home before dark. This isn't just so you can see but also because it gets SO COLD up here 10 months a year that you can freeze to death after sun sets.
Our indoor pens are indeed tiny. You try building one of those things out of logs you cut yourself, thats all we have up here. As far as time onlies we'd probably do more but the gal running the little glass deal with sand in it gets tired of flipping it over everytime a new rider comes in the arena. Can't blame her, she usually also has to scoop all the snow out of the barrel path before the first runner can go....
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Its serious up here. Hard enough to exhibition colts at all but try doing it with pack of coyotes chasing the barrel setters across the pen..... |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | Frenchie - 2014-09-28 6:27 PM I'm from way up north and I don't think you southerners really understand the deal. Have you ever tried to exhibition up here? You HAVE to be in the arena while the others are going, if you stand outside you run the risk of a serous goring by one of the buffalo that still roam free. Add that to the fact only the big cities have power you just really have to hurry everyone through so you can get home before dark. This isn't just so you can see but also because it gets SO COLD up here 10 months a year that you can freeze to death after sun sets.
Our indoor pens are indeed tiny. You try building one of those things out of logs you cut yourself, thats all we have up here. As far as time onlies we'd probably do more but the gal running the little glass deal with sand in it gets tired of flipping it over everytime a new rider comes in the arena. Can't blame her, she usually also has to scoop all the snow out of the barrel path before the first runner can go....
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