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NJJ
Reg. Jul 2006
Posted 2014-10-11 10:02 PM
Subject: RE: RFDTV The American Question


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sodapop - 2014-10-11 9:18 PM
NJJ - 2014-10-11 9:12 PM
sodapop - 2014-10-11 9:06 PM
rodeomom3 - 2014-10-11 8:56 PM
sodapop - 2014-10-11 8:52 PM
NJJ - 2014-10-11 3:40 PM
sodapop - 2014-10-11 1:25 PM
Nevertooold - 2014-10-11 1:15 PM Here's another scenario...Andrea Cline was the BBR Champion and became qualified to the American but could only run for the $100,000. thru that qualification so she went and qualified through a qualifier so she could run for the million. Lots of funky rules..LOL 
I didn't think the BBR Champion got in as an exemption if that is what you mean.  It's only NFR top 10 and any invited exemption then the the tops from the qualifiers who go through the American qualifier finals...... correct? 



Did a BBR Champion get an exemption last year?


 
Yes, last year it was the Top 10 (NFR), the BBR Champion, an "exemption" (which will be Charmayne James again this year) and the Top 10 qualifiers.  
 Who was the BBR champion? Was it Mark?
 BBR Champion:  Andrea Cline. BBR is Better Barrel  Races
 Yes I know what the BBR means. I just don't keep up with who wins it what year and when. I still think of the BBR Finals being in January each year, but I know it was moved to spring several years ago.. I thought it was in April now which would have been held after The American in March. So the BBR champion exemption would have been the BBR champion from the previous year. Unless the BBR Finals are held before The American or it is decided in another way.
2014 BBR Champion was Jackie Ganter wasn't it?  
 If so, that would make her the BBR World Champion exemption, but she is also trying to make it through the qualifiers. She has qualified for the semi-finals already. If she makes it through the qualifiers, then they would have to move on down the list for their BBR exemption. At this rate, no one will want to be an exemption. LOL

 No............as long as it is not the same horse that won her the championship.....she can qualify another run on another horse.

R10) The BBR World Champion, the College National Finals Champion and the High School National Finals Champion may compete in a qualification race in an attempt secure a 2nd Semi-Finals Qualification. In doing so they may not compete at the Qualification race on the same horse that carried them to their association championship title.

 
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sodapop
Reg. Feb 2005
Posted 2014-10-11 10:24 PM
Subject: RE: RFDTV The American Question


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NJJ - 2014-10-11 10:02 PM
sodapop - 2014-10-11 9:18 PM
NJJ - 2014-10-11 9:12 PM
sodapop - 2014-10-11 9:06 PM
rodeomom3 - 2014-10-11 8:56 PM
sodapop - 2014-10-11 8:52 PM
NJJ - 2014-10-11 3:40 PM
sodapop - 2014-10-11 1:25 PM
Nevertooold - 2014-10-11 1:15 PM Here's another scenario...Andrea Cline was the BBR Champion and became qualified to the American but could only run for the $100,000. thru that qualification so she went and qualified through a qualifier so she could run for the million. Lots of funky rules..LOL 
I didn't think the BBR Champion got in as an exemption if that is what you mean.  It's only NFR top 10 and any invited exemption then the the tops from the qualifiers who go through the American qualifier finals...... correct? 



Did a BBR Champion get an exemption last year?


 
Yes, last year it was the Top 10 (NFR), the BBR Champion, an "exemption" (which will be Charmayne James again this year) and the Top 10 qualifiers.  
 Who was the BBR champion? Was it Mark?
 BBR Champion:  Andrea Cline. BBR is Better Barrel  Races
 Yes I know what the BBR means. I just don't keep up with who wins it what year and when. I still think of the BBR Finals being in January each year, but I know it was moved to spring several years ago.. I thought it was in April now which would have been held after The American in March. So the BBR champion exemption would have been the BBR champion from the previous year. Unless the BBR Finals are held before The American or it is decided in another way.
2014 BBR Champion was Jackie Ganter wasn't it?  
 If so, that would make her the BBR World Champion exemption, but she is also trying to make it through the qualifiers. She has qualified for the semi-finals already. If she makes it through the qualifiers, then they would have to move on down the list for their BBR exemption. At this rate, no one will want to be an exemption. LOL
 No............as long as it is not the same horse that won her the championship.....she can qualify another run on another horse.



R10) The BBR World Champion, the College National Finals Champion and the High School National Finals Champion may compete in a qualification race in an attempt secure a 2nd Semi-Finals Qualification. In doing so they may not compete at the Qualification race on the same horse that carried them to their association championship title.



 

Well there ya go!  Mystery solved. 
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CrossCreek
Reg. Mar 2007
Posted 2014-10-11 11:05 PM
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ok, so the NHSRA or collegiate champion cannot run on the same horse that they won their championship on??? What kind of a stupid rule is THAT?? 
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grinandbareit
Reg. Jan 2007
Posted 2014-10-11 11:30 PM
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It is my understanding that the top 10 NFR qualifiers will not qualify for the 1 million, regardless of whether or not they go to the qualifiers. Anyone know where the rule is?

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turnum
Reg. Jul 2006
Posted 2014-10-12 7:36 AM
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If you go to the results on the qualifiers for the American in Tie-Down on the Ultimate Calf Roping site Tuff's name is not on there they went down to the 11th place guy Kyle Dutton. I'll try to post it I hope it works.
 
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Top 10 Average Winners
AMERICAN Qualifiers
1.Timber Moore
2.Trent Creager
3.Dillon Holder
4.Cody McCartney
5.Cole Wilson
6.CR Bradley
7.Jeremy Kempker
8.Rob Pierce
9.Trenton Johnson
10.Kyle Dutton
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sodapop
Reg. Feb 2005
Posted 2014-10-12 8:17 AM
Subject: RE: RFDTV The American Question


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turnum - 2014-10-12 7:36 AM

If you go to the results on the qualifiers for the American in Tie-Down on the Ultimate Calf Roping site Tuff's name is not on there they went down to the 11th place guy Kyle Dutton. I'll try to post it I hope it works.
 
Columbus, OH
October 8
, 2014
Top 10 Average Winners
AMERICAN Qualifiers
1.Timber Moore
2.Trent Creager
3.Dillon Holder
4.Cody McCartney
5.Cole Wilson
6.CR Bradley
7.Jeremy Kempker
8.Rob Pierce
9.Trenton Johnson
10.Kyle Dutton

 That's interesting. On Tuf's facebook fan page he posts about winning The American Qualifier on a horse trained by C.R. Bradley.
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brlracerchick
Reg. Jun 2010
Posted 2014-10-12 8:30 AM
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I know they said at the American yesterday that Samantha Flannery had already won a Qualifier so she was just running for $$ 
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SKM
Reg. Dec 2003
Posted 2014-10-12 9:02 AM
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CrossCreek - 2014-10-11 10:05 PM

ok, so the NHSRA or collegiate champion cannot run on the same horse that they won their championship on??? What kind of a stupid rule is THAT?? 

 No. It's saying that they can't enter a qualifier on that horse because it's already in. They would have to run a different horse if they entered a qualifier.
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CYA Ranch
Reg. Feb 2008
Posted 2014-10-12 9:44 AM
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brlracerchick - 2014-10-12 8:30 AM I know they said at the American yesterday that Samantha Flannery had already won a Qualifier so she was just running for $$ 

2 qualifiers is the limit then?  She won 2 in Verndale.  She's got nice horses.
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Reg. Dec 2007
Posted 2014-10-12 10:24 AM
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sodapop - 2014-10-11 8:52 PM
NJJ - 2014-10-11 3:40 PM
sodapop - 2014-10-11 1:25 PM
Nevertooold - 2014-10-11 1:15 PM Here's another scenario...Andrea Cline was the BBR Champion and became qualified to the American but could only run for the $100,000. thru that qualification so she went and qualified through a qualifier so she could run for the million. Lots of funky rules..LOL 
I didn't think the BBR Champion got in as an exemption if that is what you mean.  It's only NFR top 10 and any invited exemption then the the tops from the qualifiers who go through the American qualifier finals...... correct? 

Did a BBR Champion get an exemption last year?

 
Yes, last year it was the Top 10 (NFR), the BBR Champion, an "exemption" (which will be Charmayne James again this year) and the Top 10 qualifiers.  
 Who was the BBR champion? Was it Mark?
 BBR Champion:  Andrea Cline. BBR is Better Barrel  Races
 Yes I know what the BBR means. I just don't keep up with who wins it what year and when. I still think of the BBR Finals being in January each year, but I know it was moved to spring several years ago.. I thought it was in April now which would have been held after The American in March. So the BBR champion exemption would have been the BBR champion from the previous year. Unless the BBR Finals are held before The American or it is decided in another way.
I am the one with the slap to the forehead  (or back of the head). When I saw a male name "Mark" I thought no , it is barrels it can't be a guy- Duh, of course it can be a guy it is BBR- not WPRA- Sorry

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Reg. Mar 2005
Posted 2014-10-12 10:28 AM
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Southtxponygirl - 2014-10-10 3:22 PM I am so confused, lol... 

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sodapop
Reg. Feb 2005
Posted 2014-10-12 10:30 AM
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I'm excited to watch it all unfold again next year.  Such an exciting rodeo concept.  I am just glad I don't have to keep up with all the rules and regulations. LOL  I'm sure each year the rules will be changed according to the requests from contestants, fans, etc. to promote its growth and continued popularity as well as obtaining more sponsors.

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Reg. Nov 2006
Posted 2014-10-12 10:39 AM
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I am trying to keep up with all the rules that you guys are talking about, and now I'm really REALLY confused, so instead of trying to understand, I think I will just stick to watching the barrel runs. LOL My forehead cant take this anymore,,, 
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Reg. Nov 2006
Posted 2014-10-12 10:40 AM
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Southtxponygirl - 2014-10-10 3:22 PM I am so confused, lol... 
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NJJ
Reg. Jul 2006
Posted 2014-10-12 11:19 AM
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Southtxponygirl - 2014-10-12 10:39 AM I am trying to keep up with all the rules that you guys are talking about, and now I'm really REALLY confused, so instead of trying to understand, I think I will just stick to watching the barrel runs. LOL My forehead cant take this anymore,,, 

 Well....duh.......quit slapping yourself in the head.....LOL 
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Posted 2014-10-12 11:32 AM
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I don't know about you all but I wouldn't care if I could run for the million, 100,000 or just $1. I would be thrilled to just get to go run there!
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Reg. Nov 2006
Posted 2014-10-12 11:54 AM
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NJJ - 2014-10-12 11:19 AM
Southtxponygirl - 2014-10-12 10:39 AM I am trying to keep up with all the rules that you guys are talking about, and now I'm really REALLY confused, so instead of trying to understand, I think I will just stick to watching the barrel runs. LOL My forehead cant take this anymore,,, 
 Well....duh.......quit slapping yourself in the head.....LOL 

I know right!!!!!  I just felt like giving me a slap every once in a while, lol....
I'm trying to keep up with all this, Really I am but man this is just really confusing stuff here.   
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brlracerchick
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Posted 2014-10-12 5:38 PM
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brlracerchick - 2014-10-12 8:30 AM I know they said at the American yesterday that Samantha Flannery had already won a Qualifier so she was just running for $$ 
2 qualifiers is the limit then?  She won 2 in Verndale.  She's got nice horses.

Maybe it was the same horse that she had already won one on? I have no idea, that is just what the FB results said (that she was only running for $$
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Reg. Nov 2003
Posted 2014-10-12 7:54 PM
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CJE - 2014-10-12 8:28 AM

Southtxponygirl - 2014-10-10 3:22 PM I am so confused, lol... 

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so am I. Serioulsy don't like the idea of the whole thing anyway.
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Reg. Dec 2006
Posted 2014-10-12 10:19 PM
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I would assume that Tuf and Timber entered the qualifier event because being qualified for the NFR does not mean they will end up top ten after the NFR is over.

As example: Last year Fallon Taylor finished 11th in WPRA standings after the NFR was over. By that time there was only one qualifier event left. She competed there and also finished 11th so she didn't get to go to the semi-finals. So the typical NFR people are still running at the qualifier events in case they don't finish in the top ten for year end standings and get into The American. If they are top ten after the NFR, then they compete at the NFR in their NFR spot and there is no reason for them to have to run at the semi finals to try to get in. But if they ar 11th-15th when the NFR is over, they still have to get to the American via the semi-finals and there are not a lot of qualifier events left when the NFR is over.

The BBR world champion does not get an exemption to the American. They get a spot in the semifinals. Jackie Ganter is the 2014 BBR WOrld Champ so she automatically gets a spot at the semifinals without competing in a qualifier. Lindsey McLeod also earned her spot to the semifinals by winning the NHSRA barrel racing championship. This does not mean either girl gets a spot at The American. It means they get a spot in the semi-finals without having to be top ten at a qualifer event.
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