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Location: SE Louisiana | Barnmom - 2014-10-12 11:28 AM
When the troops come home, will they be quarantined for 21 days or just sent home to thier families? Last I heard it was closer to 4000, that is a lot of people exposed if they just get to go home. We all know that a soldiers paycheck won't cover 21 days in a hotel if they want to self quarantine to protect thier loved ones.
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When it comes to that, there are plenty of closed military bases with empty barracks that could be used for a 21 day quarantine and observation.. and yes, I heard 4000 as well.. |
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Location: Opelousas, LA | komet. - 2014-10-12 11:32 AM Barnmom - 2014-10-12 11:28 AM When the troops come home, will they be quarantined for 21 days or just sent home to thier families? Last I heard it was closer to 4000, that is a lot of people exposed if they just get to go home. We all know that a soldiers paycheck won't cover 21 days in a hotel if they want to self quarantine to protect thier loved ones.
When it comes to that, there are plenty of closed military bases with empty barracks that could be used for a 21 day quarantine and observation.. and yes, I heard 4000 as well..
Will they be quarantined? Common sense says yes, but....
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Location: Golden Gulf Coast of Texas | On the news they said this nurse attended to the patient on his second visit and she was fully protected. So how did she get it? |
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| mreklaw - 2014-10-12 11:40 AM On the news they said this nurse attended to the patient on his second visit and she was fully protected. So how did she get it?
Good question. In an interview on Meet the Press this morning a rep from I think the CDC would not reveal if the health care worker was a man or a woman.
In another article I read they weren't sure if the worker was exposed to the ebola patient on his first or second visit. I guess from the report you heard they have determined it was the second visit. |
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Location: SE Louisiana | mreklaw - 2014-10-12 11:40 AM
On the news they said this nurse attended to the patient on his second visit and she was fully protected. So how did she get it?
Well... unlike all the movies you see, These workers don't go through a booth to get sprayed down before they remove the HazMat suit... The most likely thing is she came into contact with something on the suit then it contacted an open sore or an eye before she washed her hands. |
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Location: In the Hills of Texas | The Enterovirus D68 is linked to people from Central America and the fool in Washington has sent the illegals from these countries all over the United States.  |
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when you look at hospitals. they are dirty. corners are not clean. they dont put you in clean bedding after surgery and all of your hair they shaved prior to surgery you wake up in. Whe they pull the catheter. they dont contain the urine. just unsanitary.
No mats like Canada has at the airports that clean your shoes. Heck that would be so simple to have those mats everywhere at hospitals. You see doctors and nurseswalking all over the hospital in those paper covers from surgery even eating in them. Anyways I dont have to be a virologist or whatever , I do know we all need to boost our immune systems. stop eating junk food. And practice clean bathroom techniques. It is no news flash our government is broken. We the people need to defend Unless we the people take care of ourselves instead of the expecting the government to do it for us, it is only going to get worse. |
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | Seriously, what needs to be done is something like this. Issue a proclamation that all people originating from Africa have a 2 week grace period to get into the US, and once they do, they need to be quarantined for 3 weeks. After that, no individuals originating from the African continent be allowed into a US city. As far as I can tell, at this point, there isn't a test that is proven to be reliable and sensitive in screening for Ebola. They are working on it, like they are working on several different medicines, a vaccine, and possibly antiserum. Until a reliable screening test has been developed, this would be the best way of protecting the US against Ebola. That is assuming it isn't too late. Once a reliable screening test is available, then I would think having that as a mandatory requirement for getting into the US (for anyone originating from Africa) would probably be all that's needed. That will probably take some time. Of course, if cases start popping up in Mexico, then we have a whole new set of problems to deal with. You don't have to have a lot of imagination to envision how this disease could lead to serious or even catastrophic economic problems. |
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Location: In the Hills of Texas | SG. - 2014-10-12 12:30 PM when you look at hospitals. they are dirty. corners are not clean. they dont put you in clean bedding after surgery and all of your hair they shaved prior to surgery you wake up in. Whe they pull the catheter. they dont contain the urine. just unsanitary.
No mats like Canada has at the airports that clean your shoes. Heck that would be so simple to have those mats everywhere at hospitals. You see doctors and nurseswalking all over the hospital in those paper covers from surgery even eating in them. Anyways I dont have to be a virologist or whatever , I do know we all need to boost our immune systems. stop eating junk food. And practice clean bathroom techniques. It is no news flash our government is broken. We the people need to defend Unless we the people take care of ourselves instead of the expecting the government to do it for us, it is only going to get worse.
Another thing is we see so many people come into a restaurant wearing their surgical scrubs. My husband and I got up and walked out of a restaurant when a group of vets and vet techs came in and their clothes weren't clean. Our vet back home had complete coveralls that he would put on plus rubber boots when he came to a barn. When he was done he scrubbed his boots down and took his coverall off and put it in a garbage can. |
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Location: wherever my daughter's running | komet. - 2014-10-12 10:36 AM cruise - 2014-10-12 9:01 AM NJJ - 2014-10-12 9:38 AM Itsme - 2014-10-12 8:30 AM I say we secure the texas borders and give it back to mexico... Huh????? The disease didn't originate or "travel" to the U.S. from Mexico.......Africa !!!! But ....... according this article there is a peooibility of it coming into this country from our southern boarder. http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/oct/9/us-commander-warns-e... Our only hope there is that can't fly out if they have a temperature and it's a long slow trip across land to the border from Central America and that is after they take time to make arrangements to be taken north.. Once they start coming down sick they won't be able to travel across land. This is a very debilitating sickness. Also remember that just because they come from a hot zone does not mean they are sick or that they carry it.
The article says anyone can ride the network and I believe that. The Marine that was in Costa Rico spoke an embassy person who had encountered a handful of people from Liberia that were going to cross our boarders. If the incubation period is 21days would it not be feasible for them to he able to get here through our boarders? Then develop the fever and be to the point of spreading Ebola? I do understand thAt just because they come from a hot spot does not mean. they have it. I also never implied it originated in Mexico. Just sharing an article that talks about the possibility. |
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Location: SE Louisiana | cruise - 2014-10-12 1:31 PM
komet. - 2014-10-12 10:36 AM cruise - 2014-10-12 9:01 AM NJJ - 2014-10-12 9:38 AM Itsme - 2014-10-12 8:30 AM I say we secure the texas borders and give it back to mexico... Â Huh????? The disease didn't originate or "travel" to the U.S. from Mexico.......Africa !!!! But ....... according this article there is a peooibility of it coming into this country from our southern boarder. http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/oct/9/us-commander-warns-e... Our only hope there is that can't fly out if they have a temperature and it's a long slow trip across land to the border from Central America and that is after they take time to make arrangements to be taken north.. Once they start coming down sick they won't be able to travel across land. This is a very debilitating sickness. Also remember that just because they come from a hot zone does not mean they are sick or that they carry it.
Yes.. It Could happen, The incubation period, that is, the time interval from infection with the virus to onset of symptoms is 2 to 21 days. Never say never .. but the average is quite a bit less than 21 days. |
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Location: wherever my daughter's running | Thank you Komet. It may be a little far reaching for it to come across our Southern boarders, but it is possible. Wish the decision to addreess our boarder issues had not been put on hold till after the elections. The next few weeks should give us a better feel for Ebola here in the US. |
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Location: SE Louisiana | cruise - 2014-10-12 2:03 PM
 Thank you Komet. It may be a little far reaching for it to come across our Southern boarders, but it is possible. Wish the decision to addreess our boarder issues had not been put on hold till after the elections. The next few weeks should give us a better feel for Ebola here in the US. Â
Quite right about the next few weeks... This nurse has been in close contact with many patients in the hospital since she became infected.... We better start praying now.. |
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Location: SE Louisiana | CDC confirms new case..
http://www.cnn.com/2014/10/12/health/ebola/index.html?hpt=hp_t1 |
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Location: wherever my daughter's running | I wonder what, if any, is the difference in the way the people who have flown on the three flights to bring Ebola patients here and the way the hospital staff are using protective gear and handling the patient. I saw the explanation of how the flight was set up with the isolation chamber. Very interesting. |
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Location: SE Louisiana | ....and another one...
http://www.cnn.com/2014/10/15/health/texas-ebola-outbreak/index.htm... |
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Prayers needed for the US. Now, we all need to get after our authorties to find a test for quick diagnosis. |
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Location: wherever my daughter's running | Prayers for these two health care workers. It was stated on CNN this morning by a Dr. that has delt with Ebola for years that there is a blood test that can detect Ebola before the fever presents. WHY is this not being done? According to what the CDC is saying the body fluids must enter the body throught an open place on the skin or mucus membrane. This must be the way these two contracted it. I really wish someone would follow up on this to see if that is indeed the case. The healthcare workers caring for Duncan were told to wrap tape around their exposed necks. There have to be hazmat suits somewhere close - the people that are cleaning up have them - why can't they get them to the people directly caring for the patients. Why not spray them down with bleach before they remove their gear. The CDC has made huge mistakes. Now they are reporting that 13,000 people from West Africa have visas to enter this country over the next several weeks. For gosh sake someone step up to the plate and take charge and cancel these visas. |
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Location: SE Louisiana | cruise - 2014-10-15 5:47 AM
 Prayers for these two health care workers. It was stated on CNN this morning by a Dr. that has delt with Ebola for years that there is a blood test that can detect Ebola before the fever presents. WHY is this not being done?  According to what the CDC is saying the body fluids must enter the body through an open place on the skin or mucus membrane. This must be the way these two contracted it. I really wish someone would follow up on this to see if that is indeed the case. The healthcare workers caring for Duncan were told to wrap tape around their exposed necks. There have to be hazmat suits somewhere close - the people that are cleaning up have them - why can't they get them to the people directly caring for the patients. Why not spray them down with bleach before they remove their gear. The CDC has made huge mistakes. Now they are reporting that 13,000 people from West Africa have visas to enter this country over the next several weeks. For gosh sake someone step up to the plate and take charge and cancel these visas.Â
I agree to the point the borders of these countries need to be closed. With 1000 new cases a week, I think they have lost control of this thing in Africa and containment is no longer possible. The early test has been around for a long time. I heard about it years ago. I understand it detects antibodies so a person needs to have had it long enough to have started creating antibodies and before they start to show symptoms. I believe it is an instant test of blood that has been centrifuged but I'm not sure about the details. Treating patients in a hazmat suit is difficult. It's a bulky suit with positive air pressure and they have thick gloves making delicate procedures almost impossible. This hospital is going to have a lot to answer for when this is over.
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