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Location: East Tennessee but who knows?! | I think the prudent thing to do would be test for the PSSM & Ulcers and neck injury first just to rule that out. Only then can you really have a management plan for your mare. Otherwise, you're just guessing. Once those are ruled out, then you can look at whether she just needs to settle in or not.
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Location: North MS | sounds like regumate dosage stopped abruptly after being on it a while. |
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Location: Fort Bragg North Carolina | I think of drugs...u knew the horse for 4 years but the owners could have kept her medicated? This is a huge personality change sounds very suspicious |
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| I tend to agree with the PSSM theory. If it is the case, she needs to be taken off of all Alfalfa too and only fed a grass hay and a very special diet low in sugar. |
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Location: Florida | streakysox - 2014-10-26 10:04 PM The first thing I would do is contact the person that you bought her from.
I have done so several times. She told me to get a Parelli trainer !! WTH ! I am a mature adult ...have had horses my entire life .. Trained quite a few of every discipline and fixed some problem horses in my time..don't get me wrong I am open and willing to learn and do so every day with horses !
She swears the mare wasn't on anything except Animal Element , Race Ready and tons of alfalfa and T&A. |
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Location: Florida | Tinker - 2014-10-28 8:26 AM I tend to agree with the PSSM theory. If it is the case, she needs to be taken off of all Alfalfa too and only fed a grass hay and a very special diet low in sugar.
I say "stiff" to ride because she is so unattentive..like riding a guitar string ! It's like she is on guard that something is out to get her constantly. Her former owner had her for 4 years with supposedly no problems and a quite "high" diet!
i did take her off the alfalfa and put her on Triple Crown Low Starch for about 3 weeks and grass hay. She actually got worse which is what led me to believe that it is gut issues as the alfalfa is soothing . |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | GoTreeless - 2014-10-28 9:41 PM Tinker - 2014-10-28 8:26 AM I tend to agree with the PSSM theory. If it is the case, she needs to be taken off of all Alfalfa too and only fed a grass hay and a very special diet low in sugar. I say "stiff" to ride because she is so unattentive..like riding a guitar string ! It's like she is on guard that something is out to get her constantly. Her former owner had her for 4 years with supposedly no problems and a quite "high" diet!
i did take her off the alfalfa and put her on Triple Crown Low Starch for about 3 weeks and grass hay. She actually got worse which is what led me to believe that it is gut issues as the alfalfa is soothing .
I have not read all the posts on your thread, but did you see this horse run? And did you know this horse when she belonged to the other lady? |
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Location: Florida | chicks2 - 2014-10-26 10:37 PM You said she sat back hard...did the vet check her neck? any xrays done?
The vet did ... No X-rays however ... Chiro worked on her neck and poll 3xs and each time I could see a change in her ... Just not to ride. |
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Location: Florida | Yes I have several times through the last 4 years ....and tons of videos when I didn't see her in person.
That is why this has been soooooooo frustrating !!! This is a super super nice mare !!! |
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Location: Florida | charlenenh - 2014-10-28 7:22 AM I think of drugs...u knew the horse for 4 years but the owners could have kept her medicated? This is a huge personality change sounds very suspicious
It is huge and was pretty much instant ... Not sure if I already posted but the very next day after I bought her we couldn't get near her !! Not even with feed.
Previous owner keeps blaming me ... Believe me I would take responsibility for everything just to have an answer !! LOL |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | Hummm, could you maybe get the past owner to come see her and ride her for you to see how the mare would do for her? Or haul her to the lady and see if they still click? |
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Location: Texas!! | I sold a mare that did the same thing to her next owner! Within a couple of months they said she was completely crazy. Couldn't catch her, had to sedate her to do her feet, scared when she was rode. Luckily it was not too far, I drove over to see for myself. I went to catch her, they told me no way I could catch her in the pasture, I did. I tied her to their trailer, brushed her, picked out her feet with no problem, then I rode her, still loved her, she did everything I asked. When the young lady walked over to her, she started trembling. I know she had not been abused, but she just didn't trust the lady. She had always been a little stand offish. Needless to say I ended up buying her back later on. She went on to win again for us. And I feel like I could never sell her again. She is just too settled here. Also I bought her the first time when she was 2, sold her when she was 6, and bought her back at 8. Now she is 12. And I think she would do the same thing if I sold her again. She is just weird, lol. I wish you the best, but just wonder if she relates her pain, from cut foot, to you. especially if you had to doctor it, and that may have been a little painful too. Since it happened right off the bat. Sorry for the book, but I would try and figure out some way to work on trust. |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | rodeodelux - 2014-10-28 10:10 PM
I sold a mare that did the same thing to her next owner! Within a couple of months they said she was completely crazy. Couldn't catch her, had to sedate her to do her feet, scared when she was rode. Luckily it was not too far, I drove over to see for myself. I went to catch her, they told me no way I could catch her in the pasture, I did. I tied her to their trailer, brushed her, picked out her feet with no problem, then I rode her, still loved her, she did everything I asked. When the young lady walked over to her, she started trembling. I know she had not been abused, but she just didn't trust the lady. She had always been a little stand offish. Needless to say I ended up buying her back later on. She went on to win again for us. And I feel like I could never sell her again. She is just too settled here. Also I bought her the first time when she was 2, sold her when she was 6, and bought her back at 8. Now she is 12. And I think she would do the same thing if I sold her again. She is just weird, lol. I wish you the best, but just wonder if she relates her pain, from cut foot, to you. especially if you had to doctor it, and that may have been a little painful too. Since it happened right off the bat. Sorry for the book, but I would try and figure out some way to work on trust.
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Location: Florida | rodeodelux - 2014-10-28 11:10 PM I sold a mare that did the same thing to her next owner! Within a couple of months they said she was completely crazy. Couldn't catch her, had to sedate her to do her feet, scared when she was rode. Luckily it was not too far, I drove over to see for myself. I went to catch her, they told me no way I could catch her in the pasture, I did. I tied her to their trailer, brushed her, picked out her feet with no problem, then I rode her, still loved her, she did everything I asked. When the young lady walked over to her, she started trembling. I know she had not been abused, but she just didn't trust the lady. She had always been a little stand offish. Needless to say I ended up buying her back later on. She went on to win again for us. And I feel like I could never sell her again. She is just too settled here. Also I bought her the first time when she was 2, sold her when she was 6, and bought her back at 8. Now she is 12. And I think she would do the same thing if I sold her again. She is just weird, lol. I wish you the best, but just wonder if she relates her pain, from cut foot, to you. especially if you had to doctor it, and that may have been a little painful too. Since it happened right off the bat. Sorry for the book, but I would try and figure out some way to work on trust.
Thank you for all the help/response ! I thought the same thing that she associates me with pain. I had my friend/barn owner try to just mess with her - brush her, pet her...etc... same thing - and she feeds her more than I do as I have to board her at her place !! I am hoping that treating her gut will help the situation. I was at the barn yesterday and she actually was a tad better. I lunged her before getting on her (which I hate to do especially on a made horse) and she actually paid me some attention.
Saddling was a nightmare however !! I started singing a song that was playing on the radio and just totally ignored her antics...she got worse before I was done. Figured since I can't sing a lick she would behave so I would shut up !! LOL |
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Location: Florida | Southtxponygirl - 2014-10-28 10:55 PM Hummm, could you maybe get the past owner to come see her and ride her for you to see how the mare would do for her? Or haul her to the lady and see if they still click?
I would LOVE that !! However she is 10 hours away. When I contacted her about helping me possibly sell her - she was more concerned about how much I was going to pay her rather than the horses welfare; so dead end there. |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | GoTreeless - 2014-10-29 2:24 PM Southtxponygirl - 2014-10-28 10:55 PM Hummm, could you maybe get the past owner to come see her and ride her for you to see how the mare would do for her? Or haul her to the lady and see if they still click? I would LOVE that !! However she is 10 hours away. When I contacted her about helping me possibly sell her - she was more concerned about how much I was going to pay her rather than the horses welfare; so dead end there.
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Location: Florida | Southtxponygirl - 2014-10-29 3:30 PM GoTreeless - 2014-10-29 2:24 PM Southtxponygirl - 2014-10-28 10:55 PM Hummm, could you maybe get the past owner to come see her and ride her for you to see how the mare would do for her? Or haul her to the lady and see if they still click? I would LOVE that !! However she is 10 hours away. When I contacted her about helping me possibly sell her - she was more concerned about how much I was going to pay her rather than the horses welfare; so dead end there.
Yes - I have done it all ! Ride in an Original Bob Marshall (which she was ridden in by previous owner also) and a 5 Star pad. The mare was ridden in a Wade pad. I even tried my friends Bob Marshall with a different girth; same thing !
Believe me I have lost a TON of sleep over all this....she was not a cheap mare which makes it that much worse. :(
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | GoTreeless - 2014-10-29 2:33 PM Southtxponygirl - 2014-10-29 3:30 PM GoTreeless - 2014-10-29 2:24 PM Southtxponygirl - 2014-10-28 10:55 PM Hummm, could you maybe get the past owner to come see her and ride her for you to see how the mare would do for her? Or haul her to the lady and see if they still click? I would LOVE that !! However she is 10 hours away. When I contacted her about helping me possibly sell her - she was more concerned about how much I was going to pay her rather than the horses welfare; so dead end there.
Believe me I have lost a TON of sleep over all this....she was not a cheap mare which makes it that much worse. :(
Oh I understand, I have bought a gelding a few years back nice horse that was suppose to be a good fella, but the more I rode him the worst he got, talked to an owner that had him befor I bought him from the last owner and she was thinking he had EPM in his younger days but was never treated so he got pasted around a few times befor I bought him, so now hes in my back pasture with my retired horses, I need to take him in to have tested to see for sure, but he seems really happy where hes at now, I do know that he had his legs ran off at some point in his life so thought I would leave him along for a while but that has turned out to be a few years now. Sorry that you are going threw this mess wish I could be of help to you.  |
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