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jbhoot
Reg. Jan 2010
Posted 2014-11-03 6:29 PM
Subject: RE: What I would like to see changed in The American



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heidiinaz - 2014-11-03 5:51 PM

 So what will happen that horse will run three times at the semi finals?

Read the rules You are NOT qualifying the horse you are qualifying the rider. However once a horse is qualified it can't be qualified again. Example say three riders qualify on the same horse only one can ride that horse at the semi finals and at the finals.
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kmcsunshine
Reg. May 2007
Posted 2014-11-03 6:29 PM
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fatchance - 2014-11-03 5:29 PM
Nevertooold - 2014-11-03 3:19 PM Since they are putting all of this on and adding all the money, I wouldn't step on anyone's toes and if I was the producer I would tell people if they didn't like what I was doing that they needed to put on their own version of the American..LOL 
Can we all hear an AMEN!!!

Yes you can!  At least from me.
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sodapop
Reg. Feb 2005
Posted 2014-11-03 6:39 PM
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 Did they have very many qualifiers in any events east of the Mississippi River? Just curious. I don't care how they do things. It's their event and everyone knows what is at stake when they enter.
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Reg. Mar 2004
Posted 2014-11-03 6:42 PM
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sodapop - 2014-11-03 6:39 PM  Did they have very many qualifiers in any events east of the Mississippi River? Just curious. I don't care how they do things. It's their event and everyone knows what is at stake when they enter.

Take my geography with a grain of salt..... But there was one in Ohio and one still to come in Florida.  Idk if I'm missing any more, though!
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Itsme
Reg. Jul 2013
Posted 2014-11-03 6:57 PM
Subject: RE: What I would like to see changed in The American


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heidiinaz - 2014-11-03 5:51 PM  So what will happen that horse will run three times at the semi finals?
There's also no rule that says you have to run the horse you qualified on. My guess would be probably not. Three balls-to-the-wall runs in a few hours would be a HUGE task. Not to mention, there's the chance the riders could draw up back to back.
They can qualify at different races on the same horse but according to the rule below....they can NOT all ride the same horse at the Semi-Finals or the American.........The next rule (R9) states that the qualification is for the RIDER.....those who qualified on the same horse will have to ride different mounts at the Semis



R8: A horse may not be ridden by two contestants, or twice by the same contestant, at one Qualification Race, the Semi-Finals or the American, regardless of the relationship of the contestants.

 

I guess it's a good thing to know the rules before wanting to change them..LOL Thanks for posting them.

 

I dont think anyone that was confused was for or against changing the rule, they wanted more info. I on the other hand knew the rule from prior discussions on here and still dont like multiple people qualifying on one horse.

Its going to turn into a popularity contest and a battle of money to buy your way onto a top horse instead of running your own. IMO

Also the one I noticed last night didnt qualify the rider anyways...
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Reg. Apr 2006
Posted 2014-11-03 7:03 PM
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fatchance - 2014-11-03 5:29 PM
Nevertooold - 2014-11-03 3:19 PM Since they are putting all of this on and adding all the money, I wouldn't step on anyone's toes and if I was the producer I would tell people if they didn't like what I was doing that they needed to put on their own version of the American..LOL 
Can we all hear an AMEN!!!

Amen! 
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barrelracer1983
Reg. Nov 2003
Posted 2014-11-03 7:04 PM
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Itsme - 2014-11-03 2:28 PM

I would like to see them all ran on a standard pattern for reference and only allow a horse to qualify 1 person.

What would you gals do differently?

Only qualify one horse, only one attempt allowed, and pick one race. If you don't make it the first time - too bad.
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barrelracer1983
Reg. Nov 2003
Posted 2014-11-03 7:05 PM
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Itsme - 2014-11-03 2:28 PM

I would like to see them all ran on a standard pattern for reference and only allow a horse to qualify 1 person.

What would you gals do differently?

and drop the entry fees. JMO, $500 is outrageous.
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svincent
Reg. Feb 2012
Posted 2014-11-03 7:08 PM
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NJJ - 2014-11-03 6:16 PM

svincent - 2014-11-03 5:54 PM
heidiinaz - 2014-11-03 5:51 PM  So what will happen that horse will run three times at the semi finals?
There's also no rule that says you have to run the horse you qualified on. My guess would be probably not. Three balls-to-the-wall runs in a few hours would be a HUGE task. Not to mention, there's the chance the riders could draw up back to back.

They can qualify at different races on the same horse but according to the rule below....they can NOT all ride the same horse at the Semi-Finals or the American.........The next rule (R9) states that the qualification is for the RIDER.....those who qualified on the same horse will have to ride different mounts at the Semis

R8: A horse may not be ridden by two contestants, or twice by the same contestant, at one Qualification Race, the Semi-Finals or the American, regardless of the relationship of the contestants.
 

Thanks for clarifying! My mistake :)

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3rdtimesacharm
Reg. Dec 2003
Posted 2014-11-03 7:08 PM
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 I would like to see different people in the exemption bracket every year. Other than that I think it's great
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SKM
Reg. Dec 2003
Posted 2014-11-03 7:18 PM
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3rdtimesacharm - 2014-11-03 6:08 PM

 I would like to see different people in the exemption bracket every year. Other than that I think it's great

 That's pretty tough to do since the exemption has to be a previous World Champion. That leaves us Charmayne, Kristie Peterson, Kelly Kaminski and Janae Ward. You can't count Brittany and Sherry since they are still rodeoing hard.I realize there ate World Champions prior to the 80's but I was just covering the last 30 years.
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rodeomom3
Reg. Dec 2007
Posted 2014-11-03 7:21 PM
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barrelracer1983 - 2014-11-03 7:05 PM
Itsme - 2014-11-03 2:28 PM I would like to see them all ran on a standard pattern for reference and only allow a horse to qualify 1 person. What would you gals do differently?
and drop the entry fees. JMO, $500 is outrageous.
I don't think the entry fee is outrageous for the opportunity to run for 1 million dollars.   If you qualify you have already won your $500 back plus if you place at the semis you get more $$ in your pocket.  It needs a big entry fee to set it apart.  

Edited by rodeomom3 2014-11-03 7:30 PM
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3rdtimesacharm
Reg. Dec 2003
Posted 2014-11-03 7:23 PM
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SKM - 2014-11-03 7:18 PM
3rdtimesacharm - 2014-11-03 6:08 PM  I would like to see different people in the exemption bracket every year. Other than that I think it's great
 That's pretty tough to do since the exemption has to be a previous World Champion. That leaves us Charmayne, Kristie Peterson, Kelly Kaminski and Janae Ward. You can't count Brittany and Sherry since they are still rodeoing hard.I realize there ate World Champions prior to the 80's but I was just covering the last 30 years.

 Well those are some different ones to use instead of the same people
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svincent
Reg. Feb 2012
Posted 2014-11-03 7:24 PM
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barrelracer1983 - 2014-11-03 7:05 PM
Itsme - 2014-11-03 2:28 PM I would like to see them all ran on a standard pattern for reference and only allow a horse to qualify 1 person. What would you gals do differently?
and drop the entry fees. JMO, $500 is outrageous.

I don't think the entry fee is outrageous for the opportunity to run for 1 million dollars.   If you qualify you have already won your $500 back plus if you plae at hte semis you get more $$ in your pocket.  It needs a big entry fee to set it apart.  

Totally agree. The high entry fee is what keeps it an elite group that tries to qualify. I wouldn't want to wait for 1500 good runs just to see 100 great runs, to see 10 AMAZING runs at each qualifier. Lol
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Reg. Aug 2004
Posted 2014-11-03 7:47 PM
Subject: RE: What I would like to see changed in The American


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fatchance - 2014-11-03 5:29 PM
Nevertooold - 2014-11-03 3:19 PM Since they are putting all of this on and adding all the money, I wouldn't step on anyone's toes and if I was the producer I would tell people if they didn't like what I was doing that they needed to put on their own version of the American..LOL 
Can we all hear an AMEN!!!

 

Heaven forbid someone have an opinion...yall just stay barefoot and pregnant while doing dishes...

What's that? You are attempting to type in English again? But spouting Spanish.
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Reg. Sep 2003
Posted 2014-11-03 7:47 PM
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kmcsunshine - 2014-11-03 6:29 PM
fatchance - 2014-11-03 5:29 PM
Nevertooold - 2014-11-03 3:19 PM Since they are putting all of this on and adding all the money, I wouldn't step on anyone's toes and if I was the producer I would tell people if they didn't like what I was doing that they needed to put on their own version of the American..LOL 
Can we all hear an AMEN!!!
Yes you can!  At least from me.

 amen
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Reg. Aug 2004
Posted 2014-11-03 7:49 PM
Subject: RE: What I would like to see changed in The American


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SG. - 2014-11-03 7:47 PM

kmcsunshine - 2014-11-03 6:29 PM
fatchance - 2014-11-03 5:29 PM
Nevertooold - 2014-11-03 3:19 PM Since they are putting all of this on and adding all the money, I wouldn't step on anyone's toes and if I was the producer I would tell people if they didn't like what I was doing that they needed to put on their own version of the American..LOL 
Can we all hear an AMEN!!!
Yes you can!  At least from me.

 amen

Amen
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Reg. Feb 2008
Posted 2014-11-03 8:17 PM
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barrelracer1983 - 2014-11-03 7:05 PM
Itsme - 2014-11-03 2:28 PM I would like to see them all ran on a standard pattern for reference and only allow a horse to qualify 1 person. What would you gals do differently?
and drop the entry fees. JMO, $500 is outrageous.
I don't think the entry fee is outrageous for the opportunity to run for 1 million dollars.   If you qualify you have already won your $500 back plus if you place at the semis you get more $$ in your pocket.  It needs a big entry fee to set it apart.  

I agree.  There are a lot of slot races with less money up for grabs with at least if not more than $500 entry.
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kmcsunshine
Reg. May 2007
Posted 2014-11-04 5:17 AM
Subject: RE: What I would like to see changed in The American



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Itsme - 2014-11-03 5:50 PM
BBKitamanCutter - 2014-11-03 5:43 PM
fatchance - 2014-11-03 5:29 PM
Nevertooold - 2014-11-03 3:19 PM Since they are putting all of this on and adding all the money, I wouldn't step on anyone's toes and if I was the producer I would tell people if they didn't like what I was doing that they needed to put on their own version of the American..LOL 
Can we all hear an AMEN!!!
 
Heaven forbid someone have an opinion...yall just stay barefoot and pregnant while doing dishes...

Are you entering?  Do you plan to?  Do you have a horse that can hang?  If not, why does it matter to you?
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Reg. Mar 2005
Posted 2014-11-04 9:20 AM
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rodeomom3 - 2014-11-02 5:32 PM How many indoor arenas across the country are big enough to run a standard pattern?   The American finals is on a tiny pattern.  I would like to see more qualifiers make it back to the semis when they draw as many entries as the Texas one did.  I did hear that one horse qualified 3 people- wonder how that work if all 3 made it to the finals?  

I don't think they will ride the same horse in the semi's..........don't think that is allowed........."think" is the key word........those I know that qualified on the same horse.....same family.......have the caliber horses to run the semi's that didn't make their qualifying run...........
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