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RidenFly
Reg. Nov 2006
Posted 2014-12-16 1:40 PM
Subject: RE: Donald Trump.



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Frodo - 2014-12-17 10:50 AM Donald Trump just likes to screw with folks.  I doubt he would make a serious run.

One thing he harps on continually and I agree with him is that China is destroying the economy of the U.S.   Last week I bought a curling iron at Target and a pillow at Kohls. Both were Made in China.   Seriously we can't make those things here in Wichita, KS.







 

Nope.  It is too expensive to do business here.  Corp tax rates, EPA, etc etc.  I just got out of a week long discussion about all this with a good friend and die in the wool Liberal.  He insist we give corps too many breaks now.  I told him if we didn't throw the dogs a bone then he'd have to pay 3.00 per box for his Mac N Cheese.   I don't know if he loves me anymore. 
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RidenFly
Reg. Nov 2006
Posted 2014-12-16 1:45 PM
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Jeb Bush just announced his intentions too.  Via FB no less.  I guess today is a good day to watch the GOP implode all over again. 
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Frodo
Reg. Jul 2004
Posted 2014-12-16 1:47 PM
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RidenFly - 2014-12-16 1:40 PM
Frodo - 2014-12-17 10:50 AM Donald Trump just likes to screw with folks.  I doubt he would make a serious run.

One thing he harps on continually and I agree with him is that China is destroying the economy of the U.S.   Last week I bought a curling iron at Target and a pillow at Kohls. Both were Made in China.   Seriously we can't make those things here in Wichita, KS.







 
Nope.  It is too expensive to do business here.  Corp tax rates, EPA, etc etc.  I just got out of a week long discussion about all this with a good friend and die in the wool Liberal.  He insist we give corps too many breaks now.  I told him if we didn't throw the dogs a bone then he'd have to pay 3.00 per box for his Mac N Cheese.   I don't know if he loves me anymore. 

You're right.  We had a small delivery service send us a letter a few months ago.  They were throwing in the towel.......government regulations were more than they could contend with.
 
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RidenFly
Reg. Nov 2006
Posted 2014-12-16 1:52 PM
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We love shooting ourselves in the foot.  So many of these EPA regulations are only enforced here in the U.S. Meanwhile, China and other countries are are barreling toxins into the air and water like gang busters.  Two wrongs don't make a right but there sure isn't any happy mediums going around,  Keystone for one.   
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jbhoot
Reg. Jan 2010
Posted 2014-12-16 2:54 PM
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It really is who can make it threw the primary's. If the GOP runs on getting the independents and assume they will get the base like they did last time they will loose again. However if they run on just going for the base they will loose also. So of the possible contenders who can get both? Romney can if he keeps being more outspoken as he has recently ( he was not during the last election). IMO Jeb can get the independents but will not get the base and will not make it out of the primary's. Bobby J does not have enough national presents and won't make out of the primary's. Walker has a good shot but the Dem's will throw everything and the kitchen sink against him in primary's and I don't think he will make it. Rubio needs to cook awhile more BUT could make a great VP. Christy Will do great in the north east and the west coast but will fall flat everywhere else. Paul can get the independents and the youth the question is can he get the base. I am not sure on that one. I like him on most things but he scares the heck out of me on foreign policy. As far as the Dem's go I don't think Hillary is going to get the nod. The left doesn't like her nor do the millenials (sp) and she has to make it thru the primary's ( she did not fair well last time) I think the Dem's smell blood in the water as to Hillary and Warren and a couple others are going to give her a run for the money if she wins the nomination it will be by a hair and Bill's help. The way Bill has been talking lately I am not sure he can pull this one off.
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Bear
Reg. Dec 2007
Posted 2014-12-16 3:01 PM
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jbhoot - 2014-12-16 2:54 PM

It really is who can make it threw the primary's. If the GOP runs on getting the independents and assume they will get the base like they did last time they will loose again. However if they run on just going for the base they will loose also. So of the possible contenders who can get both? Romney can if he keeps being more outspoken as he has recently ( he was not during the last election). IMO Jeb can get the independents but will not get the base and will not make it out of the primary's. Bobby J does not have enough national presents and won't make out of the primary's. Walker has a good shot but the Dem's will throw everything and the kitchen sink against him in primary's and I don't think he will make it. Rubio needs to cook awhile more BUT could make a great VP. Christy Will do great in the north east and the west coast but will fall flat everywhere else. Paul can get the independents and the youth the question is can he get the base. I am not sure on that one. I like him on most things but he scares the heck out of me on foreign policy. As far as the Dem's go I don't think Hillary is going to get the nod. The left doesn't like her nor do the millenials (sp) and she has to make it thru the primary's ( she did not fair well last time) I think the Dem's smell blood in the water as to Hillary and Warren and a couple others are going to give her a run for the money if she wins the nomination it will be by a hair and Bill's help. The way Bill has been talking lately I am not sure he can pull this one off.

The thing about Walker is that they've already thrown everything at him, and he shrugged it off like water on a duck's back. He seems unflappable, even keeled, and sticks to his message.
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jbhoot
Reg. Jan 2010
Posted 2014-12-16 3:11 PM
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Bear - 2014-12-16 3:01 PM

jbhoot - 2014-12-16 2:54 PM

It really is who can make it threw the primary's. If the GOP runs on getting the independents and assume they will get the base like they did last time they will loose again. However if they run on just going for the base they will loose also. So of the possible contenders who can get both? Romney can if he keeps being more outspoken as he has recently ( he was not during the last election). IMO Jeb can get the independents but will not get the base and will not make it out of the primary's. Bobby J does not have enough national presents and won't make out of the primary's. Walker has a good shot but the Dem's will throw everything and the kitchen sink against him in primary's and I don't think he will make it. Rubio needs to cook awhile more BUT could make a great VP. Christy Will do great in the north east and the west coast but will fall flat everywhere else. Paul can get the independents and the youth the question is can he get the base. I am not sure on that one. I like him on most things but he scares the heck out of me on foreign policy. As far as the Dem's go I don't think Hillary is going to get the nod. The left doesn't like her nor do the millenials (sp) and she has to make it thru the primary's ( she did not fair well last time) I think the Dem's smell blood in the water as to Hillary and Warren and a couple others are going to give her a run for the money if she wins the nomination it will be by a hair and Bill's help. The way Bill has been talking lately I am not sure he can pull this one off.

The thing about Walker is that they've already thrown everything at him, and he shrugged it off like water on a duck's back. He seems unflappable, even keeled, and sticks to his message.

Oh I agree but that was on a state level. And I know that there was a lot of national money thrown at it. But if he runs a national campaign EVERY union will spend there last dollar to defeat him. Can he over come it maybe but I don't think so. I do like him I just don't think he can make to the finish line.
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Nevertooold
Reg. Oct 2003
Posted 2014-12-16 3:23 PM
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lindseylou2290 - 2014-12-16 11:01 AM
RidenFly - 2014-12-16 10:59 AM
lindseylou2290 - 2014-12-17 8:51 AM I agree that Palin needs to stay as the lightening rod. 



I really like Scott W and I really like Mitt.  Now, will Mitt run? Probably not.  However, I think he could make the budget issues balanced ... he's done it before with major budgets and I think it needs to come back. Our country is in a real tight situation when we are focusing MORE on social issues that the gov't should have nothing to do with instead of focusing on things they should be in charge of - like budgets and rebuilding an economy in which people can get/keep jobs instead of protesting.



Also - GOD HELP US if Hillary gets the nod or heaven forbid the POTUS.  I will move. 

JMO. 
  
She is scary. 
I think what scares me the most is how easily she lies .... straight faced, doesn't look away, very practiced.  UG.  I'm not ok with that - and when faced with her lie, she gets belligerent and denies everything.  LOVELY.  

It is very accepted since our current president on down does it so well. It's who they are. LOL 
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Bear
Reg. Dec 2007
Posted 2014-12-16 3:25 PM
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The unions always throw every dollar they can at the GOP candidate. They are a wing of the Democrat party. The national unions focused on him like a laser beam and the Dems called in all their heavy hitters. No matter who the GOP nominee is, the unions will oppose him/her with all they can muster, as is always the case.
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RidenFly
Reg. Nov 2006
Posted 2014-12-16 3:35 PM
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Is Ted Cruz not eligible to run?   
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rodeomom13
Reg. Apr 2008
Posted 2014-12-16 4:02 PM
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RidenFly - 2014-12-16 2:35 PM Is Ted Cruz not eligible to run?   

Wasn't he born in Canada? That didn't stop the Kenyan, but it's different when he's not the liberal media's pet. Apples and oranges, you know.  
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CJE
Reg. Mar 2005
Posted 2014-12-16 7:40 PM
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Bear - 2014-12-15 9:59 AM I honestly hope Romney makes another run. I can't think of anyone more qualified to be president. I'm not crazy about Jeb Bush running, for some reason, and I am pretty sure he's going to throw his hat in the ring. Allen West is a good man. Honestly, anyone would seem heaven sent compared to this bunch we have now. On the Democrat side, things are beginning to look interesting. Hillary just might be in for a fight.

I actually think Romney polls higher as the presidential candidate..........even with Bush in the lineup.
I like Alan West.............
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Frodo
Reg. Jul 2004
Posted 2014-12-17 8:38 AM
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While I very much like Allen West and Ben Carson, their low-key, monotone, uninspired ways of speaking will definitely need a bump-up if they decide to run for anything.

 
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musikmaker
Reg. Sep 2004
Posted 2014-12-17 9:12 AM
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Cruz/Lee.
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RidenFly
Reg. Nov 2006
Posted 2014-12-17 9:53 AM
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musikmaker - 2014-12-18 7:12 AM Cruz/Lee.

I can't seem to get a handle if Cruz can run or not but yeah, I'd love to have him somewhere on the ticket. 
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lindseylou2290
Reg. Aug 2013
Posted 2014-12-17 9:56 AM
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Nevertooold - 2014-12-16 3:23 PM
lindseylou2290 - 2014-12-16 11:01 AM
RidenFly - 2014-12-16 10:59 AM
lindseylou2290 - 2014-12-17 8:51 AM I agree that Palin needs to stay as the lightening rod. 



I really like Scott W and I really like Mitt.  Now, will Mitt run? Probably not.  However, I think he could make the budget issues balanced ... he's done it before with major budgets and I think it needs to come back. Our country is in a real tight situation when we are focusing MORE on social issues that the gov't should have nothing to do with instead of focusing on things they should be in charge of - like budgets and rebuilding an economy in which people can get/keep jobs instead of protesting.



Also - GOD HELP US if Hillary gets the nod or heaven forbid the POTUS.  I will move. 

JMO. 
  
She is scary. 
I think what scares me the most is how easily she lies .... straight faced, doesn't look away, very practiced.  UG.  I'm not ok with that - and when faced with her lie, she gets belligerent and denies everything.  LOVELY.  
It is very accepted since our current president on down does it so well. It's who they are. LOL 

 TRUE! It's going to be an interesting election for sure ....
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musikmaker
Reg. Sep 2004
Posted 2014-12-17 10:11 AM
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RidenFly - 2014-12-17 8:53 AM
musikmaker - 2014-12-18 7:12 AM Cruz/Lee.
I can't seem to get a handle if Cruz can run or not but yeah, I'd love to have him somewhere on the ticket. 

I don't know, either...I did read somewhere that, although he was born in Canada, his mother is American & he had dual citizenship at birth and later gave up his Canadian citizenship which makes him eligible.
I do like his guts...his tenacity & his willingness to stand up for our Constitional rights even when he knows he's going to get clobbered by the media & the rest of the world!

I also know quite a few ppl who have previously been left leaning who are liking him & Lee.  A friend of mine who is a Navajo, a city manager and a gay man...is a Cruz supporter.
Cruz & Lee are more about the Constitution than right/left.  We need that.


 
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RidenFly
Reg. Nov 2006
Posted 2014-12-17 10:39 AM
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musikmaker - 2014-12-18 8:11 AM
RidenFly - 2014-12-17 8:53 AM
musikmaker - 2014-12-18 7:12 AM Cruz/Lee.
I can't seem to get a handle if Cruz can run or not but yeah, I'd love to have him somewhere on the ticket. 
I don't know, either...I did read somewhere that, although he was born in Canada, his mother is American & he had dual citizenship at birth and later gave up his Canadian citizenship which makes him eligible.

I do like his guts...his tenacity & his willingness to stand up for our Constitional rights even when he knows he's going to get clobbered by the media & the rest of the world!



I also know quite a few ppl who have previously been left leaning who are liking him & Lee.  A friend of mine who is a Navajo, a city manager and a gay man...is a Cruz supporter.

Cruz & Lee are more about the Constitution than right/left.  We need that.




 

Cruz is also a good speaker and would be supported by some people that are great at drumming up excitement.
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lindseylou2290
Reg. Aug 2013
Posted 2014-12-17 10:41 AM
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RidenFly - 2014-12-17 10:39 AM
musikmaker - 2014-12-18 8:11 AM
RidenFly - 2014-12-17 8:53 AM
musikmaker - 2014-12-18 7:12 AM Cruz/Lee.
I can't seem to get a handle if Cruz can run or not but yeah, I'd love to have him somewhere on the ticket. 
I don't know, either...I did read somewhere that, although he was born in Canada, his mother is American & he had dual citizenship at birth and later gave up his Canadian citizenship which makes him eligible.

I do like his guts...his tenacity & his willingness to stand up for our Constitional rights even when he knows he's going to get clobbered by the media & the rest of the world!



I also know quite a few ppl who have previously been left leaning who are liking him & Lee.  A friend of mine who is a Navajo, a city manager and a gay man...is a Cruz supporter.

Cruz & Lee are more about the Constitution than right/left.  We need that.




 
Cruz is also a good speaker and would be supported by some people that are great at drumming up excitement.

All good points ... I do like him. 
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cavyrunsbarrels
Reg. Dec 2010
Posted 2014-12-18 1:23 AM
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Bear - 2014-12-16 9:50 AM Scott Walker might run...I have a feeling he will. I like what he's done in Wisconsin, plus he has withstood a withering assault from the far left and the unions, and has emerged unscathed. He is a battle-hardened veteran of two brutal campaigns from the left.....including help from both Clinton's, as well as the Obamunists. He doesn't get his feathers ruffled and is cool under assault. He's young and very likable, with solid conservative credentials. Keep an eye on him. I like him a lot. He just has the complete package -Midwestern, cool as a cucumber, solid conservative, young, sharp, good looking fella. The guy is a stallion.....I rank him right up there with Mitt.
 I like Walker and Cruz. I DO NOT want Jeb Bush, Donald Trump, or Christie. I like Romney but IDK I feel there are better choices out there.

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