ms cartman - 2015-02-08 3:14 PM

My horse fell on me at a barrel race in 2008 fracturing my distal fibulae. A SLANDEROUS LIE was spread by a few certain people that I was suing the facility owner. These individuals tried to get me banned from 4 different arenas in the state. Minnesota has a legal database which contains ALL lawsuits for 30+ years, so I proved my innocence multiple times by carrying state documents with me wherever I went.

A few years ago, I hauled to a barrel race at Arrowhead Arena. I was accosted by the event producer (a mutual friend told me she was one of those spreading the lie initially), saying that I couldn't enter because I had a lawsuit. I told her NO lawsuit ever existed and I could prove it. She said "It doesn't matter... you're not running at my barrel race". I peacefully left, but a few days later, I received a letter from the attorney of Arrowhead's owner (the owner and producer are friends), informing me that I would be arrested if I ever set foot on her property again. I immediately sent a letter with all the facts to the owner of Arrowhead Arena and yet, she continues to ignore the facts.

So, a personal vendetta is the only reason needed to 86 someone from a barrel race that you produce. The reason for the vendetta... WPRA fined the producer for beating her horse over the head with a whip at a pro rodeo and she accused me of turning her in. I had to get a letter from WPRA stating they have no record of me turning anyone in for anything and she STILL accuses me of it. I didn't witness it and didn't know who did until two years later. A PRCA judge told me he witnessed the animal abuse and fined her.

wickedstepmother - 2015-02-08 11:26 AM While this would be the right approach with most reasonable people, the woman I'm rreferring to is just not ever going to be receptive to reasoning. Period. In fact at another local event she caught me behind the trailers and while holding her newborn in a front pack, pproceeed to tell me I was a fat C-word. And she also started screaming at me the other day at a committee meeting for our local sorting. Yelling at me in front of a group of people, also while holding her infant. It was to the point where the president asked her to leave.

Jazz's Girl - 2015-02-09 10:37 AM We banned a girl. Actually she has been banned from several local arenas due to abusing her horse. But the final straw at this particular show was when her horse blew out of a turn during her run and she proceeded to whip on him in the arena. As she starts to head back for the barrel it was announced by the producer that circling the barrel was a $X fine per turn. She then turns the barrel 3 times. So the producer announced that she needed to come pay her fine before she ran her next horse. This girl is about 19. Has a short temper and is abusive to her horses. She proceeds to cuss the producer out when she isn't allowed to run her next horse until the fine was paid. And I mean CUSSED HER OUT. F bombs were flying. I would have probably socked her in the mouth for talking to me like that! She told her she never heard her say that was the rule and she didn't know. Sad part was the rules were posted both online, on fb and at the race so NO excuse. HER MOM STOOD THERE AND LET IT HAPPEN TOO!!!!!!! OP give the lady enough rope and she will hang herself. Just be patient. Noone puts up with this local girls crap and if she pulls any kind of stunt she is quickly told to vacate the premises and not come back. Good Luck. Im getting a first hand view at producing shows since I am helping several producers in the office. I have lost respect for quite a few ladies for the way they have treated us in the office. Its not an easy job.

Nevertooold - 2015-02-08 3:54 PM You should have posted rules that cover anyone causing problems will be asked to leave the grounds and will not be allowed to enter any more of your races. 

Bucky - 2015-02-09 10:26 AM


Ms Cartman I call bull****! Just because a lawsuit was never filed in Minnesota doesn't mean there wasn't intent to do so. Too bad for you that lawyers around here were smart enough to know there was no case. Do you also carry around paperwork from the states you HAVE sued people in? People in MN aren't stupid we know who you are.

scwebster - 2015-02-09 10:13 AM As some of the others have said, post rules for your race. Include a rule covering disruptive/disrespectful behavior, and when she breaks it (sounds like she will) ask her to leave and not to come back to your races. 



If you can, have witnesses around when/if you ask her to leave because she broke your rules. Maybe even have a recorder handy. This will support your case if she tries to take legal action against you.

 

gotothewhip - 2015-02-08 9:14 AM  You can't do it.   A great producer didn't allow a gal to enter who had some financial obligations to many in the industry....it was a long expensive legal event... And while the producer had good solid reasoning for refusing her entry...in court, she lost

Fairweather - 2015-02-10 2:18 AM  We have an open saddle club show here that's mostly pleasure classes. They have a statement in their rules that they reserve the right to ban a rider for ANY reason and that they have a zero social media policy and can ban based on that as well. They set the bar from the beginning and have one of the best run circuits out there. Your Show, your rules. As long as the rules are posted ahead of time and they choose to enter anyway I don't see why you should have a problem banning them should they break them. 

jd&ez - 2015-02-09 3:28 PM


You absoultely can ban someone from a privately funded event. You can't if there's government monies involved. There has to more to that story if they lost.

Just like the NFR legally bans men from competing in the barrel race. Augusta National still bans women members to this day. Legally.


A restaurant can refuse service as long as they don't do it solely based on race the way Denny's did it.


If I was producing horse shows there a some people that would not be allowed to participate and I would dare them to sue me. 

BBKitamanCutter - 2015-02-06 4:37 PM

 Personally I think your time and energy can be invested in other things rather then ostracizing someone you've never directly had a problem with.

Life is too short and you may never have an issue with her. If you make a point to personally attack (which banning her from the race would be) then you will have created the issue. I'd just let it be.

wickedstepmother - 2015-02-10 9:27 AM I agree!! I'm not understanding how people would not get laughed out of court for suing? Barrel racing is a privilege not a right. What be the basis for their court case? Oh and to clarify again, she ALREADY has cussed me out several times over at public functions as well as caused problems at previous races I've produced for two years in a row.