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| Ive used thrive since October, haven't tried Spark.
Started thrive for the energy, LOVE IT. Haven't had any of the weird side effects. And not using it to lose weight.
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     Location: North Dakota | jenagarwood - 2015-02-19 12:24 PM So...if human supplements are all gimmicks....are horse supplements all gimmicks too? Because we discuss those all the time :)
Yes, most of them are and/or are unnecessary. |
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     Location: North Dakota | ndcowgirl - 2015-02-19 12:53 PM Thrive contains synepherine which is chemically similar to the banned substance ephedra and caffeine. The amount is not on the label and even if it was supplements are not regulated by FDA and it's not until they start causing a lot of problems before the FDA will look into them and see what it really contains. It seems like everyone taking it raves about the increased energy, decreased appitite and increased mental clarity which happen to be benefits of stimulants. There are many bad side effects also including increased heart rate, increased blood pressure, risk of heart attack and stroke. I had heart palpations and it almost put someone else I knew in the ER.
The only thing I will put in my body to achieve more energy is better quality food. Caffeine and synepherine are drugs which all have side effects. They also have withdrawal effects which means you have messed with your body's nerve receptors. I do not want my body to become dependent on any sort of drug. I am also curious as to the safety of long-term use. It is such a new product and I know I sure as heck don't want to be the guinea pig! |
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       Location: Home....Smiling M Farms | jenagarwood - 2015-02-19 12:24 PM
So...if human supplements are all gimmicks....are horse supplements all gimmicks too? Because we discuss those all the time :)
There are tons of horse supplements that are junk, that are only good for making expensive urine. Know your ingredients and your measurements. I know one supplement in particular that says it's the best for coat, hooves, and joints. It only has 500mg of Glucosamine HCL in it for the joint part. That's like taking 1/4 of an advil for a splitting headache, not going to do a dang thing. Cost you an arm and a leg though...junk. |
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| I understand everyone's reservations. I only wanted to share my incredible success with it, and also share that I seen many of my friends have similar great success. And no, I wasn't a lazy slob who ate chips all day instead of exercising and eating right :)
Edited by jenagarwood 2015-02-19 8:18 PM
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      Location: Texas | I am looking into these for added energy and better overall health. I just always feel tired and sluggish. |
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      Location: Nowhere Special | I tried Thrive for a week.. It did nothing for me energy wise, but I live in a constant state of sleep deprivation so I didn't expect much.. I like the shakes, find they give me just as much of an energy boost as a monster will and its better for me. Did not like the patches at all, caused a rash. I also noticed I had really weird vivid dreams the week I was on thrive.. Now my brother took it for a week and said he was like the energizer bunny all week long, so it really helped him.. I think it must must effect different people differntly.. When I was working out and eating right is when I felt the best and had the most energy, need to get back on that wagon.. |
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    Location: Texas | jenagarwood - 2015-02-19 8:16 PM I understand everyone's reservations. I only wanted to share my incredible success with it, and also share that I seen many of my friends have similar great success. And no, I wasn't a lazy slob who ate chips all day instead of exercising and eating right :)
I'm like jenagarwood. It's been wonderful for me. I also eat super healthy and exercise daily. Not everything works for everyone. Just like with horse feeds and supplements as well as exercise programs. |
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       Location: East Tennessee but who knows?! | ndcowgirl - 2015-02-19 12:53 PM Thrive contains synepherine which is chemically similar to the banned substance ephedra and caffeine. The amount is not on the label and even if it was supplements are not regulated by FDA and it's not until they start causing a lot of problems before the FDA will look into them and see what it really contains. It seems like everyone taking it raves about the increased energy, decreased appitite and increased mental clarity which happen to be benefits of stimulants. There are many bad side effects also including increased heart rate, increased blood pressure, risk of heart attack and stroke. I had heart palpations and it almost put someone else I knew in the ER. Years ago I read a study from an MD journal that listed 30% rate of psychosis as well as issues with heart. I can't take stimulants like this for this very reason. So every product I've looked at is out of the question.
I have tried eating clean and although my joints don't ache, my energy levels don't improve at all. I can't eat whey or soy. I have tried home made greens and fruit smoothies with hemp or rice protein powders that also have probiotics. Even have one with Gensing. No boost in energy on any of that.
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| If you actually eat correctly and workout you will feel better and have more energy. If you stick with it and this does not happen see a doctor for blood work and to check your thyroid. And for the love of christ don't go to a "weight loss clinic" and say its a doctor its NOT, go see a real one. Find a workout professional in your area to help you with supplements. There are much better things out thing for energy than these gimmicks. |
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| I just don't understand what's wrong about getting vitamins, minerals, amino acids, probiotics, enzymes, etc. from a supplement, versus trying to eat it every day. I mean....we supplement those things for horses: Platinum, T.H.E., Exceed 6-way, Forco, you name it. I know I'm getting what my body needs this way, and I feel better because of it...and I don't have to eat all day long to try to get the same nutrition. Yes, there are human supplements out there that are a waste of money, and not every supplement works perfectly for everyone, just like some equine supplements don't work...but, not all of them are crap, just because some are crap.
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       Location: midwest mama | Supplements are fine, stimulants are not. |
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     Location: North Dakota | jenagarwood - 2015-02-20 9:07 PM I just don't understand what's wrong about getting vitamins, minerals, amino acids, probiotics, enzymes, etc. from a supplement, versus trying to eat it every day. I mean....we supplement those things for horses: Platinum, T.H.E., Exceed 6-way, Forco, you name it. I know I'm getting what my body needs this way, and I feel better because of it...and I don't have to eat all day long to try to get the same nutrition. Yes, there are human supplements out there that are a waste of money, and not every supplement works perfectly for everyone, just like some equine supplements don't work...but, not all of them are crap, just because some are crap.
If those were the only ingredients then I don't see anything wrong with it but the fact of the matter is that is not all you are putting in your body. It is loaded with caffeine. Green tea has caffeine, Guarana has caffeine, green coffee beans have caffeine, then there is synephrine. The ingredients also contain xanthan gum, maltodextrin, natural flavors, and sucralose. None of which are natural so to say this product is for health is a farce. It is nothing more than your typical energy drink (patch, whatever). |
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| Just Bring It - 2015-02-21 11:26 AM
jenagarwood - 2015-02-20 9:07 PM I just don't understand what's wrong about getting vitamins, minerals, amino acids, probiotics, enzymes, etc. from a supplement, versus trying to eat it every day. I mean....we supplement those things for horses: Platinum, T.H.E., Exceed 6-way, Forco, you name it. I know I'm getting what my body needs this way, and I feel better because of it...and I don't have to eat all day long to try to get the same nutrition. Yes, there are human supplements out there that are a waste of money, and not every supplement works perfectly for everyone, just like some equine supplements don't work...but, not all of them are crap, just because some are crap.
If those were the only ingredients then I don't see anything wrong with it but the fact of the matter is that is not all you are putting in your body. It is loaded with caffeine. Green tea has caffeine, Guarana has caffeine, green coffee beans have caffeine, then there is synephrine. The ingredients also contain xanthan gum, maltodextrin, natural flavors, and sucralose. None of which are natural so to say this product is for health is a farce. It is nothing more than your typical energy drink (patch, whatever).
I have researched this very carefully--not just making assumptions, but actually finding the amounts of ingredients on the labels. It has a total of 50 mg of caffeine, which is the same amount in one Excedrin tablet. It has 2 grams of sugar, including the sucralose. There are safe and unsafe levels of everything, including the things you listed. Per my research, and on the research of a physician, I am very comfortable with everything in this product. The fact that I am stronger and healthier than ever before in my life, further solidifies my decision.
I'm not going to post any more, because my intention was not to argue...but, I just hope people will do their due diligence, and not just make assumptions.
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      Location: north dakota | I've seen the promoters quote anywhere from 50-160 mg of caffeine in thrive but the amount is not listed on the packaging and I don't believe thrive is USP certified.
USP Verified dietary supplements are products that have been voluntarily submitted to the USP Dietary Supplement Verification Program and have successfully met the program's stringent testing and auditing criteria. The program was established by USP to help dietary supplement manufacturers ensure the production of quality products for consumers.
http://www.usp.org/usp-verification-services/usp-verified-dietary-s...
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  Location: MI | Sorry I haven't tried either so I can't help much but I just wanted to second getting your thyroid checked... Years ago I felt sluggish, always tired, & just plain 'off' and we realized my thyroid wasnt working properly. Just something to consider :) |
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| I have only taken Zeal Wellness. It is a Functional Food, not a supplement. Wholefood nutrition in it's purist form and the only product on the market containing stabilized rice bran, all natural, gluten free and caffeine free. I feel better than I have in years, more energy, focus, and less aches and pains. Results people are seeing are amazing. Let me know if you would like more info or free samples. |
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| Haven't tried those two products but I will never ever quit my Plexus and it's not a weightloss gimmick because I haven't lost any! My opinion is based solely on how much clearer headed I am, more good energy with no form of jitters, mood is WAY more even, digestive system functions better.. I'm a believer in probiotics now, I don't take the other weight loss boosters. |
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       Location: ~Kansas~ | I tired both and didn't care for either... I was on advocare for 6 months before I threw in towel..
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| I don't know anything about Thrive other than it has worked for some people I know and not so for others. Spark I have used for over ten years - its a great pick me up and pre workout booster. It actually does cut my appetite somewhat. Its not marketed that way but that is what I have experienced.
I recently started a product from TruVision called TruFix and TruWeight and Energy and have had incredible results with it as have lots of my close friends. It does not make me jittery, gives me energy and helps me get through my stressful busy day.
I am losing inches and eating less. It has helped with my mood swings due to stress as well. Yes I am an associate with the company but only posted this to give you possibly another option. Good luck!
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