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Iwish
Reg. Oct 2010
Posted 2015-02-19 6:43 PM
Subject: RE: total equine, am I missing something?



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I see, I see.... I think i will stick with what i am currently using as it does seem to be working. Im currently feeding purina enrich plus (the recommended amount) 4 cups of beet pulp (basically just enough to get her to eat her supplements, shes very picky) and rice bran. Supplement wise i am feeding FORCO, lysine and tight joints. She gets 24/7 good quality grass hay and is on pasture. I did buy a bale of alfalfa and was feeding her a flake am and pm and she became HOT and ADD like, were as before on this grain mix she was fine, so i took her off of the alfalfa.
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Jenbabe
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Posted 2015-02-19 6:52 PM
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TrailGirl - 2015-02-19 3:25 PM

Jenbabe - 2015-02-19 2:58 PM

I've never used the feed and can't imagine that I ever will. I agree that people either love it or hate it. Some of the people that love it are seeing positive results because they are feeding poor quality hay. Like was mentioned, the first ingredient is alfalfa. We feed alfalfa and have a hard time keeping weight off of our horses. I do feed a small amount of grain, but I really could quit feeding any grain at all and our horses would still look great. I agree that focusing more on the quality of the forage horses are getting would be much better when trying to get better body condition.



I assure you I do NOT feed poor quality hay. It's tested...so I know. BUT...we do not have a good source of alfalfa hay here. We just don't. So I feed the best coastal bermuda I can get as that's what is grown primarily in the area. (I drive a long way for the better stuff as it is)

So...I have 3 geldings. Two that have and continue to look fantastic on a simple program of QUALITY hay with very little grain. Just enough to make them feel they got something. And this old guy that just didn't anymore. He does look great on Total Equine. He just does. Likely he cannot utilize the nutrition from the hay as well as he used to.

So...whatever works for you...that's great. But don't assume others that have horses improve on this feed do so because they feed poor quality hay. And you say yourself you have not ever tried it.

Whoa, I was in no way implying that you weren't feeding quality hay. But I am speaking for SOME of the horses I've seen locally. I won't be trying it because my horses don't need an alfalfa supplement. I was sharing my personal thoughts and observations, so please don't take it personally or think I am judging you. To each his own. You'll see that what I said seems to hold true with the other responses, people either love it or hate it.
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Turnin3inTN
Reg. Sep 2005
Posted 2015-02-20 10:35 PM
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 If I remember correctly isn't the 4th ingredient corn?  I know when I switched to Total Equine my gelding got body/muscle sore. That was the only thing I changed was his grain. After 3 weeks I couldnt brush him without him flinching.  Changed back to what I was feeding and he returned to normal. Anyone else have this happen?  I read on a feed forum the high carb/starch (from the corn) could have caused the body/muscle soreness.
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trotncowpony
Reg. Aug 2008
Posted 2015-02-21 4:49 AM
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I have fed it for I guess going on 5 years now. I also have friends and family, 4 other barns, that started using it when I switched. My 30 yo hotbred gelding gained about 300lbs on it and would have been long dead had I not switched as he had stopped coming up at feeding time. He wouldn't eat grain at all. After I switched he would be standing at his feed tub pawing the ground at feeding time.

I've seen it put top lines on horses that nothing else would. It also maintained body condition on my horses that were in heavy heavy training. I'm talking 8 hour days in cattle and also heavy roping.

As for it making horses hot, well my very high strung 1d mare totally chilled out after I switched her. And she performs better than ever.

I've got everything from young stallions to brood mares and performance horses and seniors on it. And my horses always look better than anyone's when I haul somewhere. Slick shiny and excellent top lines.

It's also as safe of a grain as I have ever used. Meaning if I've had to make changes with my feed schedule it has not effected my horses. With other grains I was always much more cautious.

It's an excellent feed and real really performs well.

And I feed first class hay.

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iloveequine40
Reg. Oct 2013
Posted 2015-02-21 7:19 AM
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Tried it. Mares looked good. Geldings looked terrible! I've recently gone grainless. Feeding alfalfa (I've always fed once daily) and enrich plus, pasture turnout. Grass is dead right now so I do throw out Bermuda mid day. It's been about 30 days and my horses look amazing. I really researched and talked with my vet bc I was worried about my hard keeper dropping off but he's hasn't. My vet told me to add oil (pure fat) if he did start dropping weight, but he has blossomed! I attribute that to the increase in quality alfalfa and the enrich. It has EVERYTHING they need. I've always heard alfalfa will make a horse hot but I think their are possible other contributing factors often overlooked in those situations. My quirky gelding seems much happier and chill. My feed bill has been cut in half since switching to enrich, another plus!
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Iwish
Reg. Oct 2010
Posted 2015-02-21 11:13 AM
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I might have to try it and see if it works. They have a corn free formula
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sodapop
Reg. Feb 2005
Posted 2015-02-22 2:17 PM
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Β I see Total Equine Feeds mentioned as a clinic sponsor on Charmayne James' website. Is she feeding this feed to her horses or still using the popped milo she had fed for years? I know Scamper Feed is no longer available, but she had her own personal feed made for years before she launched Scamper Feed. I also just saw her featured for a split second in the Total Equine Feed ad on RFDTV......unless I'm getting the feeds mixed up because of similar names or something.

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Iwish
Reg. Oct 2010
Posted 2015-02-22 9:18 PM
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Yes, she feeds total equine now. There is a video of her talking about it on total equines website.
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mollibtexan
Reg. Jan 2007
Posted 2015-02-22 11:02 PM
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I do not like it and neither do the horses
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GLP
Reg. Oct 2013
Posted 2015-02-22 11:11 PM
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Took the to line right off my horse and it has taken a long time to correct it. The young horses looked good, but I wasn't riding them.
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hoofs_in_motion
Reg. Apr 2011
Posted 2015-02-23 8:02 AM
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Fun2Run - 2015-02-18 10:27 PM Look at the ingredients - it's 20% fiber and it's first ingredient is alfalfa hay.  



Why not just feed alfalfa hay and a vitamin mineral tub?  I'm sure it would be a lot cheaper. 



Sorry-I just see it as an expensive gimmick. 

I agree. I've heard lots of stories about it not keeping weight on a horse, and actually made them look worse.

You'll see better results with the alfalfa hay 
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Mainer-racer
Reg. Oct 2004
Posted 2015-02-23 8:22 AM
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We fed it here for about 6 months. Horse's loved the taste and I was glad alfaffa was the first ingrediant.  NSC is 39% which really got me worried as I wanted under 20%.  As for ulcers - I switched to TE in April - in late July  one horse dx with grade 3 ulcers first time ever. Didn't work for my horses - love that it is extruded feed. Now on RG.
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wimpyb
Reg. Dec 2003
Posted 2015-02-23 9:45 AM
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This colt has been on it since he was 4 mths. old and he's now going on 2 yo. No problems at all and I think he looks pretty good. Here's a little rundown of his growth from 4 mths. and just in Jan this year. We do have good hay and pasture for the summer months.

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Iwish
Reg. Oct 2010
Posted 2015-02-23 10:33 AM
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Good looking colt WimpyB!
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rachellyn80
Reg. Jan 2004
Posted 2015-02-23 10:49 AM
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wimpyb - 2015-02-23 9:45 AM This colt has been on it since he was 4 mths. old and he's now going on 2 yo. No problems at all and I think he looks pretty good. Here's a little rundown of his growth from 4 mths. and just in Jan this year. We do have good hay and pasture for the summer months.

Very nice!!
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teehaha
Reg. Dec 2003
Posted 2015-02-23 12:04 PM
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I'm not into supplements in general and we feed good quality grass/alf hay.  We did start feeding Total Equine early last spring to Teehaha who is 31 or 32  this year and the 5 babies and have to say I'm very pleased with the results.  Teehaha is rolly polly fat on her TE and beet pulp and whatever hay she can gum down and the babies look great.  No raving maniacs and can't think of anything negative to say about it.   Nice looking colt Wimpy
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wimpyb
Reg. Dec 2003
Posted 2015-02-23 3:34 PM
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teehaha - 2015-02-23 1:04 PM

I'm not into supplements in general and weΒ feed good quality grass/alf hay.Β Β We didΒ start feeding Total Equine early last spring to Teehaha who is 31 or 32Β Β this year and the 5Β babies and have to say I'm very pleased with the results.Β  Teehaha is rolly polly fat on her TE and beet pulp and whatever hay she can gum down and the babies look great.Β  No raving maniacs and can't think of anything negative to say about it.Β Β  Nice looking colt Wimpy

Thanks, Meg! I do think Slim did himself good with this boy! So happy with him!

My mare gets TE, too and she's done great with it. She took about 2 days to start eating it and now does great! Hope to get her settled to another Tres Seis stud this year! :)
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Iwish
Reg. Oct 2010
Posted 2015-02-23 4:21 PM
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So it seems like the general consensus with TE is that you just have to try it for yourself and see if it works and either join the "I love it club" or the "I hate it club"
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hoofs_in_motion
Reg. Apr 2011
Posted 2015-02-23 4:40 PM
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wimpyb - 2015-02-23 9:45 AM This colt has been on it since he was 4 mths. old and he's now going on 2 yo. No problems at all and I think he looks pretty good. Here's a little rundown of his growth from 4 mths. and just in Jan this year. We do have good hay and pasture for the summer months.

beautiful colt wimpy 
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Fairweather
Reg. Jan 2004
Posted 2015-02-23 4:45 PM
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Iwish - 2015-02-23 4:21 PM So it seems like the general consensus with TE is that you just have to try it for yourself and see if it works and either join the "I love it club" or the "I hate it club"

 Pretty much. 

Nice colt! The horse that I have it on was started on it as an extremely small and scrawny yearly - he looked stunted he was so small. He's pushing 16 hands and easy 1300 pounds. He's huge! 
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