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Location: Willows, CA | A store charging $53 is not a supply issue. It is a store issue. It is not legal for us to tell them what to sell Renew Gold for. If the store thinks you will pay it, they will charge it. We charge the same price to every distributor we sell to. This is a good reason to encourage Tractor Supply to carry it. Their standard pricing can bring feed stores more into line. The Waco TX warehouse serves 250 Tractor Supply stores in TX, OK, NM, LA, so any of those TSC stores can get it. The Waverly warehouse serves all the Western States. |
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Location: WYOMING | I have talked to store managers, web managers and left messages on FB for TSC in an effort to carry RG. No luck. I have friends trying to do the same with their TSC. No luck. Call it a store or supply issue, if you have very willing customers who want the product but can not get it or cannot get it at at a reasonible price... its an issue for both of us. |
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Location: Willows, CA | Yes, Tractor Supply is a super slow mover in adding distribution areas. They have five, and we are now in two. Every addition requires a committe to approve and put in place. This can be frustrating for a company to deal with. There is simply nothing we can do to move them faster from our side, but they do notice when you ask. Some independent stores resist because they see Renew Gold cutting their historic grain sales by a big amount. They don't consider what they save in space, damage, and returned bad grain based feed. Others embrace the advances that we have made and see their sales grow accordingly. It just depends on how professional your feed store is. There are very few stores in the country that do not have access to RG today. If you have a local store that you feel is holding you up, call and we will work to find or set up another store in your area that will serve your needs better. We are horse people ourselves and understand the need for customer service. |
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Location: Got Lobsta? | That is my issue up here. TS I can't get it from, they were very nice but said not enough customers and its up to me to find more. My local feed store gets it from a distributor (Bradley Caldwell) who he says charges him $45.00 a bag to him and in turn he sells it to me for $50.00. I called another feed dealer in town, he was going to charge me $53 - he said its the distributor. For us its Bradley Caldwell and its just plain wrong, but I will pay it. I'm hoping when I go to shows out of state I can pick some up cheaper and load up as it has a 1 year shelf life. The changes I've seen in my horses are worth it. |
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| I started feeding it 3 weeks ago. LOVE IT! I am on good terms with the manager of the TSC closest to me. I called and gave her the SKU number and she ordered me 4 bags. My horses are looking good and more importantly, feeling good. |
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Location: Back in MT BABY!!! | 3canstorun - 2015-02-22 2:51 PM My TSC said he can't even order it. Jeffers had to for $34 so I got it from there and also got a day trip with husband. So not bad for me.
My TSC gave me this run around for a while as well. They can order it...they just don't want to.
It took me over 6 weeks (with me and the manna pro rep working on them) to get my store to order it but they did. |
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Location: Not where I should be... | I have been super duper happy with my local TSC. I called to have them order more for me this morning, and they said they figured I would be ordering soon and already had it in the store for me. Kudos to the Siloam Springs, AR store!!
I think the whole TSC deal is just how customer friendly the manager wants to be... as long as they get stock from the 2 warehouses that carry it. I initially called a closer TSC and they wanted me to come down in person to tell them I wanted it ordered, no thanks. |
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| rodeodreamin - 2015-02-23 11:47 AM
I have been super duper happy with my local TSC. I called to have them order more for me this morning, and they said they figured I would be ordering soon and already had it in the store for me. Kudos to the Siloam Springs, AR store!!
I think the whole TSC deal is just how customer friendly the manager wants to be... as long as they get stock from the 2 warehouses that carry it. I initially called a closer TSC and they wanted me to come down in person to tell them I wanted it ordered, no thanks.
My guess is they have people who ordered something and never come to get it. I can see their point. Especially if its a product that doesn't sell a lot of volume, like RG. |
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Location: Texas | What is the texture of it?
I have a old mare that is 33 yrs old, and when I changed her feed last year I put them on TC, but did look into RG and just couldn't decide. Is it great for these older ones too? She isn't able to eat any hay or much grass, due to teeth. |
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Location: Willows, CA | Renew Gold is a very soft pellet. It needs to go to a meal form in the mouth to function properly. To do this it is intentionally made as soft as possible. A horse without good teeth can still eat it with no issues. |
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| Any word on when it will be available for Canada?  |
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| winwillows - 2015-02-23 12:44 PM
Renew Gold is a very soft pellet. It needs to go to a meal form in the mouth to function properly. To do this it is intentionally made as soft as possible. A horse without good teeth can still eat it with no issues.
I pour a little hot water on it when I feed it and my horses love the soupy texture. |
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| My local TSC is ordering it. |
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Location: Buffalo, Wyoming | What are the feeding recommendations? Going to see if I can get any stores close to me to start ordering. |
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Location: Willows, CA | UTAHCANCHASER - 2015-02-23 3:54 PM
What are the feeding recommendations? Going to see if I can get any stores close to me to start ordering.
I have written before about our half pound rule. It goes like this. One half pound of Renew Gold per job the horse does. Living is a job. Growing is a job. Being ridden is a job. Weight gain is a job. High stress from extreme hauling can be a job. An example of this would be a three year old in training would be doing three jobs, living, growing and being ridden, and would eat 1 1/2 pounds per day. On the other hand, a mature horse that is being ridden would do two jobs, living , being ridden, and would eat one pound per day. If that same mature horse needed to add weight it would eat 1 1/2 pounds per day until it was at the desired weight, then that weight gain job would go away and so would the extra 1/2 pound. This is based on having good quality hay or pasture, good parasite control, and up to date dental care. The teeth issue is often the one overlooked, as we are relying on much more complete digestion of the roughage part of the diet in the hind gut, and it is important that the horse can comfortably chew that roughage as completely as possible before it swallows it. Also, if the hay is too poor, and additional feed is needed because of that, do not feed more than two pounds of any concentrate feed, including Renew Gold at any one feeding. Provide fresh water and salt. In general, additional Vit/Min supplementation is not necessary unless you have a regional shortage of a specific mineral (like selenium in the Pacific North West). We typically do not recommend a daily probiotic, hoof conditioners, coat conditioners or other additional supplements, though if you are in love with any of that there is not a conflict with them. Follow this guideline and call if you have any questions. Simple as that. |
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| How many cups of renew gold equals 1 1/2 lbs? |
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| readytorodeo - 2015-02-23 4:39 PM
How many cups of renew gold equals 1 1/2 lbs?
I was wondering the same thing. I have just switched to it (Friday), but until I can get to walmart and get a scale to weigh it, all I have to go off of is a purina scoop that shows one lb....although I did take a can of peas out and try to compare weights...(don't laugh) |
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Location: Willows, CA | readytorodeo - 2015-02-23 4:39 PM
How many cups of renew gold equals 1 1/2 lbs?
A little over 5 kitchen measuring cups would equal 1 1/2 pounds/
Edited by winwillows 2015-02-23 4:47 PM
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Location: Buffalo, Wyoming | winwillows - 2015-02-23 3:30 PM UTAHCANCHASER - 2015-02-23 3:54 PM What are the feeding recommendations? Going to see if I can get any stores close to me to start ordering. I have written before about our half pound rule. It goes like this. One half pound of Renew Gold per job the horse does. Living is a job. Growing is a job. Being ridden is a job. Weight gain is a job. High stress from extreme hauling can be a job. An example of this would be a three year old in training would be doing three jobs, living, growing and being ridden, and would eat 1 1/2 pounds per day. On the other hand, a mature horse that is being ridden would do two jobs, living , being ridden, and would eat one pound per day. If that same mature horse needed to add weight it would eat 1 1/2 pounds per day until it was at the desired weight, then that weight gain job would go away and so would the extra 1/2 pound. This is based on having good quality hay or pasture, good parasite control, and up to date dental care. The teeth issue is often the one overlooked, as we are relying on much more complete digestion of the roughage part of the diet in the hind gut, and it is important that the horse can comfortably chew that roughage as completely as possible before it swallows it. Also, if the hay is too poor, and additional feed is needed because of that, do not feed more than two pounds of any concentrate feed, including Renew Gold at any one feeding. Provide fresh water and salt. In general, additional Vit/Min supplementation is not necessary unless you have a regional shortage of a specific mineral (like selenium in the Pacific North West ). We typically do not recommend a daily probiotic, hoof conditioners, coat conditioners or other additional supplements, though if you are in love with any of that there is not a conflict with them. Follow this guideline and call if you have any questions. Simple as that.
Thank you so much! I am hoping I can get it ordered locally where we are now. |
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Location: North Dakota | scamper - 2015-02-23 2:34 PM What is the texture of it?
I have a old mare that is 33 yrs old, and when I changed her feed last year I put them on TC, but did look into RG and just couldn't decide. Is it great for these older ones too? She isn't able to eat any hay or much grass, due to teeth.
It is a soft, small pellet. Very easy to chew (and easy to soften even more with water if you need to). I tasted it... |
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