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Location: MD | as a rule, i wait till memorial day weekend. Of course I will go earlier or later depending on weather. I like to make sure it's constantly 50+ through the night. Mine are shedding too, eek spring! |
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Rad Dork
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Location: Oklahoma | sorrel horse ranch - 2015-03-04 9:27 AM Regarding the fly sheets I use the Amigo Fly Buster sheet from Dover catalogue. It covers from their ears to their tip of their tail. My horses never faded. Just wanted to say I love the looks of your boy be he brown or black.
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Location: Oklahoma | Fairweather - 2015-03-03 7:42 PM I'll usually wait until it's staying in the 50-60's at least some during the day. It depends on too though the shape of my pasture. If my pasture weathered good, I'll wait until 60-70's. It usually winds up being about this time every year or mid-March. This year, I'm waiting a little later because we just had zero temps last week! Here's a pic of my brown (registered) horse...
I don't think the picture worked. Curious to see your horse. Mine's registered Brown as well, but I like to tell myself differently.  If get gets a scrape or something on his belly the hair grows back jet black. Would a brown still do that? |
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Location: Kansas | what about a UV protected fly sheet? |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | Longneck - 2015-03-04 10:32 AM Fairweather - 2015-03-03 7:42 PM I'll usually wait until it's staying in the 50-60's at least some during the day. It depends on too though the shape of my pasture. If my pasture weathered good, I'll wait until 60-70's. It usually winds up being about this time every year or mid-March. This year, I'm waiting a little later because we just had zero temps last week! Here's a pic of my brown (registered) horse... I don't think the picture worked. Curious to see your horse. Mine's registered Brown as well, but I like to tell myself differently. If get gets a scrape or something on his belly the hair grows back jet black. Would a brown still do that?
Mine does, gets a scrape any where on his body and the hair comes back dark, right now he's shedding a little and his hair is really dark but as time gos by it will lighting up.  |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | Let me see if I can find a picture of Melvin, 
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Location: Oklahoma | Southtxponygirl - 2015-03-04 10:38 AM Longneck - 2015-03-04 10:32 AM Fairweather - 2015-03-03 7:42 PM I'll usually wait until it's staying in the 50-60's at least some during the day. It depends on too though the shape of my pasture. If my pasture weathered good, I'll wait until 60-70's. It usually winds up being about this time every year or mid-March. This year, I'm waiting a little later because we just had zero temps last week! Here's a pic of my brown (registered) horse... I don't think the picture worked. Curious to see your horse. Mine's registered Brown as well, but I like to tell myself differently. If get gets a scrape or something on his belly the hair grows back jet black. Would a brown still do that?
Sorry, Roxie, but you're just full of bad news for me!!!! |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | Longneck - 2015-03-04 10:42 AM Southtxponygirl - 2015-03-04 10:38 AM Longneck - 2015-03-04 10:32 AM Fairweather - 2015-03-03 7:42 PM I'll usually wait until it's staying in the 50-60's at least some during the day. It depends on too though the shape of my pasture. If my pasture weathered good, I'll wait until 60-70's. It usually winds up being about this time every year or mid-March. This year, I'm waiting a little later because we just had zero temps last week! Here's a pic of my brown (registered) horse... I don't think the picture worked. Curious to see your horse. Mine's registered Brown as well, but I like to tell myself differently. If get gets a scrape or something on his belly the hair grows back jet black. Would a brown still do that?
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | On Mel you can see the brown in his flanks, legs and face but his body can get dark, but his is a brown. |
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| My boy is considered brown but IMO he is sooty buckskin, h never gets darker then a chocolate brown and 1/4 of his body is always light buckskin, nose, flank, belly, face.
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| IowaCanChaser - 2015-03-04 12:21 PM
My boy is considered brown but IMO he is sooty buckskin, h never gets darker then a chocolate brown and 1/4 of his body is always light buckskin, nose, flank, belly, face.
Summer and Winter, he's brown isn't he? |
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Location: Oklahoma | Southtxponygirl - 2015-03-04 10:42 AM Let me see if I can find a picture of Melvin,
Hum.. this is what my guy looks somewhat like in the summer... I'm going to dig for more pictures!! |
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Location: Gainesville, TX | Genetically there really isn't such a thing as what the AQHA calls a 'brown'. You may have a smoky black (who is a real black but has burnt looking hair) or you may have a dark buckskin or bay. A DNA test is the only way to see what you have. Either way, feeding paprika before they shed off (2 tbsp a day) and keeping them up in the day (or letting out only in a fly sheet) will keep them dark. |
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Location: Oklahoma | IowaCanChaser - 2015-03-04 12:21 PM My boy is considered brown but IMO he is sooty buckskin, h never gets darker then a chocolate brown and 1/4 of his body is always light buckskin, nose, flank, belly, face.
Very handsome guy!!!! |
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Location: Oklahoma | oija - 2015-03-04 12:41 PM Genetically there really isn't such a thing as what the AQHA calls a 'brown'. You may have a smoky black (who is a real black but has burnt looking hair) or you may have a dark buckskin or bay. A DNA test is the only way to see what you have. Either way, feeding paprika before they shed off (2 tbsp a day) and keeping them up in the day (or letting out only in a fly sheet) will keep them dark.
Is the paprika safe to feed?
I remember reading some article about a supplement that was banned from some organization because it makes the horse not feel pain.. I think it was some kind of pepper. |
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Location: Gainesville, TX | Longneck - 2015-03-04 12:46 PM
oija - 2015-03-04 12:41 PM Genetically there really isn't such a thing as what the AQHA calls a 'brown'. You may have a smoky black (who is a real black but has burnt looking hair) or you may have a dark buckskin or bay. A DNA test is the only way to see what you have. Either way, feeding paprika before they shed off (2 tbsp a day) and keeping them up in the day (or letting out only in a fly sheet) will keep them dark.
Is the paprika safe to feed?
I remember reading some article about a supplement that was banned from some organization because it makes the horse not feel pain.. I think it was some kind of pepper.
Paprika has capsacin in it. It does not have enough to block pain. In larger doses, capsacin has analgesic activity, like they use in Ben Gay. If you are going to show, don't feed it or stop feeding it a few days ahead so its not in their system. If you are just barrel racing (not WPRA) it should be fine. Black as Knight's main ingredient is paprika. Again, there's not enough to do anything but enough to show up on some tests. |
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| Longneck - 2015-03-04 12:41 PM
IowaCanChaser - 2015-03-04 12:21 PM My boy is considered brown but IMO he is sooty buckskin, h never gets darker then a chocolate brown and 1/4 of his body is always light buckskin, nose, flank, belly, face.
Very handsome guy!!!!
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| oija - 2015-03-04 12:41 PM
Genetically there really isn't such a thing as what the AQHA calls a 'brown'. You may have a smoky black (who is a real black but has burnt looking hair) or you may have a dark buckskin or bay. A DNA test is the only way to see what you have. Either way, feeding paprika before they shed off (2 tbsp a day) and keeping them up in the day (or letting out only in a fly sheet) will keep them dark.
His AQHA papers say "Brown"  |
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Rad Dork
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Location: Oklahoma |  This (above) was taken end of September. Switched him to Renew Gold end of August and he shed and turned this color, but apparently that's when he also started to grow his winter coat.
This (below) was taken in July... probably the most damaging picture of my "wanting a black horse" case 
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Rad Dork
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Location: Oklahoma | oija - 2015-03-04 12:53 PM Longneck - 2015-03-04 12:46 PM oija - 2015-03-04 12:41 PM Genetically there really isn't such a thing as what the AQHA calls a 'brown'. You may have a smoky black (who is a real black but has burnt looking hair) or you may have a dark buckskin or bay. A DNA test is the only way to see what you have. Either way, feeding paprika before they shed off (2 tbsp a day) and keeping them up in the day (or letting out only in a fly sheet) will keep them dark. Is the paprika safe to feed?
I remember reading some article about a supplement that was banned from some organization because it makes the horse not feel pain.. I think it was some kind of pepper. Paprika has capsacin in it. It does not have enough to block pain. In larger doses, capsacin has analgesic activity, like they use in Ben Gay. If you are going to show, don't feed it or stop feeding it a few days ahead so its not in their system. If you are just barrel racing (not WPRA ) it should be fine. Black as Knight's main ingredient is paprika. Again, there's not enough to do anything but enough to show up on some tests.
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