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Location: Beggs, OK | Gunner11 - 2015-03-11 10:30 AM rachellyn80 - 2015-03-11 10:20 AM Gunner11 - 2015-03-11 8:56 AM If you want to formula feed, go for it! There have been lots of studies done showing breastfeeding is not any more beneficial than formula. The study that sticks out the most to me is where they examined families where one child was breastfed and the other formula fed. They found no differences in development, mental function, or health. Not every woman is able to breastfeed, and I think it's unfortunate that those who choose to formula feed are made to feel guilty for their choice. You do what's right for you and your family, not what society tells you to do  There's more to a baby's health than what they are fed: "researchers have consistently found large socioeconomic and racial disparities in breast-feeding rates. A C.D.C. survey in 2008 found that 75 percent of white infants and 59 percent of black infants were ever breast-fed, and in 2013, the agency reported that 47 percent of white babies but only 30 percent of black babies were still being breast-fed at 6 months. Compared with bottle-fed infants, breast-fed babies are more likely to be born into families with higher incomes, have parents with higher educational attainments, and live in safer neighborhoods with easier access to health care services."
I agree completely. Breast milk is only as healthy as the mothers diet. But, all things being equal....Breast milk is best for infants. |
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| I know they do say to much cleanliness can have effects on the immune system. Years back I read an article that come right from bcbs that said kids growing up right around animals were less likely to get sick. I am a firm believer of that... Thanks for the Pinterest info. |
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Location: Beggs, OK | Lol! There's not telling how much arena dirt and horse hair my kids have ingested! They love it outside. We have a Radio Flyer wagon that has seat belts and a canopy that they ride around in. I can park them in the barn while we are cleaning stalls or saddling and they play with toys and watch. Babies are happier outside! |
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Location: N Texas | sonnyspistol - 2015-03-11 10:47 AM
I know they do say to much cleanliness can have effects on the immune system. Years back I read an article that come right from bcbs that said kids growing up right around animals were less likely to get sick. I am a firm believer of that... Thanks for the Pinterest info.
Yep! Parents obsessed with bathing their kids in anti-bacterial cleaner every time they so much as think about touching something are really doing their kids a disservice. Their bodies can't build up immunity to germs if they live in a sterile world. |
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Location: 100 miles from Nowhere, AR | Gunner11 - 2015-03-11 11:03 AM sonnyspistol - 2015-03-11 10:47 AM I know they do say to much cleanliness can have effects on the immune system. Years back I read an article that come right from bcbs that said kids growing up right around animals were less likely to get sick. I am a firm believer of that... Thanks for the Pinterest info. Yep! Parents obsessed with bathing their kids in anti-bacterial cleaner every time they so much as think about touching something are really doing their kids a disservice. Their bodies can't build up immunity to germs if they live in a sterile world.
My mom breast fed us and the dr told her to wash her nips every time before she fed us because people have bacteria all over them. Well, duh, that's part of the advantage. I'm glad that wasn't a thing by the time I had kids...would have been one more thing for me to feel guilty about not doing correctly. LOL |
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| It's a personal choice. I think it's a waste of time for people trying to argue it. And don't tell me a baby is less loved or more detached if they are formula fed or not as smart and so on. |
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Location: Texas | Gunner11 - 2015-03-11 11:03 AM sonnyspistol - 2015-03-11 10:47 AM I know they do say to much cleanliness can have effects on the immune system. Years back I read an article that come right from bcbs that said kids growing up right around animals were less likely to get sick. I am a firm believer of that... Thanks for the Pinterest info. Yep! Parents obsessed with bathing their kids in anti-bacterial cleaner every time they so much as think about touching something are really doing their kids a disservice. Their bodies can't build up immunity to germs if they live in a sterile world.
That was my husband, he would have put her in a bubble if he could.
Our daughter is his first child and my second. So we were not on the same page at all. Of course when they are tiny little things you are more careful but once she got a little older, if she dropped her pacifier on the floor and picked it back up to put it in her mouth my husband would about kill himself to try to take it to clean it lol. He is coming around now, but still sometimes I just have to tell him. "She will be fine, kids get dirty. That is what they do... now grab her because she is trying to eat dog food." lol |
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| When our daughter was young we had a puppy our puppy left everything alme of hers except her pascifier he would run around the house with it in his mouth and she would grab it from him and plop it in her mouth.. She loved that thing as much as he did. She's almost 9 and gets sick about once a year and was formula fed. |
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Location: The best kept secret in TX | I plan on breast feeding baby and pumping. My mother had a problem breast feeding me and my sibling's tho so I hope I don't have any problems.
My older brother was allergic to everything but fresh goat milk. I'm talking FRESH. No canned milk. Craziest thing ever...
I had acid reflux so bad I could only have formula made special for acid reflux prone babies.
My mom didn't produce milk at all with my sister (she was 43 when she had her)
And my littlest brother had a latch issue and colic so bad his pediatrician put him on formula for colic. (weird thing is at 47 almost 48 my mom started producing milk again for my brother when he was born. Even tho he couldn't have any...)  |
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| To the op, if you are even thinking of breast feeding get a lactation consultant right from the beginning, they will assist you on getting a program that works for you.
I would find one now so you can interview them to make sure your personalities match and you feel comfortable with her/him.
If you want breast milk, also look at breast milk banks, and there are Facebook/websites that milk share (in canada this is not legal, but so many moms do it, make sure you check out the individual you get from to ensure they have no communicable diseases.
Formula, is generally harder on preterm babies as their stomachs are not fully developed, research is suggesting these individuals may be more prone to constipation and gi issues later on in life.
Formula has also been linked to gi issues (crohns/colitis/ibs/etc) in adults but not definitely proven
As for formula, goodstart, nestle, etc if you sign up on their website they generally will send you coupons and free product, I suggest start filling out now. It is free so take advantage, I have always told moms to have a can/bottles in the house even if breast feeding as others have said some moms just can't breast feed this will generally show at days 4-7.
As for formula if you go this route I know in canada all formula has to meet good and drug guidelines so the cheapest wallmart brand has the same nutrients as goodstart. Generally the difference is the additives ie corn syrup is added to certain brands (prevents constipation) so you don't have to buy the most expensive.
Also the formula that advertises omega fortified, these have no scientific proof to prove benefit so don't pay more for this.
You can message me if you want any more info and I can try to help you
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Location: North Dakota | If you listen to anyone on this topic, listen to me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I have four!!! I breast fed and bottle fed all of them!!! I would brest feed one feeding and the next feeding bottle feed! They were and are all extremely healthy because of this!!!!!!!!!! Breast feeding passes immunity and bottle feeding gives the maximum nutrition! breast milk varies in nutrition, but formula is always the same. It is the best experience to breast feed, you bond and the baby gets an ammunity, if you add breast milk in to the mix you get maximum vitamins and nutrients!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! With all my children I would breast feed one meal and bottle the next!!! It allows the baby to be willing to take not only the breast but also a bottle!!!!!!!!!!! THE FIRST TWO DAYS THE BABY IS ALIVE, OR BORN BREAST FEED ONLY TO GET THE IMMUNITY, BUT AFTER TWO DAYS START FEEDING FORMULA ALONG WITH BREAST MILK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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| Thanks for the advice I like the idea and it makes a lot of sense especially with twins. Thank you |
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Location: Ellensburg, Washington | I breastfed my son until he was almost two and is one of the healthiest almost 3 year olds in his daycare. I am a firm believer that it is due to breastfeeding. I agree about finding a lactation consultant or a support group. If you are worried about your supply, buy the herb Fenugreek (found in healthfood stores) and it will increase your production. It will usually cause you to have a maple syrup smell but it definately helps with supply. It is hard work and can be painful if the baby doesn't get a good latch but I loved the "portability". Kid hungry at a race, sit down at the trailer, nurse and be on your way. The decompressing it allowed for me after a busy day at work is something else I wouldn't have traded. Good luck! |
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| I'm 30 weeks and I'm so ready for this pregnancy to be over, LOL! I breastfed my first for 6 weeks and I just couldn't produce much milk. My son and I both got frustrated and I threw in the towel and started just feeding formula after that. He is 5 now and has always been very healthy and hardly ever sick. I plan to breastfeed with this one as long as I can but if I have to feed formula again, I'm okay with that :) |
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Location: In Husker Land | Our first daughter was in the nicu for the first week, three days of that not getting fed. This was due to aspiration of fluid in birth, and really fast respiration issues, so they didn't want her fed by bottle till her respiration issues were better. She was on formula in the nicu, so we kept her on it. I tried pumping, but she ended up she needed soy formula, so gave up. Honestly, I would do this all over again. I am pregnant right now..17 weeks along and planning on pumping and formula. my husband likes to help bottle feed too because he can bond too then. and I like that because it can give you a break too! Worked well for the first so planning on this got the 2nd one! |
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Location: Texas | hckbarrelracer - 2015-03-11 10:30 PM Our first daughter was in the nicu for the first week, three days of that not getting fed. This was due to aspiration of fluid in birth, and really fast respiration issues, so they didn't want her fed by bottle till her respiration issues were better. She was on formula in the nicu, so we kept her on it. I tried pumping, but she ended up she needed soy formula, so gave up. Honestly, I would do this all over again. I am pregnant right now..17 weeks along and planning on pumping and formula. my husband likes to help bottle feed too because he can bond too then. and I like that because it can give you a break too! Worked well for the first so planning on this got the 2nd one!
My daughter would not breast feed. She absolutely refused and it. I would try to breast feed, then I would end up pumping so I gave up. I pumped the rest of the time and it turned out I loved it so much more then I thought. My husband could feed her but she was still getting breast milk. Best of both worlds I thought lol. We had our bonding time, but it just wasn't to breast feed. |
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Location: Kansas | I tried to breastfeed, and pump.....but it wasn't working out for me. My daughter was formula fed, she had ended up with horrible acid reflux that caused her to puke up blood one day after feeding. I rushed her to the hospital, and was told to put her on a soy formula. Since then, she has been healthy. Hardly sick, I switched her to whole milk at a year old...and she drinks the heck out of it lol. |
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Location: dead end road | I nurses my son 10 years ago... And my daughter is 18 months I nursed her until she was 8 months old and my husband wet out of state to work. My son and stepson are 10 and I swotched her to formula due to them being busy with sports, me working full time and being home with 3 kids by myself. We have recently found out we are expecting a BIG surprise in September and I'm really struggling with whether or not im going to nurse. My husband is a pipeline welder and works out of state most of the time. I work full time. This baby is due on our daughters 2'nd birthday. Our boys are 11 and play sports year round and I just don't know if I can nurse this baby. I feel extremely guilty already by my decision but I also have to have my sanity. i am not a woman that loses weight nursing and both my children had their first set of tubes due to chronic ear infections by the time they were 10 months old. I will say Delaney really chunked up and seemed to grow once I put her on formula. She was always in the 20-30% on weight but once I started her on formula she jumped to the 80-90%. It's def a personal choice and one I think only you can make. People that say breast feeding is easy are liars. It's one of the hardest things you will ever do. It's worthit but it's hard! |
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| rachellyn80 - 2015-03-11 10:20 AM
Gunner11 - 2015-03-11 8:56 AM If you want to formula feed, go for it! There have been lots of studies done showing breastfeeding is not any more beneficial than formula. The study that sticks out the most to me is where they examined families where one child was breastfed and the other formula fed. They found no differences in development, mental function, or health. Not every woman is able to breastfeed, and I think it's unfortunate that those who choose to formula feed are made to feel guilty for their choice. You do what's right for you and your family, not what society tells you to do
One other thing formula fed babies are more prone to is obesity, early childhood, into adulthood.
The rationale behind this is bottle feeding is easier, babies don't burn calories feeding via bottle versus breast, also babies are over fed via bottle.
Think of it as turkey dinner, you stuff yourself plumb full, after you are sleepy, bloated and need to undo the button on your pants. Babies cannot undo the pants, their stomach stretches each feeding causing more intake then a breast fed baby, which means more calories, and more fat deposited. |
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| Thank you all for the replies.. I haven't decided yet what I am going to do. I do know that the twin pregnacy is harder for me physically and mentally. So to breast feed if I can do it will be a challenge unless I do pump like other moms for others to help and bond with them as well. Formula feeding or alternating sounds like a great substatute.. Thank you okie for your honesty about being hard. I am sure it will be one of the hardest things that I would do to.. I have read a happy mom means happy babies! |
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