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FLITASTIC
Reg. Jun 2012
Posted 2015-03-18 1:50 PM
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FLITASTIC - 2015-03-17 9:15 PM Fecal to check for stomach or hind gut ulcers?

The fecal tests for stomach and hindgut.  I had 2 horses tested with that test.  One came back positive for both and the other was just hindgut.  I have both horses on Forco now and I just started THE with ulcer and joint top dress.  My gelding continued to have ulcer flare ups last year while traveling, so I'm really hoping THE works better for him. 

Thanks! DOes this test require a vet or can you send in samples yourself? I texted my vet about it.
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FLITASTIC
Reg. Jun 2012
Posted 2015-03-18 1:57 PM
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Just looked it up, its the "Succeed" kit that has to be purchased from vets
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AngieM1
Reg. Aug 2012
Posted 2015-03-18 2:21 PM
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I find that Formula 1 Noni Blue label paired with quality Alfalfa works great. I treated my mare for 3 months for ulcers, aggressively. She had hind ulcers.. which most of you probably know are very pesky to treat. I find that the combo of Noni and alf cubes are a great team for the ulcer riddled or ulcer prone horses.
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Posted 2015-03-18 3:23 PM
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FLITASTIC - 2015-03-18 1:57 PM Just looked it up, its the "Succeed" kit that has to be purchased from vets

Yes, thru the vet and yes it's made by succeed!  I got results same day.  The vet actually runs the test. 
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FLITASTIC
Reg. Jun 2012
Posted 2015-03-18 8:56 PM
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FLITASTIC - 2015-03-18 1:57 PM Just looked it up, its the "Succeed" kit that has to be purchased from vets

Yes, thru the vet and yes it's made by succeed!  I got results same day.  The vet actually runs the test. 

My vet just got back to me. She said she won't use the fecal test because it is very unreliable.

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mbcruel21
Reg. Jan 2004
Posted 2015-03-19 7:36 AM
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I think a good feed program is first and foremost, good vitamin and minerals along with easy to digest feed. Keeping the stomach from ever becoming empty so that the stomach acid in never sitting on an empty stomach. We are having good luck with Equisure as a good preventive and maintence supplement for our performance horses, along with a good feed program-which is going to vary dependingon what part of the us you live in.
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Murphy
Reg. Dec 2007
Posted 2015-03-19 8:26 AM
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Same topic, off question.... generic Gastrogard/Ulcergard... I know it's 3000 mg of Omeprazole, but where can you buy that?  
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FLITASTIC
Reg. Jun 2012
Posted 2015-03-19 8:37 AM
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Murphy - 2015-03-19 6:26 AM

Same topic, off question.... generic Gastrogard/Ulcergard... I know it's 3000 mg of Omeprazole, but where can you buy that?  

Ulcer Cure OTC from here is good and I have also used the Horse prerace omeprazole at 6.95 for a full 2.3G tube ( Just like ulcerguard). Ulcerguard around here is 30-40.00 PER TUBE ( 4 doses). Horse pre race is 6.95 for the same amount.
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gagrl
Reg. May 2005
Posted 2015-03-19 8:41 AM
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$60 for the gallon size last 1 horse up to 2 months. Use coupon code    cockk    for 10% off and free shipping! I keep all my riding horses on this as a preventative and weight. Helps with the nervous nellies too.

 
Ulser Shield

Ulser Shield begins to neutralize acid on contact.
A mucosal protector, Magnesium and Calcium form a barrier over the mucosal lining. Calcium Carbonate reduces the acidity of the stomach and helps promote proper digestion and nutrient absorption. Polydimenthylsiloxane, an anti-gas, helps reduce trapped air in mucous, which may be associated with equine ulsers.
If your horse displays poor appetite, mild to severe colic, poor condition, attitude changes and poor training performance, you may be seeing the early signs of an ulcer. Add Ulser Shield to your horses daily diet and early treatment may prevent the use of Gastro Guard. Ulser Shield is a marvelous maintenance for horses following a course of Gastro Guard.

INGREDIENTS:
Preservatives
Magnesium Oxide
Calcium Carbonate
Polydimethylsiloxane

New Size!
Available by the quart ($20.00), half gallon ($35.00) or gallon $60.00
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Murphy
Reg. Dec 2007
Posted 2015-03-19 8:45 AM
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FLITASTIC - 2015-03-19 9:37 AM
Murphy - 2015-03-19 6:26 AM Same topic, off question.... generic Gastrogard/Ulcergard... I know it's 3000 mg of Omeprazole, but where can you buy that?  
Ulcer Cure OTC from here is good and I have also used the Horse prerace omeprazole at 6.95 for a full 2.3G tube ( Just like ulcerguard). Ulcerguard around here is 30-40.00 PER TUBE ( 4 doses). Horse pre race is 6.95 for the same amount.

My vet wants me to start my mare on Gastrogard and it's $37 a tube for him... he wants me to get 7 tubes. There's no way I can afford that. 
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Reg. Oct 2004
Posted 2015-03-19 8:51 AM
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gagrl - 2015-03-19 9:41 AM $60 for the gallon size last 1 horse up to 2 months. Use coupon code    cockk    for 10% off and free shipping! I keep all my riding horses on this as a preventative and weight. Helps with the nervous nellies too.



 
Ulser Shield



Ulser Shield begins to neutralize acid on contact.

A mucosal protector, Magnesium and Calcium form a barrier over the mucosal lining. Calcium Carbonate reduces the acidity of the stomach and helps promote proper digestion and nutrient absorption. Polydimenthylsiloxane, an anti-gas, helps reduce trapped air in mucous, which may be associated with equine ulsers.

If your horse displays poor appetite, mild to severe colic, poor condition, attitude changes and poor training performance, you may be seeing the early signs of an ulcer. Add Ulser Shield to your horses daily diet and early treatment may prevent the use of Gastro Guard. Ulser Shield is a marvelous maintenance for horses following a course of Gastro Guard.



INGREDIENTS:

Preservatives

Magnesium Oxide

Calcium Carbonate

Polydimethylsiloxane


New Size!

Available by the quart ($20.00), half gallon ($35.00) or gallon $60.00

OMG I have been looking for this!! I used it on my horse at the World's when he completely went off feed. It was the first time he didn't give me a hard time  putting anything in his mouth. I used up the bottle, saw results in 1 day! I couldn't remember the name and have been searching. Thank you!! I'm sending you a PM

Also after my horse was scoped with ulcers - did 28 days of gastro guard and now on smart gut and Renew Gold. If you want to save money, you can also do the Smart Digest. Remember if you have them ship it to you in the packs your horse qualifies for $7500 colic surgery coverage.

 
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FLITASTIC
Reg. Jun 2012
Posted 2015-03-19 9:25 AM
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Murphy - 2015-03-19 6:45 AM

FLITASTIC - 2015-03-19 9:37 AM
Murphy - 2015-03-19 6:26 AM Same topic, off question.... generic Gastrogard/Ulcergard... I know it's 3000 mg of Omeprazole, but where can you buy that?  
Ulcer Cure OTC from here is good and I have also used the Horse prerace omeprazole at 6.95 for a full 2.3G tube ( Just like ulcerguard). Ulcerguard around here is 30-40.00 PER TUBE ( 4 doses). Horse pre race is 6.95 for the same amount.

My vet wants me to start my mare on Gastrogard and it's $37 a tube for him... he wants me to get 7 tubes. There's no way I can afford that. 

I would order from horse pre race then. You could get 7 tubes for about 50.00. Thats a huge savings.
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FLITASTIC
Reg. Jun 2012
Posted 2015-03-19 9:46 AM
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gagrl - 2015-03-19 6:41 AM

$60 for the gallon size last 1 horse up to 2 months. Use coupon code    cockk    for 10% off and free shipping! I keep all my riding horses on this as a preventative and weight. Helps with the nervous nellies too.

 
Ulser Shield

Ulser Shield begins to neutralize acid on contact.
A mucosal protector, Magnesium and Calcium form a barrier over the mucosal lining. Calcium Carbonate reduces the acidity of the stomach and helps promote proper digestion and nutrient absorption. Polydimenthylsiloxane, an anti-gas, helps reduce trapped air in mucous, which may be associated with equine ulsers.
If your horse displays poor appetite, mild to severe colic, poor condition, attitude changes and poor training performance, you may be seeing the early signs of an ulcer. Add Ulser Shield to your horses daily diet and early treatment may prevent the use of Gastro Guard. Ulser Shield is a marvelous maintenance for horses following a course of Gastro Guard.

INGREDIENTS:
Preservatives
Magnesium Oxide
Calcium Carbonate
Polydimethylsiloxane

New Size!
Available by the quart ($20.00), half gallon ($35.00) or gallon $60.00

I saw it can be used every day. Doesn't a horse need acids to break down food? WOuldnt the calcium and magnesium actually block nutrient absorption if used over a long period of time? I bet this product would be awesome to use on race day or for nervous horses when hauling. Anyone else use it every day?
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astreakinchic
Reg. Sep 2011
Posted 2015-03-19 9:53 AM
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http://absoluteequinesupplies-com.webs.com/apps/webstore/products?p...

Anyone ordered this brand of compounded omeprazole?
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FLITASTIC
Reg. Jun 2012
Posted 2015-03-19 10:12 AM
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astreakinchic - 2015-03-19 7:53 AM

http://absoluteequinesupplies-com.webs.com/apps/webstore/products?p...

Anyone ordered this brand of compounded omeprazole?

Great prices! Trying to see where the company is
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gagrl
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Posted 2015-03-19 10:16 AM
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FLITASTIC - 2015-03-19 10:46 AM

gagrl - 2015-03-19 6:41 AM

$60 for the gallon size last 1 horse up to 2 months. Use coupon code    cockk    for 10% off and free shipping! I keep all my riding horses on this as a preventative and weight. Helps with the nervous nellies too.

 
Ulser Shield

Ulser Shield begins to neutralize acid on contact.
A mucosal protector, Magnesium and Calcium form a barrier over the mucosal lining. Calcium Carbonate reduces the acidity of the stomach and helps promote proper digestion and nutrient absorption. Polydimenthylsiloxane, an anti-gas, helps reduce trapped air in mucous, which may be associated with equine ulsers.
If your horse displays poor appetite, mild to severe colic, poor condition, attitude changes and poor training performance, you may be seeing the early signs of an ulcer. Add Ulser Shield to your horses daily diet and early treatment may prevent the use of Gastro Guard. Ulser Shield is a marvelous maintenance for horses following a course of Gastro Guard.

INGREDIENTS:
Preservatives
Magnesium Oxide
Calcium Carbonate
Polydimethylsiloxane

New Size!
Available by the quart ($20.00), half gallon ($35.00) or gallon $60.00

I saw it can be used every day. Doesn't a horse need acids to break down food? WOuldnt the calcium and magnesium actually block nutrient absorption if used over a long period of time? I bet this product would be awesome to use on race day or for nervous horses when hauling. Anyone else use it every day?

 I use it everyday. Double dose race days or hauling. It creates a mucosa lining in the stomach to buffer acids
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astreakinchic
Reg. Sep 2011
Posted 2015-03-19 10:16 AM
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FLITASTIC - 2015-03-19 11:12 AM

astreakinchic - 2015-03-19 7:53 AM

http://absoluteequinesupplies-com.webs.com/apps/webstore/products?p...

Anyone ordered this brand of compounded omeprazole?

Great prices! Trying to see where the company is

Yes it is! They are based out of Michigan. The lady's Facebook page gives info about the lab it is compounded in and I reckon some vet's order from the lab as well. I'm probably gonna order some dose tubes for the summer its a few dollars cheaper than ordering the compounded brand from one of my vets.
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LMS
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Posted 2015-03-19 10:17 AM
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FLITASTIC - 2015-03-18 8:56 PM
merdth6 - 2015-03-18 1:23 PM
FLITASTIC - 2015-03-18 1:57 PM Just looked it up, its the "Succeed" kit that has to be purchased from vets
Yes, thru the vet and yes it's made by succeed!  I got results same day.  The vet actually runs the test. 
My vet just got back to me. She said she won't use the fecal test because it is very unreliable.

My vet (my cousin) is a very big skeptic about the fecal and after talking and convincing, I finally said, really just humor me and run the **** test-wouldn't you know it.....positive.  I do not know what test he ran for sure but the fecal tells you if there is blood in the stool.    Also, I'm being lazy how many milligrams of omeprazole does the ulcergard have in it?  Thought horseprerace was a little bit higher for the comparable milligrams. 
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FLITASTIC
Reg. Jun 2012
Posted 2015-03-19 10:25 AM
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astreakinchic - 2015-03-19 8:16 AM

FLITASTIC - 2015-03-19 11:12 AM

astreakinchic - 2015-03-19 7:53 AM

http://absoluteequinesupplies-com.webs.com/apps/webstore/products?p...

Anyone ordered this brand of compounded omeprazole?

Great prices! Trying to see where the company is

Yes it is! They are based out of Michigan. The lady's Facebook page gives info about the lab it is compounded in and I reckon some vet's order from the lab as well. I'm probably gonna order some dose tubes for the summer its a few dollars cheaper than ordering the compounded brand from one of my vets.

Its cheaper than the horse pre race stuff as well. Looks like a great option! I will probably order a jar of the powder as well!
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FLITASTIC
Reg. Jun 2012
Posted 2015-03-19 10:27 AM
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LMS - 2015-03-19 8:17 AM

FLITASTIC - 2015-03-18 8:56 PM
merdth6 - 2015-03-18 1:23 PM
FLITASTIC - 2015-03-18 1:57 PM Just looked it up, its the "Succeed" kit that has to be purchased from vets
Yes, thru the vet and yes it's made by succeed!  I got results same day.  The vet actually runs the test. 
My vet just got back to me. She said she won't use the fecal test because it is very unreliable.

My vet (my cousin) is a very big skeptic about the fecal and after talking and convincing, I finally said, really just humor me and run the **** test-wouldn't you know it.....positive.  I do not know what test he ran for sure but the fecal tells you if there is blood in the stool.    Also, I'm being lazy how many milligrams of omeprazole does the ulcergard have in it?  Thought horseprerace was a little bit higher for the comparable milligrams. 

Notice who makes the fecal test. Succeed. Look who produces one of the most expensive Ulcer prevent supplements on the market. Succeed.
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