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Location: DUMPING CATS AND PIGS IN TEXAS :) | JR_Horses - 2015-03-30 1:59 PM Had her a couple months have been turning her around. Which she can do in my bumper pull. Took my LQ this weekend. Got her off at the show after some coaxing got home last night and cant get her off.
After this, I'd seriously work on her backing a few minutes every day.....outside of the trailer. |
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| Funny thing is she will back for miles either on the ground or on her back she just will not back off a trailer. |
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Location: DUMPING CATS AND PIGS IN TEXAS :) | JR_Horses - 2015-03-30 2:04 PM Funny thing is she will back for miles either on the ground or on her back she just will not back off a trailer.
Perhaps, you should back her into the trailer next time....lol. |
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| If I ever get out of the dang thing that is probably what we will do in the future lol |
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Location: Texas | I would just leave her in the trailer until she wants to come out. They tend to cooperate a little more after 24hrs without eating or drinking. And you aren't making the trailer experience traumatic for her. Only thing worse than a horse that won't unload is a horse that won't load... JMO |
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Location: DUMPING CATS AND PIGS IN TEXAS :) | You should take some pictures for us......while you're waiting :) |
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Location: East Tennessee but who knows?! | Long term solution is to teach her to load properly. When they're taught how to go on the right way, they've gone on and off so many times in stages that they automatically learn to back off as a result.
Short term for now, I would put something solid under the back of the trailer so that she doesn't have to step down at all. Usually it's not backing up that scares them, it's the stepping off the end and not being able to tell where their feet are that scares them.
Trying to force one off can cause them to panic and not think and you can have a wreck in a heart beat. The calmer you can keep her, the better. I would try waiting it out. I have seen some horses wait as long as 2 days without feed -feed and hay were on the trailer - because they were truly that scared. Then it's time to figure something else out.
Another thought is if you have access to some ace or some kind of calming supplement to see if it will help. But I would only use force / scaring as an absolute last resort.. |
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Location: Eastern OH but my heart is in WV | Does she/he get nervous when they realize when they have to step down? If that is the case, I would try backing the trailer where the floor is even with the ground. I have seen horses that would back off if they did not have a big step down but forget it if they had to reach to step off.
I hope I explained that well enough.... |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | I never let my horses turn around in a trailer, that just teaches them a bad habit. Does your trailer have a ramp or is it just a step down? Poor horse is scared to death sounds like to me. Is this a slant load trailer? And is this the first time in this trailer? Yet full of questions here. |
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Location: North Dakota | JR_Horses - 2015-03-30 1:59 PM Had her a couple months have been turning her around. Which she can do in my bumper pull. Took my LQ this weekend. Got her off at the show after some coaxing got home last night and cant get her off.
Obviously do what you can to get her off the trailer now, since what's done is done and that's where she is at.
But since you didn't really prepare her to be successful in the LQ trailer, I would spend some time training her so she can back out of a trailer willing and safely.
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Location: DUMPING CATS AND PIGS IN TEXAS :) | Where do you live lol? If you're close enough, I'll swing by and get her off for you after work today. |
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Location: Where the pavement ends and the West begins Utah | Back your trailer up to a hill with a short to level slope and back her out of the trailer a few times this way until she has confidence in you. When there is a drop ask for a stop then slowly back on out. |
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A Somebody to Everybody
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | If the horse is still in the trailer, like some of the others have said find an area like a ditch or a little dirt hill that you can back up to and help the horse out. Is the horse backing up to the point of the step off and feels no ground then freezes up on you?
Edited by Southtxponygirl 2015-03-30 3:05 PM
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| Put a big bit in his month (outside the trailer) make him stay behind you turn around and if he's not backing up crisply just buy you turning around rip his face - do it over and over again until when you turn around he is running backwards - when he runs backwards as soon as you turn around - load him up with the big bit - when he's in the trainer turn around he should run out. |
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Location: DUMPING CATS AND PIGS IN TEXAS :) | fabulous2006 - 2015-03-30 3:51 PM Put a big bit in his month (outside the trailer) make him stay behind you turn around and if he's not backing up crisply just buy you turning around rip his face - do it over and over again until when you turn around he is running backwards - when he runs backwards as soon as you turn around - load him up with the big bit - when he's in the trainer turn around he should run out.
Am I understanding you to say, "rip his face with a big bit in his mouth?"
Ummmm, no, don't do that OP. |
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| Won't kill him - I spent 6 years turning a horse around because I couldn't get him to back out - a trainer I was working with at the time saw me unload him and fixed him in 5 minutes - if I had known it was gonna be that easy I would have done it 6 years earlier. Do what you want but if you get tired of trying to coax him out remember what I told you.
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Shipwrecked and Flat Out Zapped
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Location: DUMPING CATS AND PIGS IN TEXAS :) | fabulous2006 - 2015-03-30 4:02 PM Won't kill him - I spent 6 years turning a horse around because I couldn't get him to back out - a trainer I was working with at the time saw me unload him and fixed him in 5 minutes - if I had known it was gonna be that easy I would have done it 6 years earlier. Do what you want but if you get tired of trying to coax him out remember what I told you.
No, it won't kill her..... |
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Location: Texas | fabulous2006 - 2015-03-30 3:51 PM Put a big bit in his month (outside the trailer) make him stay behind you turn around and if he's not backing up crisply just buy you turning around rip his face - do it over and over again until when you turn around he is running backwards - when he runs backwards as soon as you turn around - load him up with the big bit - when he's in the trainer turn around he should run out.
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| fabulous2006 - 2015-03-30 3:51 PM
Put a big bit in his month (outside the trailer) make him stay behind you turn around and if he's not backing up crisply just buy you turning around rip his face - do it over and over again until when you turn around he is running backwards - when he runs backwards as soon as you turn around - load him up with the big bit - when he's in the trainer turn around he should run out.
That sounds like a fabulous2006 way to have a big wreck.
I typically don't want my horses running backwards for any reason.
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Location: 100 miles from Nowhere, AR | Does your trailer have drops on the butt wall? I had one that hated backing off my trailer with blocked axles because it was such a big step down, and didn't have enough room to turn around without collapsing the tack. I left her in the trailer one day to figure out how to get herself out...she stuck her head out the dropped butt window, swung her rear around and walked off with a smug look on her face. I love mares... |
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